# Anti-vaxxers are ignorant scumbags that kill children **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 1, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626 "2016-09-01T01:59:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 74
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1462 "2025-09-03T23:01:08Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > Even though this isn’t the first such alliance, I can’t help but wonder if the Orange Peril will paint it as an insurrection — WORSE THAN THE CIVIL WAR (WHICH WASN’T AT ALL ABOUT SLAVERY)!!! — and try to justify imposing martial law. I’m glad I live in a state that’s part of that alliance and proud to work for the state. ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2025, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1463 "2025-09-03T23:56:51Z")
Looks like the trip to Calgary is off. Colorado has updated their rules so that anyone over 6 months old can get a Covid vaccine. Previously the Colorado rules governing vaccination at pharmacies basically said, “follow the federal rules,” so when the federal rules vanished the pharmacy companies decided to halt non-prescription covid vaccinations. This change in rules adds appropriate state level rules for seasonal vaccines. Colorado is far from Florida, so might not be the best first choice, but is centrally located with a major airport for people who need to travel for vaccines. > **[Colorado issues orders allowing people to get a COVID vaccination this year...](https://coloradosun.com/2025/09/03/colorado-covid-vaccination-prescription-order/)** > > Colorado health officials issued an order allowing people to get a COVID vaccine without a prescription at pharmacies like CVS or Walgreens ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1464 "2025-09-04T00:53:05Z")
Yeah, I mentioned in a QZ zone post that there were issues where Colorado wasn’t _at the time_ (last week, but my post was 2 days ago) wasn’t able to get you a vaccine without a prescription, and working with my PCP to get one. AFAIK though, it’s the same restrictions - if you’re under 65 you need to have one or more of the “qualifying” characteristics or risks to get one, and of course, who knows how this is going to fall out with my healthcare provider. But a lot better chance today than yesterday! ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1465 "2025-09-04T02:02:35Z")
The way the article describes it, the new Colorado directive creates a “standing prescription” for everyone over 6 months old. I don’t know if that’s true, that’s just what I think it says. The directive doesn’t direct insurance to pay for it, though. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1466 "2025-09-04T17:11:29Z")
Senator Bill Cassidy, _ **Republican** _ senator from Louisiana, did (for a change) rip Kennedy a new asshole today. (Short video) > **[Live updates: RFK Jr. grilled over vaccines, Covid and CDC turmoil at Senate...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-rfk-jr-cdc-ukraine-gaza-tariffs-epstein-congress-live-updates-rcna228312?utm_source=firefox-newtab-en-us)** > > Live updates and the latest news as RFK Jr. faces Senate questions on CDC and vaccine moves, U.S. and allies meet on Ukraine and Trump appeals tariffs to Supreme Court. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1467 "2025-09-04T22:06:24Z")
Hawaii has joined the CA-OR-WA health alliance. The new country of Orcawahi is sounding better and better. ---
**Author:** ![Zoobi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/13edae/32.png) [@Zoobi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoobi)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1468 "2025-09-04T22:17:01Z")
That dumb shit shouldn’t have voted to confirm then should he? He can shove his concerns up his wrinkled old ass. ---
**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1469 "2025-09-04T23:48:24Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > Hawaii has joined the CA-OR-WA health alliance. Ah, the Ninth Circuit of Health. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2025, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1470 "2025-09-04T23:53:17Z")
> [@echoreply](#): > > The directive doesn’t direct insurance to pay for it, though. Health insurance companies would be wise to continue to cover the COVID shots, tho, as they are probably WAY cheaper than covering people in the hospital and on ventilators. ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1471 "2025-09-05T00:07:33Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Health insurance companies would be wise to continue to cover the COVID shots, tho, as they are probably WAY cheaper than covering people in the hospital and on ventilators. A lot of insurance plans offer wellness incentives -discounts on monthly premiums- to get your yearly physical, vaccines, stop smoking, etc., etc. Insurance companies want people to vaccinate. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1472 "2025-09-05T00:26:31Z")
> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#): > > > [@TroutMan](#): > > > > Hawaii has joined the CA-OR-WA health alliance. > > Ah, the Ninth Circuit of Health. Bwa-hahahahahahahaha! Brilliantly done. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1473 "2025-09-05T00:37:23Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Senator Bill Cassidy, _ **Republican** _ senator from Louisiana, did (for a change) rip Kennedy a new asshole today. Talk is cheap. Cassidy won’t do anything concrete to upset his MAGA masters. But by offending antivaxers’ cult leader, he’s angered Junior’s supporters (comments on his Twitter account are brutal), while doing little to gain back respect of those who’ve held him in contempt for enabling Junior’s takeover of public health. The end result of his flip-flopping may well be [loss of his Senate seat in 2026](https://www.shreveporttimes.com/story/news/2025/08/12/will-louisiana-republican-party-withhold-endorse-of-bill-cassidy-because-of-trump-impeachment-vote/85618783007/). > [@Odesio](#): > > Insurance companies want people to vaccinate. That stance has really confused antivaxers. A popular antivax meme refers to a regional health insurer, which has offered financial incentives to physicians who get a set percentage of their patients vaccinated. Antivaxers rage that this is “bribery”, not comprehending that insurers save money when they don’t have to make payouts to people sick with vaccine-preventable diseases. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1474 "2025-09-05T02:06:33Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > not comprehending Antivaxxers not comprehending something? How unusual 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Fugazi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f08c70/32.png) [@Fugazi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fugazi)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1475 "2025-09-05T17:09:32Z")
For sure. Someone should conduct a study. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2025, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1476 "2025-09-05T18:57:18Z")
Anti vaccination forces vs. insurance companies… Can they all just explode? ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2025, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1477 "2025-09-07T22:00:27Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Can they all just explode? Or could God decide that the face-wilter warning shot didn’t teach RFK Jr. his lesson and escalate to the full _Raiders of the Lost Ark_ smiting? ---
**Author:** ![echoreply](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/echoreply/32/3641_2.png) [@echoreply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echoreply)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2025, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1478 "2025-09-08T01:35:53Z")
Conversation this evening. Me: I’ve scheduled us vaccines for Friday to make RFK jr angry. Kid: who’s RFK jr? Me: he’s in charge of health for the country and he is anti-vax. Kid: what the fuck? Grandma: exactly! ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2025, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1479 "2025-10-20T18:20:06Z")
Depressing news: > **[Idaho Banned Vaccine Mandates. Activists Want to Make It a Model for the...](https://arstechnica.com/health/2025/10/after-success-in-idaho-anti-vaccine-activists-want-to-export-their-idiocy-nationwide/)** > > The Idaho Medical Freedom Act makes it illegal to require anyone to take a vaccine or receive “medical intervention.” Leslie Manookian, the activist behind the law, hopes to make it a “societal norm” for the rest of the country. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2025, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1480 "2025-11-04T02:24:39Z")
More bad news: Canada is close to losing its measles elimination status. > [@](#): > > The Canadian outbreak began in October 2024 in New Brunswick, a province on the country’s eastern seaboard. As of Tuesday, more than 5,000 cases had been reported. Two babies have died. > **[Canada is likely to lose its measles elimination status. The U.S. could be next.](https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/canada-likely-lose-measles-elimination-status-us-rcna240300)** > > Neither country has been able to stop continuous spread of the highly contagious virus within the past year. ---
**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2025, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1481 "2025-11-07T22:11:47Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > More bad news: Canada is close to losing its measles elimination status. I was curious about the measles vaccination rate in Canada, and apparently it’s down. That drop is attributed to the COVID period, which is the reason often given for the drop in the USA, too. “Regional variations” exist in both nations, as might be expected. > **[Vaccination coverage in Canada - Canada.ca](https://www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/immunization-vaccines/vaccination-coverage.html)** > > How Canada monitors vaccination against preventable diseases. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=73) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626.md?page=75)