# Antifa **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 24, 2017, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145 "2017-04-24T14:57:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/181 "2017-04-27T21:01:03Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > I wonder what the odds are on antifa winning this skirmish. It’s Berkeley, so they’re playing on their home court. I’d give them decent odds. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/182 "2017-04-27T21:03:03Z")
Looks like the police might be a bit more proactive this time around: > [@](#): > > UC Berkeley Police - 2 Antifa Arrested for Wearing Mask and Carrying a Knife [source](https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/857693969811206144) ETA: “charged with having a sign large than 30 inches by 30 inches without prior authorization” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/183 "2017-04-27T21:06:11Z")
Here is [another livestream](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51415E1OfTg) ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/184 "2017-04-27T21:07:57Z")
Meanwhile on other parts of campus Wall Street Journal pages cause a panic. > **[Berkeley Campus On Lockdown After Loose Pages From ‘Wall Street Journal’...](https://www.theonion.com/berkeley-campus-on-lockdown-after-loose-pages-from-wal-1819579852)** > > BERKELEY, CA—Advising students to remain in their dormitories and classrooms until the situation was resolved, the University of California, Berkeley declared a campuswide lockdown Thursday after several loose pages from The Wall Street Journal were... ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/185 "2017-04-27T21:40:15Z")
Watched that live stream for a bit. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you that BAMN and antifa haven’t engaged. Do they only attack when they have vast numerical superiority? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/186 "2017-04-27T21:43:35Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Watched that live stream for a bit. I’m shocked. Shocked I tell you that BAMN and antifa haven’t engaged. Do they only attack when they have vast numerical superiority? Maybe it’s because [the police seized their M80’s](https://twitter.com/SteamingPierogi/status/857696270630006784) this time? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/187 "2017-04-27T21:48:18Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Meanwhile on other parts of campus Wall Street Journal pages cause a panic. > > [Berkeley Campus On Lockdown After Loose Pages From ‘Wall Street Journal’ Found On Park Bench](http://www.theonion.com/article/berkeley-campus-lockdown-after-loose-pages-wall-st-55815) Fake news! (Sad!) ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/188 "2017-04-27T21:52:20Z")
> [@HurricaneDitka](#): > > Maybe it’s because [the police seized their M80’s](https://twitter.com/SteamingPierogi/status/857696270630006784) this time? > [@](#): > > ANTIFA arrested with M80’s filled with BB’s. Curious how this works. How do you fill an M80 with BB’s? Not sure who Kevin G. is, myself. Do you have a cite for his journalism credentials? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/189 "2017-04-27T21:54:24Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > Curious how this works. How do you fill an M80 with BB’s? > > Not sure who Kevin G. is, myself. Do you have a cite for his journalism credentials? No. I have no idea who he is or if he’s correct or not. ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/190 "2017-04-27T22:00:24Z")
So far it’s actually more on the inspiring side of things. Lots of advocates for free speech, [some people having a rather civil back-and-forth about illegal immigration](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51415E1OfTg). ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/191 "2017-04-27T23:34:43Z")
There’s a heavy police presence keeping the anti-Trump / Antifa side and the pro-Trump / Coulter side away from each other. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/192 "2017-04-28T05:25:15Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > By recognizing and securing those rights, it most certainly does create those rights. “Recognizing and securing” is NOT the same thing as “creating”. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Anconia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@D\_Anconia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Anconia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/193 "2017-04-28T05:30:00Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > There are 27 examples of new rights that were thought of after the constitution was written. The U.S. Constitution does not grant any rights, it prevents the government from infringing on the rights we already have. The right of the people…shall not be infringed. ---
**Author:** ![Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/channing_idaho_banks/32/250_2.png) [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Channing_Idaho_Banks)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 8:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/194 "2017-04-28T08:03:36Z")
> [@D\_Anconia](#): > > The U.S. Constitution does not grant any rights, it prevents the government from infringing on the rights we already have. > > The right of the people…shall not be infringed. this is a decent conversation. I just don’t see how it got mixed up in this ANTIFA THREAD. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2017, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/195 "2017-04-28T14:29:33Z")
> [@Channing\_Idaho\_Banks](#): > > this is a decent conversation. I just don’t see how it got mixed up in this ANTIFA THREAD. It seems to me that it is being asserted that various governmental groups (in the form of University staff) are being pressured (by threats of vandalism and violence) into denying speaking venues to certain guests. So… just how important is this “free speech” right? Where does it stem from? How much should the government try to accommodate it? ---
**Author:** ![HurricaneDitka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/96bed5/32.png) [@HurricaneDitka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HurricaneDitka)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145/196 "2017-05-01T23:30:59Z")
:eek: [French protesters, better at rioting than American protesters since … well … pretty much always](https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3455166/may-day-riots-paris-marine-le-pen-supporters-clash-french-election/). I suspect that throwing firebombs at people here would be met with a lethal force response. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifa/785145.md?page=9)