# Antifa

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 24, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145 "2017-04-24T14:57:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/1 "2017-04-24T14:57:19Z")

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What do Dopers think about Antifa?

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/2 "2017-04-24T15:08:39Z")

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What do you think?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/3 "2017-04-24T15:10:37Z")

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> [@Lemur866](#):
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> What do you think?

I think they’re terrible people - advocating and effecting violence against their political opponents.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/4 "2017-04-24T15:15:16Z")

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1. Are you talking about [_Antifaschistische Aktion_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion)?
2. What is being debated here?

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**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/5 "2017-04-24T15:15:30Z")

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I think this is more of a MPSIMS OP and follow up.

Moved from Great Debates to MPSIMS.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/6 "2017-04-24T15:20:48Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> 1. Are you talking about [_Antifaschistische Aktion_](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifaschistische_Aktion)?
> 2. What is being debated here?

1. Yes, at least the American wing of it.

2. I wanted to know if Dopers were aware of them, ashamed, proud, indifferent, etc.

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**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/7 "2017-04-24T15:23:18Z")

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I don’t know what that is.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/8 "2017-04-24T15:23:36Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> I think they’re terrible people - advocating and effecting violence against their **political opponents**.

My bold. By political opponents, you really mean neo-nazis, right?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/9 "2017-04-24T15:23:53Z")

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I didn’t even know there _was_ an American branch-got any cites about them? Perhaps their website, some news articles etc.?

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/10 "2017-04-24T15:26:53Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> My bold. By political opponents, you really mean neo-nazis, right?

Do you consider Ann Coulter a neo-nazi?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/11 "2017-04-24T15:33:01Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Do you consider Ann Coulter a neo-nazi?

Is this you hinting at what side you are taking in the OP you posted?  
Personally, opposing Ann(Bugfuck Crazy) Coulter is a big plus in my book.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/12 "2017-04-24T15:35:52Z")

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Okay, let’s get things straight: By antifa, you mean who? Where? Antifa is not a cohesive, uniform group, you know that right? Antifa in Italy is different from antifa in Germany is different from antifa in Norway. I have no clue about antifa in America

Has Ann Coulter been beat up by american antifa members?

My own experience with antifa has been getting beat up by paramilitary police because I was suspected of being antifa (I’m not), and norwegian anarchists beating up russian neo-nazis sending them packing, because they set up shop just around the corner to spread their hate. Some antifa are complete crazies, some are mostly harmless, most are somewhere inbetween.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/13 "2017-04-24T15:37:53Z")

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> [@HurricaneDitka](#):
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> Do you consider Ann Coulter a neo-nazi?

No. But I’m anti-Coulter just the same.

Now answer the original question asked.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/14 "2017-04-24T15:41:11Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I didn’t even know there _was_ an American branch-got any cites about them? Perhaps their website, some news articles etc.?

Sure:

[NYC Antifa twitter](https://twitter.com/NYCAntifa?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)

[Berkeley Antifa facebook](https://www.facebook.com/berkeleyantifa/)

The “Battle of Berkely” clash on April 15, 2017 (note: there’s tons of video of this, I just grabbed a few random ones):

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCrP85Qqxk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFCrP85Qqxk)

[Mother Jones: I Went Behind the Front Lines With the Far-Right Agitators Who Invaded Berkeley](http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/far-right-white-supremacists-berkeley-protests-antifa-trump)

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/15 "2017-04-24T15:41:36Z")

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Are they a force at all in this country? Not only is there no wiki entry for the American branch, there is no mention of them at all in the main article at all. What have they done here that has you all in a tizzy?

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/16 "2017-04-24T15:45:52Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> My bold. By political opponents, you really mean neo-nazis, right?

Not really. It’s one of those labels which is used by a number of violence-advocating left-wing groups who will call a “fascist” anybody they happen to dislike. The name comes from “we dislike fascism” but the actions are more along the lines of “we want to beat you up therefore we’ll call you a fascist so we can justify beating you up”.

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/17 "2017-04-24T15:46:06Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Okay, let’s get things straight: By antifa, you mean who? Where? Antifa is not a cohesive, uniform group, you know that right? Antifa in Italy is different from antifa in Germany is different from antifa in Norway. I have no clue about antifa in America

I’m talking about the ones here in America.

> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Has Ann Coulter been beat up by american antifa members?

Not yet, but UC Berkeley cancelled her speaking visit because they were afraid Antifa might harm her

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/18 "2017-04-24T15:47:07Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Personally, opposing Ann(Bugfuck Crazy) Coulter is a big plus in my book.

Is threatening her with harm for speaking a big plus in your book?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/19 "2017-04-24T15:48:25Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> I didn’t even know there _was_ an American branch-got any cites about them? Perhaps their website, some news articles etc.?

Probably more [fake news](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/21/us/berkeley-ann-coulter-speech.html?_r=0).

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\
**Post date:** [April 24, 2017, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/20 "2017-04-24T15:49:02Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Now answer the original question asked.

> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> By political opponents, you really mean neo-nazis, right?

No, by “political opponents” I mean political opponents of the radical Left. People like Ann Coulter. I think Nava covered it well in post #16.

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