# Antifa terrorist attacks ICE detention center, gets killed

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**Created:** [July 14, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa-terrorist-attacks-ice-detention-center-gets-killed/837053 "2019-07-14T03:15:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa-terrorist-attacks-ice-detention-center-gets-killed/837053/181 "2019-07-17T03:11:59Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> The daughter’s statement(s), including the one about “hearsay evidence”, are irrelevant.

Other than her statements, what evidence do you have that his wife took out protective statements?

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> The evidence of the dead Antifa terrorist’s domestic violence was sufficient to persuade a judge to issue / renew a protective order four separate times, over a span of years. I wasn’t present at any of those hearings, nor any of the times he beat his wife, but that’s a good enough basis, in my eyes at least, to accept “The shithead was a wife-beater”, absent some convincing evidence to the contrary. What about for you? Are you still in the ‘four restraining orders doesn’t prove anything about domestic violence’ camp?

I’m in the camp that I don’t know what the claim of domestic violence entailed, nor do I know what the evidence was, so I’m not calling him names. (Nor, of course, am I saying he’s innocent–I’m saying that because I think some people are incapable of reading carefully enough to realize that, but it’s in parenthesis because it shouldn’t be necessary to point it out).

I’m also in the camp that the evidence we actually have against certain Republicans re: domestic violence is far greater, but you’ve rejected it, so mostly your take on this guy is just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa-terrorist-attacks-ice-detention-center-gets-killed/837053/182 "2019-07-17T04:28:57Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Other than her statements, what evidence do you have that his wife took out protective statements? …

Since you asked, [this Heavy.com](https://heavy.com/news/2019/07/willem-van-spronsen-emma-durutti/amp/) article says

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> During his divorce case, Van Spronsen’s estranged wife received a domestic violence protection order against him four times. Those four orders were issued after hearings. The protective orders were issued in 2013, 2014, 2016 and in February 2019.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2019, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa-terrorist-attacks-ice-detention-center-gets-killed/837053/183 "2019-07-17T04:50:39Z")

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