# Anti-vaxxers are ignorant scumbags that kill children

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 1, 2016, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626 "2016-09-01T01:59:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ancient\_Nerd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed655f/32.png) [@Ancient\_Nerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ancient_Nerd)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1702 "2026-05-14T20:35:50Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> What they are talking about was science fiction at the time, and still is. We’re getting closer to possibly being able to implement that kind of miniaturization every year, but we are still very far off.

The need for a battery to get any kind of range is a law of physics. That obstacle should remain for a very long time.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1703 "2026-05-14T21:22:34Z")

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> [@Ancient\_Nerd](#):
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> The need for a battery to get any kind of range is a law of physics.

It is not. **Power** is a law of physics. Whether that’s a battery or not is an engineering choice.

Who knows what power options we might have that far in the future. Maybe something powered through body heat, kinetic motion, etc. Science-fiction ideas, sure, but again that’s far-off speculation either way. I hesitate to say it would never be possible.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1704 "2026-05-14T21:23:02Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> That’s the kind of constantly terrified, willfully ignorant person

…who sneers at people getting vaccinated and wearing masks during a pandemic as “living in fear”. 🤪

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1705 "2026-05-14T21:23:32Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> …who sneers at people getting vaccinated and wearing masks during a pandemic as “living in fear”. 🤪

Another “every accusation is a confession” example for sure!

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1706 "2026-05-14T21:33:16Z")

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Hmm… This article implies that the kind of self-powered microchips that can be injected are already in the prototype stage?

> **[New therapeutic brain implants could defy the need for surgery](https://news.mit.edu/2025/new-therapeutic-brain-implants-defy-surgery-need-1105)**
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> Microscopic bioelectronic devices could one day travel through the body’s circulatory system and autonomously self-implant in a target region of the brain. These “circulatronics” can be wirelessly powered to provide focused electrical stimulation to...

Though what these sorts of devices actually _do_ seems to fall short of what conspiracy theorists allege. Basically, they can be used to send small electrical pulses to a particular area of the body.

Now, they say they are “wirelessly powered”. I suspect that means putting something close to the patient, maybe even touching them, to power the chip. Not some distant transmitter like a radio tower. That might indeed be the biggest flaw in these conspiracy theories.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1707 "2026-05-14T21:45:14Z")

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~~Tin~~ Aluminum Foil hat on,  
Guys? The 5G towers power the chips. It’s been all over Rumble, BitChute, and even YouTube!

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**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1708 "2026-05-14T22:05:40Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> Now, they say they are “wirelessly powered”. I suspect that means putting something close to the patient, maybe even touching them, to power the chip.

Probably inductively charged, so very close range.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1709 "2026-05-14T22:20:49Z")

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> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Probably inductively charged, so very close range.

Stick you with a needle that touches the chip inside you to power it.

😜

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**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\
**Post date:** [May 14, 2026, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1710 "2026-05-14T23:53:35Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> But these are often the kinds of people that see all technology as some sort of magical force capable of anything, barely a step above being in a cargo cult. That’s the kind of constantly terrified, willfully ignorant person that latches onto conspiracy theories as a lifeline to try to make sense of a world they understand even less than your average person.

So, in short, the anti-vaxx “micro/nanochip” panic is the 21st century equivalent of “The witch needed a piece of my hair/nails/blood to put a _Hex_ on me!”

I totally see that.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [May 15, 2026, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1711 "2026-05-15T01:16:03Z")

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> [@ParallelLines](#):
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> So, in short, the anti-vaxx “micro/nanochip” panic is the 21st century equivalent of “The witch needed a piece of my hair/nails/blood to put a _Hex_ on me!”

It is 100% that.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1712 "2026-05-17T03:54:53Z")

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A well-deserved outcome: Senator Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, after voting for Trump’s impeachment during his first term and then trying to appease Trump by enabling RFK Jr 's nomination as HHS Secretary, has been defeated in the Louisiana G.O.P. primary, coming in third. Two other MAGA clones, including one that Trump endorsed, are headed for a runoff.

> **[Sen. Bill Cassidy loses GOP primary in Louisiana, as two rivals advance to a...](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/julia-letlow-advances-louisiana-senate-gop-runoff-sen-bill-cassidy-tra-rcna344954)**
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> Rep. Julia Letlow, who had Trump’s endorsement, advanced to a primary runoff against state Treasurer John Fleming, NBC News projects.

Cassidy will be remembered for sacrificing his pro-vaccine principles by voting in RFK Jr. and humiliating himself kissing Trump’s butt nonstop.

Trump is gloating. Next on his enemies list and targeted for defeat: Lauren Boebert.

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**Author:** ![Sherrerd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sherrerd/32/8_2.png) [@Sherrerd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sherrerd)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2026, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1713 "2026-05-17T21:42:58Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Next on his enemies list and targeted for defeat: Lauren Boebert.

Not forgetting Thomas Massie, the Kentucky Rep who championed the publication of the Epstein Files. He faces a primary election on Tuesday (19 May).

Donald no likey!

> **[Trump attacks Massie as Republican critic describes ‘desperate’ attempts to...](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/may/17/trump-thomas-massie-primary)**
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> US president writes ‘vote the bum out’ as congressman faces close race against Trump-endorsed Republican

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**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1714 "2026-07-10T20:58:44Z")

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This just makes me so angry.

[health.ny.gov/press/releases/2026/2026-07-09\_fraudulent\_vaccination\_records\_penalty.htm](https://www.health.ny.gov/press/releases/2026/2026-07-09_fraudulent_vaccination_records_penalty.htm)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2026, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1715 "2026-07-10T22:09:19Z")

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Could you at least post the name of the article?

Here, I’ll help:

> **New York State Department of Health Announces Historic $544K Penalty Against Former Suffolk County Nurse Practitioner for Fraudulent Vaccination Practices**
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> Department of Health Found Julie DeVuono Submitted Fraudulent Vaccination Records for 162 Children to New York’s Immunization Registry

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2026, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1716 "2026-07-11T02:42:58Z")

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Similar case:

> **[ ](https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/naturopathic-doctor-pleads-guilty-fake-covid-19-immunization-and-vaccination-card-scheme)**

Maybe the nurse practitioner hit with the whopping fine can go on the lecture circuit, sell supplements and recruit a flock of Substack subscribers as part of a new moneymaking career.

Those and related strategies have worked great for Peter McCullough and other antivax figures.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2026, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/anti-vaxxers-are-ignorant-scumbags-that-kill-children/764626/1717 "2026-07-11T03:12:39Z")

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Falsifying medical records is a one-way ticket to job loss and license revocation.

A diagnosed measles case was reported in Iowa, where I live, for the first time in many years. Gosh, if only there was some way to prevent it.

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