# Anti-vaxxers are ignorant scumbags that kill children **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 1, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626 "2016-09-01T01:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 70
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1382 "2025-03-01T01:51:45Z")
Junior issued a statement today professing support for Texas’s response to the measles outbreak, including providing additional vaccines. He did not say anything about recommending the unvaccinated get the MMR as soon as possible, which is what will stop this outbreak and prevent future ones. Junior also says the CDC website has been updated to include guidance to physicians about administering vitamin A on an outpatient basis. That would make sense if the U.S. was a Third World country where vitamin A deficiency was common and giving it to kids would lessen measles’ severity. But that’s not the case. Junior is a king-sized jerk. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1383 "2025-03-01T01:52:53Z")
I thought at first you were talking about DJT Jr. Had to think a moment. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1384 "2025-03-01T01:55:16Z")
Vitamin A but no Ivermectin? I’m beginning to doubt Junior’s medical advice. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1385 "2025-03-01T05:21:11Z")
That’s a great idea! Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1386 "2025-03-01T05:22:13Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > I think everyone leaving that state should be in isolation for at least 60 days…and everyone entering that state with intent to stay should have their head examined. I have **only** ever been to Idaho for business reasons. You literally have to pay me to go. (But I did support a small office there long ago and had to visit a handful of times.) ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2025, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1387 "2025-03-01T05:25:06Z")
I did see a video a few days ago featuring DJT v. 2.0 hunting marmots, in either Kazakhstan or Mongolia, and at least he ate it instead of leaving it as a “trophy.” My point here is that marmots are known bubonic plague carriers. I can’t find it now. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2025, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1388 "2025-03-23T00:19:21Z")
> **[CDC Clone Site, Rife with False Vaccine Claims, Hosted by Group Previously...](https://infoepi.substack.com/p/cdc-clone-site-rife-with-false-vaccine)** > > A CDC clone site with false vaccine claims is hosted by an NGO once led by the current HHS Secretary. With CDC logos, real social media links, and a near-identical design, it may violate federal laws. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1389 "2025-03-26T13:52:44Z")
The Trump Administration clown car has disgorged another candidate to lead American health out of its dreadful, science-infused condition. [David Geier has been tapped by RFK Jr.](https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/david-geier-hired-to-study-vaccines-and-autism/) to head up an yet another study of whether vaccines cause autism. David (who was previously charged in Maryland with practicing medicine without a license) and his father Mark (who lost his medical license in a number of states) have been involved in operating a chain of clinics in which autistic boys were subject to chemical castration therapy with the drug Lupron. Apparently quite profitable, but [not science-based](https://tucson.com/news/national/article_a10cefb4-1503-5c6b-93c4-899b8de6171b.html). The father-son Geier team, which previously ran a, um, top-class kitchen laboratory out of their home for scientific purposes, has also had at least one research publication retracted. It’s hard to imagine picking anyone worse than David Geier to head up a a vaccine-autism study, as if another one was needed in the first place. It represents a massive thumb on the scales. Speaking of thumbs, it’s thumbs down to the Washington Post for referring to David Geier as a “vaccine skeptic”. He’s a full-on antivaxer. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1390 "2025-03-26T14:07:13Z")
I just got my MMR booster last week. Just in time. Tennessee has it’s first measles case. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1391 "2025-03-26T14:15:35Z")
Did your Doctor recommend the MMR Booster? I thought most people didn’t need one. _MMR = Mumps, Measles and Rubella_ German Measles . ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1392 "2025-03-26T15:28:59Z")
Do vaccines cause autism? Well the federal government is going to do another study and guess who is going to lead the study? **Vaccine skeptic hired to head federal study of immunizations and autism** > A vaccine skeptic who has long promoted false claims about the connection between immunizations and autism has been tapped by the federal government to conduct a critical study of possible links between the two, according to current and former federal health officials. > > The Department of Health and Human Services has hired David Geier to conduct the analysis, according to the officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of retaliation. Geier and his father, Mark Geier, [have published papers](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28595786/)claiming vaccines increase the risk of autism, a theory that has been studied for decades and scientifically debunked. > > David Geier was [disciplined](https://www.mbp.state.md.us/BPQAPP/orders/GeierOrder07.302.pdf)by Maryland regulators more than a decade ago for practicing medicine without a license. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/03/25/vaccine-skeptic-hhs-rfk-immunization-autism/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/03/25/vaccine-skeptic-hhs-rfk-immunization-autism/) Non-paywalled reprint: [https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/vaccine-skeptic-hired-to-head-federal-study-of-immunizations-and-autism/ar-AA1BEvp0](https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/vaccine-skeptic-hired-to-head-federal-study-of-immunizations-and-autism/ar-AA1BEvp0) ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1393 "2025-03-26T20:34:26Z")
We have a new study to see if vaccines cause autism, is there a study to see what causes echoes in threads? ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2025, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1394 "2025-03-26T21:28:45Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [David Geier has been tapped by RFK Jr.](https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/david-geier-hired-to-study-vaccines-and-autism/) to head up an yet another study of whether vaccines cause autism. > > David (who was previously charged in Maryland with practicing medicine without a license) and his father Mark (who lost his medical license in a number of states) have been involved in operating a chain of clinics in which autistic boys were subject to chemical castration therapy with the drug Lupron. What the holy hell??? How MAGAs (and any anti-vaxxers outside the Venn intersection with MAGAs), find all this to be “fine” is a true mystery. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1395 "2025-03-27T00:07:37Z")
Tribalism. ---
**Author:** ![Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mundane_super_hero/32/6304_2.png) [@Mundane\_Super\_Hero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mundane_Super_Hero)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1396 "2025-03-27T02:26:03Z")
I want a study to see why people who are fully contagious with measles think it’s perfectly fine to ride AMTRAK. > **[DC Measles Patient Took Train While Contagious](https://www.newser.com/story/366236/dc-measles-patient-took-train-while-contagious.html)** > > Meanwhile, kids in Texas are showing signs of liver damage from too much Vitamin A ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1397 "2025-03-27T02:46:11Z")
Vitamin A is not a measles preventive! It CAN reduce the severity of some of the symptoms in the first few days of the illness, in carefully controlled doses. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 11:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1398 "2025-03-27T11:46:30Z")
> [@PastTense](#): > > Do vaccines cause autism? Well the federal government is going to do another study and guess who is going to lead the study? What’s that DOGE report # to report Fraud, Waste and Abuse? ---
**Author:** ![keeganst94](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/a6a055/32.png) [@keeganst94](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeganst94)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1399 "2025-03-27T12:05:56Z")
From that article: > This patient, who was vaccinated, flew into Reagan National Airport from Minnesota, but was not contagious at that time, per the [_Washington Post_](https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2025/03/25/dc-measles-case/). Health officials warned of possible exposures on the Amtrak Northeast Regional 175 southbound train and at the Amtrak Concourse at Union Station on the evening of March 19 and at MedStar Health Urgent Care at Adams Morgan on Saturday evening. You can be contagious without having serious symptoms, so pretty likely this guy wasn’t too worried (because he’s vaccinated), travelled by train on the 19th, then found out he had measles at that clinic on the 22nd. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1400 "2025-03-27T15:37:03Z")
Given my age, the time when I got the shots, and the return of both Measles and Mumps, I got one. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2025, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1401 "2025-03-27T21:51:32Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Vitamin A is not a measles preventive! It CAN reduce the severity of some of the symptoms in the first few days of the illness, in carefully controlled doses. But unfortunately RFK Jr. has convinced a lot of people that taking massive and dangerous doses is the Smart Thing to Do: > [@](#): > > …vitamin A toxicity. > > At Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock, near the outbreak’s epicenter, several patients have been found to have abnormal liver function on routine lab tests, a probable sign that they’ve taken too much of the vitamin … > > The hospitalized children with the toxicity were all unvaccinated. … Thanks, RFK Jr.! Thanks, Trump!!! > **[Some measles patients in West Texas show signs of vitamin A toxicity, doctors...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/health/texas-measles-vitamin-a-toxicity/index.html)** > > Doctors treating people hospitalized as part of a measles outbreak in Texas and New Mexico have also found themselves facing another problem: vitamin A toxicity. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=69) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=71)