# Antivaxers are now advocating for not giving rabies vaccines because it shortens the life and causes autism...in dogs **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 7, 2024, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979 "2024-04-07T19:06:51Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/61 "2024-04-10T00:13:29Z")
> [@PhillyGuy](#): > > Why the phrase “canine/feline” was included in a dog survey, I do not know. BECUZ TEh VACCINE CAN TURN UR DOG INTO A CAT!!11one ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/62 "2024-04-10T01:24:17Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > > [@garygnu](#): > > > > People have forgotten what diseases are really like because of vaccines. > > I do think that’s part of it. > > When I was growing up, we pretty much took vaccinations for granted (though I’ve later learned that there were some bits of resistance.) Our parents, and older sibs, had all lived through polio epidemics. (Those my age had too, but too young to remember.) Definitely that’s part of it. People today are spoiled by not having regular exposure to diseases that disabled or killed millions in the past. I like to remind people that their grandparents or great-grandparents would be glad for the rarity of those diseases today. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/63 "2024-04-10T01:34:02Z")
These people need to spend a few months in India. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/64 "2024-04-10T01:48:45Z")
But the reason that we don’t get those diseases anymore is because we keep our environment cleaned properly! (There is an undertone of racism in the anti-vax movement) ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/65 "2024-04-10T02:42:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Most people in my mom’s generation knew someone who lost a child to measles. A lot of them remember the funerals. I’ve posted this before, but my sister-in-law is a pediatrician whose practice will no longer accept mothers who won’t vaccinate their kids, after an infant patient died of whooping cough. She said that most mothers-to-be listen to the reasoning and agree to vax. ---
**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/66 "2024-04-10T03:03:58Z")
Anti-vax has a long history. That’s why there were U.S. Supreme Court vaccination cases in 1905 and 1922. Then there was a period after World War II with less U.S. anti-vax sentiment. I’m thinking that this was because people trusted the government and experts due to success in that war. There seems to have been virtually no preventive vaccination of dogs before about 1950. But if there had been mandatory vaccination of dogs in the early 20th century, it would have been controversial. Now, I am all for vaccinating pets. There was been a big decline in human rabies after pet vaccination became commonly mandatory. ---
**Author:** ![Zyada](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zyada/32/3028_2.png) [@Zyada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zyada)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/67 "2024-04-10T03:25:33Z")
We should make them read Old Yeller. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/68 "2024-04-10T05:01:16Z")
I’ve heard that many doctors will not vaccinate a child with just the father’s permission, because they’ve dealt with far too many angry anti-vax mothers. However, mothers can make such a decision unilaterally. Go figure. Has your SIL ever said anything about that? Measles was pretty much a thing of the past by the time I came along, but I grew up with several kids who had a sibling who was disabled due to prenatal rubella (German measles). This disease is especially scary because people can have it without knowing it. ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 8:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/69 "2024-04-10T08:55:20Z")
> [@Beckdawrek](#): > > These people need to spend a few months in India. Even India isn’t having some of these diseases the way they used to. Polio cases, for example have plummeted (although there are pockets of resistance to vaccination due to some scum bags spreading evil rumors). ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/70 "2024-04-10T09:28:12Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > Our parents, and older sibs, had all lived through polio epidemics. Fake news! /s ---
**Author:** ![kambuckta](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/53a042/32.png) [@kambuckta](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kambuckta)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/71 "2024-04-10T09:46:25Z")
So when should we expect to see the first RABIES PARTIES advertised on FB and other social media? I mean, get your furbabies immunised by exposing them to the actual virus, isn’t that the way it works?? And bring your kids along too, just a quick bite (better than a fucking jab) and your child is, well, probably dead, but better than being immunised, right? ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/72 "2024-04-10T10:52:56Z")
> [@kambuckta](#): > > And bring your kids along too, just a quick bite (better than a fucking jab) and your child is, well, probably dead, but better than being immunised, right? A bite is just a jab with teeth, really. ---
**Author:** ![Wolf333](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf333/32/3460_2.png) [@Wolf333](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wolf333)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/73 "2024-04-10T11:56:39Z")
So, vaccine chemtrails? ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/74 "2024-04-10T11:57:49Z")
Shhh, you’ll alert the antvaxers! ---
**Author:** ![Love\_Rhombus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/love_rhombus/32/10694_2.png) [@Love\_Rhombus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Love_Rhombus)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/75 "2024-04-10T12:31:07Z")
Next, they’ll be dropping needles from planes! ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/76 "2024-04-10T12:37:44Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > This disease is especially scary because people can have it without knowing it. Sidebar: This was a plot point in _The Mirror Crack’d_ by Agatha Christie. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/77 "2024-04-10T12:55:02Z")
> [@Zyada](#): > > (There is an undertone of racism in the anti-vax movement) It’s more than an undertone - a lot of antivax messaging has [a clear component of racism and anti-Semitism](https://www.adl.org/resources/blog/racist-extremist-antisemitic-conspiracy-theories-surround-coronavirus-vaccine). Those calling themselves “purebloods” because they haven’t been vaccinated and fantasizing that their sperm will be in high demand\* are just part of the problem. “The intersection between anti-vaccination and antisemitism has definitely been more prominent since the start of Covid-19,” said Dr. Michael Jensen of the University of Maryland, whose research concentrates on extremist groups and domestic radicalization.” “One of the more fascinating things about the merging of anti-vaccination and antisemitism in the last couple of months has been the diversity of actors that have come together to spread these narratives,” he added, grouping together everyone from white supremacists to militia groups and QAnon affiliates." > **[The fevered world of antisemitic vaccine conspiracies](https://www.codastory.com/disinformation/anti-semitism-anti-vaxxers/)** > > Last week, a coronavirus conspiracy group on Telegram posed a question to thousands of followers: “Is Israel tricking the whole world to add restrictions against non-vaccinated people?” RFK Jr. brought joy to bigots when he pushed the idea that Covid–19 was [“ethnically targeted”](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/robert-f-kennedy-jr-false-claims-covid-19-ethnically-targeted-backlash-antisemitism/), sparing Ashkenazi Jews and Chinese. \*I haven’t yet seen ads for “pureblood” unvaccinated puppies, but it wouldn’t surprise me. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/78 "2024-04-10T17:29:53Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > > [@Beckdawrek](#): > > > > These people need to spend a few months in India. > > Even India isn’t having some of these diseases the way they used to. Polio cases, for example have plummeted (although there are pockets of resistance to vaccination due to some scum bags spreading evil rumors). It’s not India, but vaccination campaigns aren’t helped by things like a fake vaccination campaign organized by the CIA in Abbottabad as a method of searching for Osama bin Laden. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/79 "2024-04-10T18:39:19Z")
I wouldn’t go anywhere near India without every jab I could get. There’s no excuse for having to say “polio has plummeted” not in this day and age. Just frightful. ---
**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979/80 "2024-04-10T18:44:41Z")
> [@Si\_Amigo](#): > > And what is the downside of a dog being autistic? They try to [drown themselves](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/wherein-i-save-an-idiot-dogs-life/711894). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antivaxers-are-now-advocating-for-not-giving-rabies-vaccines-because-it-shortens-the-life-and-causes-autism-in-dogs/999979.md?page=5)