# Antifacist food and booze **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 27, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442 "2005-04-27T21:44:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/1 "2005-04-27T21:44:12Z")
I’m a little disapointed of how most of Germany deals with the 8th of may (the day of ths capitulation of nazi-Germany) - especially since this is the 60th anniversary. There will be demonstrations of the usual suspects on the radical left, some neonazi activity and of course lot’s of official events - but not the wild partying I would hope there would be. So I’ve decided to throw a little party. I’d like to have food and drinks from the allied countries to eat and drink. There will be American sweets (muffins, brownies and such), Russian Vodka and English beer and crisps. While this is all nice, I’d like to have something more original as well. So if you fellow dopers could provide me with some ideas for - preferably easy to prepare - treats that are typical for th US, Russia and the UK I’d be thankful. ---
**Author:** ![Celyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@Celyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Celyn)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/2 "2005-04-27T21:47:04Z")
Have some whisky from Scotland. 🙂 zum Wohl! ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/3 "2005-04-27T22:03:37Z")
A yes, a meal to celebrate Peace! Peace!!! A little piece from Poland A little piece from France A little piece from Hungary And Austria per chance… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/4 "2005-04-27T22:09:03Z")
On Independence Day, Americans typically have a barbeque at which they serve frankfurters and hamburgers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/5 "2005-04-27T22:11:38Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > A yes, a meal to celebrate Peace! Peace!!! > > A little piece from Poland > A little piece from France > A little piece from Hungary > And Austria per chance… > 😃 … and some ice cream from russia to celebrate the russian winter in stalingrad? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/6 "2005-04-27T22:15:38Z")
> [@manhattan](#): > > On Independence Day, Americans typically have a barbeque at which they serve frankfurters and hamburgers. 😃 I’m kinda getting into this concept. I could firebomb some hamburgers. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Queen\_Tonya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/4491bb/32.png) [@Queen\_Tonya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Tonya)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/7 "2005-04-27T22:21:55Z")
Hmm, instead of muffins or brownies for American sweets, ya gotta have Apple pie, it’s as American as…well, itself. 😃 American food…hamburgers! Wait, sorry, that’s from y’all. Hot dogs! Err, no, we imported that too. Pizza? French fries? Spaghetti? Yeah, go with the pie thing. My only Russian food experience was forever ago in high school and all I remember was a lot of fried and breaded vegetables, like breaded cauliflower, cucumbers and mushrooms. My friend’s family seemed to eat a ton of pickles of every variety, but those might have been their own quirk and not traditional stuff. Either way, breaded mushrooms and pickles seem much easier than borscht and caviar, eh? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2005, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/8 "2005-04-27T23:41:28Z")
A while ago, some friends and I came to the conclusion that cornbread was the one truly American food. Is it possible to find cornbread mix over there? Or cornmeal? Note that by corn, I mean maize, or American corn, or sweetcorn, or whatever Europeans call it. For other American foods, you can pretty much make anything, as long as it has way more fat and sugar than it really needs. In addition to hamburgers and hot dogs, pizza and fried chicken are also favorites (especially at parties). Americans regard apple pie as being very American, but I’m not sure how distinctive that is. The saying goes “As American as Mom and apple pie”, but then, other nations have moms, too. ---
**Author:** ![Doug\_Bowe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df788c/32.png) [@Doug\_Bowe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doug_Bowe)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/9 "2005-04-28T00:11:34Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > A while ago, some friends and I came to the conclusion that cornbread was the one truly American food. Is it possible to find cornbread mix over there? Or cornmeal? Note that by corn, I mean maize, or American corn, or sweetcorn, or whatever Europeans call it. > > For other American foods, you can pretty much make anything, as long as it has way more fat and sugar than it really needs. In addition to hamburgers and hot dogs, pizza and fried chicken are also favorites (especially at parties). > > Americans regard apple pie as being very American, but I’m not sure how distinctive that is. The saying goes “As American as Mom and apple pie”, but then, other nations have moms, too. Cooks on the Titanic acknowledged the large number of Americans on board by stocking triple the normal amount of cornmeal. Americans in 1912 apparantly demanded cornbread with the meal. And these Americans weren’t po’ folks. They were in first and second class. Looking at menus from the 1945 era…Southern Fried Chicken, Fried Pork Chops, Pot Roast, homemade rolls, au gratin potatos. ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/10 "2005-04-28T00:29:56Z")
Hmmmm… So, according to you, only the Brits, the Yanks and the Ivans are worthy to be celebrated ? What about us the Canucks ? How about some fresh seafood ? New Brunswick lobster, Newfoundland cod, Quebec shrimps, Nova Scotia salmon ? or how about game ? Canadian goose, deer or hare ? or potato plates (made of course with potatoes from PEI) ? ---
**Author:** ![detop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@detop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/detop)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/11 "2005-04-28T00:30:58Z")
**dishes** , not plates :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Zhen\_ka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecccb3/32.png) [@Zhen\_ka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zhen_ka)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/12 "2005-04-28T01:11:18Z")
Why not have some Native American fry bread? Though everyone makes it differently (in that secret, special way no one wants to share), this recipe seemed good. From: [http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,184,153164-227204,00.html](http://www.cooks.com/rec/doc/0,184,153164-227204,00.html) INDIAN FRY BREAD 3 c. flour 1 tbsp. baking powder 1/2 tsp. salt 1 c. warm water Combine flour, baking powder and salt in a large mixing bowl. Add warm water in small amounts and knead dough until soft but not sticky. Sometimes more flour or water will be needed. Cover bowl and let stand for about 15 minutes. Pull off large egg sized ball of dough and roll out into round about 1/4" thick. Punch hole in center of each round piercing several times with fork to allow dough to puff. In a heavy skillet fry (deep fry) rounds in lard or other shortening until bubbles appear on dough, turn over and fry on other side until golden. INDIAN TACO is made by covering the fry bread with layers of fried hamburger meat, shredded lettuce, cheddar cheese, chopped onions and diced tomatoes. Cover the top with red or green chili sauce according to taste. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/13 "2005-04-28T02:20:48Z")
Muffins are an American treat? You learn something new every day. For Canada you could always make that poutine thing that scares me to contemplate. ---
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 9:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/14 "2005-04-28T09:02:44Z")
How could i forget apple pie and make that horrible muffin mistake! There will be no dinner but a table with snacks. i’d like to have at lest some food that enables me to stick little flags in them. So Canadian lobster is ruled out ;). I will add something Canadian though. Cornbread sounds good, whisky from Scotland will be there and hopefully I will come up with soemthing russian other than vodka. I hate borscht and only dream of being able to afford real caviar (or is this the price you have to pay for freedom?). I love the idea to have some native american food to celebrate the Navajo code talkers. **Zsofias** mentioning of the scary poutine thing sounds interesting - maybe someone has the courage to specify. Thank y’all for the helpful and/or funy responses so far. ---
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 9:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/15 "2005-04-28T09:08:30Z")
funny responses even. Damn, my posts still are full of mistakes and weird use of words. I’m still proud to have masterd my fear of posting on an english language messageboard. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![belladonna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9fc29f/32.png) [@belladonna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/belladonna)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/16 "2005-04-28T09:44:30Z")
Rice Krispy Treats are easy and tasty, do you guys do those over there? ---
**Author:** ![Ranchoth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranchoth/32/1066_2.png) [@Ranchoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranchoth)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/17 "2005-04-28T10:27:25Z")
WWII American? Coca-Cola, and chocolate bars. Potato chips, as I remember, are [believed to have been invented in the united states.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potato_chips) Barbeque’s also fairly “American,” in image. And make sure to “borrow” your neighbors’ good silverware to eat, with. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 10:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/18 "2005-04-28T10:29:58Z")
> [@electrozion](#): > > So if you fellow dopers could provide me with some ideas for - preferably easy to prepare - treats that are typical for th US, Russia and the UK I’d be thankful. You not only forgot the Canucks (and Aussies, and Kiwis, and Springboks) but also the “cheese eating surrender monkeys” otherwise known as the “free French forces” that fought in North Africa, and the Poles, the Dutch, and even the Brazilians (they sent an expeditionary force of about 20 000 men to help with the invasion of Italy). Just imagine the menu you can come up with now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mycroft\_Holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a5b964/32.png) [@Mycroft\_Holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mycroft_Holmes)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/19 "2005-04-28T10:31:54Z")
> [@Ranchoth](#): > > WWII American? Coca-Cola, and chocolate bars. My mom was five years old when the Americans marched into her home town. she remembers getting Hershey Bars (the first time she had ever had chocolate) and chewing gum from the soldiers. Those would probably be your best for a really authentic party. ---
**Author:** ![electrozion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/85f322/32.png) [@electrozion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/electrozion)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2005, 11:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442/20 "2005-04-28T11:08:40Z")
> [@Mycroft Holmes](#): > > You not only forgot the Canucks (and Aussies, and Kiwis, and Springboks) but also the “cheese eating surrender monkeys” otherwise known as the “free French forces” that fought in North Africa, and the Poles, the Dutch, and even the Brazilians (they sent an expeditionary force of about 20 000 men to help with the invasion of Italy). > > Just imagine the menu you can come up with now. 😃 So you think if I just skip sauerkraut and sushi, Ill be fine? 😉 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antifacist-food-and-booze/301442.md?page=2)