# Antique car fans: help me ID this old car (pickup?) **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [August 2, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665 "2014-08-02T18:33:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/1 "2014-08-02T18:33:14Z")
Images here: > **[Imgur](https://lanciasdmb.imgur.com/all)** > > Imgur: The magic of the Internet A family member sent me these pics. I’m going to try to get a few more, but this is what I have now. I haven’t seen the vehicle in person, so I only have these two images to use for ID purposes. One hubcap has “GB” on it, and the piece of sheetmetal that would have behind or directly above the front grill has a sort of exaggerated “M” on it. I think this is a pickup, as there is no body over the rear axle. I have no idea, but my curiosity is driving me nuts! Any ideas? ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/2 "2014-08-02T18:37:52Z")
I added closeup pic of hubcap, it’s almost certainly “GB”. ---
**Author:** ![scr4](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@scr4](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scr4)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/3 "2014-08-02T18:50:04Z")
[Austin 7](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_7)? ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/4 "2014-08-02T19:04:40Z")
Interesting. The car is in a field in Montana, and apparently has been there for at least 30 years. I don’t know how many Austin 7’s were sold in the US; the main identifying feature seems to be those GB hubcaps, which I’m not finding any info on Austin 7’s possessing. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/5 "2014-08-02T19:06:52Z")
Holy crap. I found it. [http://hubcapcollector.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=154#top\_display\_media](http://hubcapcollector.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=154#top_display_media) Graham Brothers? Never heard of them. This should be fun! ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/6 "2014-08-02T19:10:12Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > Holy crap. I found it. > > [http://hubcapcollector.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=154#top\_display\_media](http://hubcapcollector.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=2&pid=154#top_display_media) > > Graham Brothers? Never heard of them. This should be fun! There were a large number of car manufacturers in the early days of production. Ford eventually ran most of them out of business with his production line. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/7 "2014-08-02T19:20:02Z")
Here’s a good history of them: > **[Graham Brothers Trucks and Graham-Paige Motors](https://www.allpar.com/threads/graham-brothers-trucks-and-graham-paige-motors.229473/#post-1085223571)** > > Graham Brothers Trucks and Graham-Paige Motors > > by Terry Parkhurst, > updatedby Bill Watson > > With the change from Dodge Ram to just "Ram" for Dodge trucks, it's time to trace the lineage of Ram trucks back to the time before they were Dodges. > > > > The... ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/8 "2014-08-02T19:34:23Z")
They were apparently the original Ram truck manufacturers, before the Dodge brothers got involved. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/9 "2014-08-02T19:47:37Z")
Sweet. So it looks like it was built sometime between 1916 and 1929. I know who the owner is . . . I 'm going to see if it’s for sale. ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/10 "2014-08-02T19:54:09Z")
> [@Lancia](#): > > Sweet. So it looks like it was built sometime between 1916 and 1929. > > I know who the owner is . . . I 'm going to see if it’s for sale. Love the wooden spokes. Ya might want to check for termites, though. ---
**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\ **Post date:** [August 2, 2014, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/11 "2014-08-02T21:14:44Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Love the wooden spokes. Ya might want to check for termites, though. Is it just me, or does it look like there is still air in the tires? ---
**Author:** ![Neidhart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Neidhart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neidhart)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/12 "2014-08-03T11:41:53Z")
Why does it still have tires? Wouldn’t the rubber have rotted away to nothing, or been taken during the WWII rubber drives? ---
**Author:** ![bubba001](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f17d59/32.png) [@bubba001](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bubba001)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2014, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/13 "2014-08-03T23:06:29Z")
> [@Chefguy](#): > > Love the wooden spokes. Ya might want to check for termites, though. I don’t think they have termites in Montana. Too cold. ---
**Author:** ![usedtobe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@usedtobe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/usedtobe)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2014, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antique-car-fans-help-me-id-this-old-car-pickup/694665/14 "2014-08-04T06:31:16Z")
Expect to find wood in more places than the spokes - even the Fords of 28-31 (Model A) had wooden headers over the windshield and wooden frame and bows in the center of the roof (except coupe). They didn’t have presses large enough to turn out 1-piece tops. The 4-window 4-door is fabric over wood above the belt line. Ebay once a had a late-20’s Stutz - basically a pile of sheet metal, has the wooden frame to which it had been tacked had rotted away.