# Antisemitism among non-Germans during WWII

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 17, 2007, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150 "2007-07-17T16:17:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/21 "2007-07-18T21:16:13Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Charles Lindburgh?  
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You mean like was already mentioned with a great cite a few posts up?

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/22 "2007-07-18T21:55:51Z")

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> not so much with Franco’s Spain, which at times provide asylum to Jewish refugees

One set of Franco’s grandparents was Jewish I believe.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/23 "2007-07-18T22:24:38Z")

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[QUOTE=Guinastasia]  
Charles Lindburgh?  
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Unfortunately so. Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford were both Anti-Semitic and Pro-Nazi.

Or were you just correcting the spelling bergh/burgh?

Google hits about 17,200 for Charles Lindburgh and 1,720,000 for Charles Lindbergh

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/24 "2007-07-18T22:51:57Z")

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A relative lack of antisemitism in the West is a very recent phenomenon-- probably occurring only in the last generation or 2. In the US, for example, there were still quotas for how many Jews were allowed into some (all?) Ivy League schools as late as 1960s. Housing covenants restricted not just Blacks, but Jews as well. As a cultural indicator, the movie [_Gentleman’s Agreement_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman%27s_Agreement) was released in 1947.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/25 "2007-07-18T23:12:42Z")

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Don’t think that anti semitism is gone out here either. I think it is mostly hidden but it is there, I have experianced very little anti semitism since I graduated from High School. But I grew up in Los Angeles, graduated from High School in 2000, and have experienced a good deal of anti semitism from both other students and faculty members when I was a child. Mostly in the way of insults but I have gotten into a fight or two.

The fact that my sister got called a filthy Jew by another student in her 7th grade class, and I mean actually out loud in class in full hearing of one of her teachers, and the other student wasn’t even given detention by the administration (because it was only a joke, see?)…anti semitism isn’t nearly as close to being gone as it should be.

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**Post date:** [July 18, 2007, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/26 "2007-07-18T23:19:26Z")

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[QUOTE=John Mace]  
As a cultural indicator, the movie [_Gentleman’s Agreement_](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gentleman%27s_Agreement) was released in 1947.  
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Hell, there are some clubs where it’s still active. My uncle, an avid golfer, tried to get in a local club about ten years ago. He didn’t want to, because he heard they were restricted, but a friend who was part of the clug said he should try. A few months later, he asked the friend how he stood. “Good, you’re 12 on the waiting list.” A year later, he asked the friend the same thing. “Great, you’re 16 on the waiting list.”

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/27 "2007-07-19T00:04:27Z")

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Echoing and Expanding on **Jackmannii** and \*\*Tomndeb \*\*many elements of the America/First Isolationist movement were Anti-Semitic.

Partially this was fueled by the correct belief that Hitler hated and would try destroy the communists, combined with the erroneous belief that Communists were chiefly Jews (or vice versa). Many of these groups like the National Legion of Mothers of America, besides being rabidly anti-communist were what we would call today “Religious Right” Organizations seeking to return the US to Christian Principles and basis that they contended the Country had veered from (and entry into WWII would be further proof of). Obviously Jews were a threat/speed bump/issue with that idea.

[Two](http://www.press.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/hfs.cgi/00/13031.ctl) [other](http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=85979197#) cites to go with Jack’s good one

That is awful realitychuck but funny in way like groucho would make it funny

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**Post date:** [July 19, 2007, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antisemitism-among-non-germans-during-wwii/412150/28 "2007-07-19T12:54:21Z")

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[QUOTE=groman]  
Knowing a few Bulgarians myself the first thing that popped into my mind was a somewhat fucked up explanation of “Of course, without the Jews who would they blame for all their problems!” (I kid. Sort of. 😉 )  
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Well, geez, the gypsies, obviously. \*Everything \* is the gyspies’ fault, didn’t you know that?

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> As for Bulgaria, they did save their Jewish population. But I’ve always heard it being attributed to King Boris.

If King Boris had wanted the deportations to go on, they probably would have, but it doesn’t seem like he stopped them out of a feeling of humanitarianism - it was more for political reasons that he didn’t go along with them. It seems clear that he wasn’t particularly fond of the Jews himself.

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