# Antoine Dodson: Hide Your Kids/Hide Your Wife/ Husband Too cause They Raping Everybody Out Here" Guy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039 "2010-08-03T19:12:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/81 "2010-08-04T14:20:55Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > If we find a real rape victim who thinks this is funny, what does that do to your argument? > > Very well. Let’s ask one. Anybody? You’ve come in here and raped this thread. I think that makes all of us victims. I tried to hide my wife from this thread, but you raping everybody out here! Oh, and the song’s still funny. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/82 "2010-08-04T16:16:14Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > > I admit to a certain amount of sarcasm of in this thread, but the subject is a rather sore one with me. But let’s think about this. While there are a few women who make rape jokes, (Wanda Sykes comes to mind) the genre seems to lend itself more to comedy tailored to male tastes, stuff like _Family Guy_ etc. > > > > Now, I happen to like _Family Guy_, but on the whole the only way comedy depending on shock value can keep being funny is to keep topping itself. With guys, joking about rape is not a problem. Guys don’t really have to fear rape. Women do. And there’s a point where shock jokes about rape stop being funny, and start being uncomfortable. > > > > When that line is crossed, and just where that line is is confusing enough, if a woman objects, she is often accused of not having a sense of humor, not being able to take a joke, or indeed, of “being a moral scold”. > > > [@](#): > > > > You’re right, the idea of “rape humor” is a gender politics minefield. The problem here is that this situation has nothing to do with “rape humor.” This joke is not about rape. The source of the humor does not spring from any perceived incongruity in society’s perception of rape. Rape has nothing to do with this situation, except for the incidental fact that this guy got on TV because someone tried to rape his sister. > > > > And some people really don’t have a sense of humor. > > And if this video were nothing but rape jokes, I suspect I would still be accused of not having a sense of humor if I objected to it. > > > [@](#): > > > > Who is this supposed to be addressed at? Me? One of the OPs? Antoine Dodson? > > My, aren’t we paranoid? So quick to defend ourselves. I have no idea what you or Antoine or anyone here finds consistantly funny. Why does it upset you that I don’t find the video funny? > > > [@](#): > > > > By the way, that video that everyone’s cracking up over? Maybe it is more about the heroics of the brother of the intended victim, and the stupidity of the rapist. > > > > It also draws its humor from racial stereotypes. > > > > But that’s another discussion. > > Yes, it does. Gender stereotypes, too. That doesn’t mean its a bad thing. It’s not enough to say it “draws on racial stereotypes.” What does it _say_ about those stereotypes? To me, it appears to draw its alleged humor from the mannerisms of the poor underclass who are isolated in crime ridden housing projects. And that’s funny. Isn’t it? Isn’t it?! BETTER SAY YES, DAMMIT!! ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/83 "2010-08-04T16:21:56Z")
If you think those are the typical mannerisms of poor folks in the ghetto, you are misinformed. He is entirely over the top, his personality is bigger and flouncier than your typical ghetto kid. So, that’s funny. Also, ultimately, they joke isn’t on Antoine. He’s actually a cool cat and a bit of a hero. Lastly, you appear to be freaking out a bit. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/84 "2010-08-04T16:34:18Z")
**Would-be Comic** : Knock knock. **Two Many Cats** : … **WBC** : Knock knock! **TMC** : What? **WBC** : Just say ‘who’s there?’ **TMC** : Why? I know it’s you. **WBC** : It’s a _joke_. **TMC** : Well, I don’t think it’s funny. And… _SCENE_! ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/85 "2010-08-04T16:37:33Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > If you think those are the typical mannerisms of poor folks in the ghetto, you are misinformed. He is entirely over the top, his personality is bigger and flouncier than your typical ghetto kid. So, that’s funny. Also, ultimately, they joke isn’t on Antoine. He’s actually a cool cat and a bit of a hero. > > Lastly, you appear to be freaking out a bit. I know these mannerisms not typical. I know they’re exaggerated. They have to be to produce this sort of mirthful response which I just don’t happen to share. I don’t find the video funny. I’ve been asked why I don’t, and I’ve tried to explain why I don’t. That is, I find the video reminds me of a mindset which annoys me. Does my finding the video annoying mean I’m freaking out? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/86 "2010-08-04T16:39:28Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I know these mannerisms not typical. I know they’re exaggerated. They have to be to produce this sort of mirthful response which I just don’t happen to share. > > I don’t find the video funny. I’ve been asked why I don’t, and I’ve tried to explain why I don’t. That is, I find the video reminds me of a mindset which annoys me. Does my finding the video annoying mean I’m freaking out? No, it’s that you can’t stand the fact that other people find it funny and that you’re not listening to what they’re saying that means you’re freaking out. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/87 "2010-08-04T16:41:30Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I admit to a certain amount of sarcasm of in this thread, but the subject is a rather sore one with me. But let’s think about this. While there are a few women who make rape jokes the genre seems to lend itself more to comedy tailored to male tastes. > > Guys don’t really have to fear rape. Women do. And there’s a point where shock jokes about rape stop being funny, and start being uncomfortable. > > When that line is crossed, and just where that line is is confusing enough, if a woman objects, she is often accused of not having a sense of humor, not being able to take a joke, or indeed, of “being a moral scold”. > > It is a question of degree. Is it wrong to make rape jokes? No. Is it wrong to object to them? No. Is it wrong to insist on telling rape jokes to someone who is offended by them? Yes, definitely. It’s also wrong to insist that there’s something wrong with someone who doesn’t find rape jokes funny. > > You can tell rape jokes. You can tell racist jokes. You can tell homophobic jokes. > > But if that’s the main source of your humor, folks will start to wonder about you. > By the way, that video that everyone’s cracking up over? Maybe it is more about the heroics of the brother of the intended victim, and the stupidity of the rapist. > > It also draws its humor from racial stereotypes. > > But that’s another discussion. So let me see if I’ve got this right… You come into this thread and mischaracterize what’s actually being discussed. When that is pointed out to you, you continue to twist it into vague generalities and try to equate it with “lynching jokes” and are now try to lecture us (me, a woman, included) about crossing the line when all the while none of it has a thing to do with the OP. Then as a throw away, you sort of concede that “Maybe it is more about the heroics of the brother” trying then to blame us for enjoying the humor of “racial stereotypes” but you don’t really have time explain to us exactly how that applies to the OP either. Even though the brother is obviously using that schtick on purpose and in a subsequent interview with the same news station said he was happy that the story was picked up as it was and he enjoyed the auto-tuned piece. And the joke wasn’t on him, it was made by him. Is that about it? Because if I’ve got it wrong (and given the selections from your above post): _“While there are a few women who make rape jokes…” “There’s a point where shock jokes about rape stop being funny, and start being uncomfortable.” “Is it wrong to make rape jokes? No.” "Is it wrong to insist on telling rape jokes to someone who is offended by them? Yes, definitely. “You can tell rape jokes.”_ Maybe you can summarize the “rape joke” in the OP for me. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/88 "2010-08-04T16:47:12Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > **Would-be Comic** : Knock knock. > > **Two Many Cats** : … > > **WBC** : Knock knock! > > **TMC** : What? > > **WBC** : Just say ‘who’s there?’ > > **TMC** : Why? I know it’s you. > > **WBC** : It’s a _joke_. > > **TMC** : Well, I don’t think it’s funny. > And… _SCENE_! While the above post would be quite funny without it, the addition of “And… _SCENE_!” brought a tear of laughter and appreciation to my eye. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/89 "2010-08-04T16:48:36Z")
To summarize the rape joke in the OP for \*\*PlainJane \*\* “Hide your children, hide your wife, husband too 'cause they raping everyone out here…” And so on. Look, go ahead and laugh. I don’t care. But why do you insist that I laugh too? By the way, I find **Vinyl Turnip’s** “knock knock” joke very funny. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/90 "2010-08-04T16:50:40Z")
Nobody is insisting that you laugh. Are you insisting that we all be offended? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/91 "2010-08-04T16:54:40Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > Or, if you prefer, you can address some other part of that rather lengthy post I addressed to you, and not just the final sentence. > > I’d love to, but I’ve just returned from an open mic night, and I’m rather tired. > > Here’s something that would be along the lines of how I would reply:[Someone’s opinion worthier than mine.](http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2007/10/dont-be-this-guy.html) > > P.S. I’ve only experienced ongoing sexual harrassment, and I find the increase in rape jokes disturbing. I can’t imagine what it must be like for someone recovering from such a crime. From your link, this is the very first listed comment: > [@ti](#): > > Ive been raped, and seriously, drop it. It was just a joke. Cant you take a little humor? Get over it. Try and see, i dont know, maybe the FUNNY side of it. Like, come on, the “If she blinks twice” one was off the wall funny. Look at it that way. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/92 "2010-08-04T16:55:53Z")
Bonus points to **Zing** for bringing the term “flouncier” into all of this. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/93 "2010-08-04T16:56:07Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Nah, I think the fact that it is about a topic as ‘solemn’ as rape adds a bit to the humor. > > I wasn’t sure if Ivan was serious with his post. I can’t believe he thinks it isn’t possible in the projects for a guy to blatantly climb into a window and try to harm that girl. I could see that happening, and then him going probably 3 or 4 doors down and getting in his own damn bed. You obviously haven’t met more than a few really strange characters in the hood. Nah. I just think I must have hung around with a better class of criminal. All I can say is, if the person who climbed in there is dumb, how dumb are the home owners/renters leaving a window open where there is a handy ledge? It wasn’t like they were living in Bel Air, where the neighbours don’t need to rob each other. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/94 "2010-08-04T17:04:32Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > All I can say is, if the person who climbed in there is dumb, how dumb are the home owners/renters leaving a window open where there is a handy ledge? How do you know the window was left open? Maybe it was forced open. Or maybe it was open and they felt they could trust their neighborhood. > [@](#): > > It wasn’t like they were living in Bel Air, where the neighbours don’t need to rob each other. Caught this on your edit… classy. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/95 "2010-08-04T17:09:16Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > > I can’t imagine what it must be like for someone recovering from such a crime. > > From your link, this is the very first listed comment: > > > [@ti](#): > > > > Ive been raped, and seriously, drop it. It was just a joke. Cant you take a little humor? Get over it. Try and see, i dont know, maybe the FUNNY side of it. Like, come on, the “If she blinks twice” one was off the wall funny. Look at it that way. And the very sixth listed comment: “Wow, I am really late reading this as it was linked to today’s post, but where did all the rape apologists come from? Was this post linked to some pro-rape site (MRA) or something? Rape jokes are never funny. Ever…” The poster of the comment goes on to talk about beating the shit out of rape apologists and so forth. So you see, not everyone finds rape jokes funny. Why do you folks feel bad if I don’t find rape jokes funny? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/96 "2010-08-04T17:11:37Z")
**Sleeps** asked a good question that could use a direct answer: > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Nobody is insisting that you laugh. Are you insisting that we all be offended? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/97 "2010-08-04T17:13:38Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Why do you folks feel bad if I don’t find rape jokes funny? I don’t think anyone feels bad because you don’t find it funny. I think your drama-rama “oh noes let’s do lynching jokes next!” in your first threadshittery comment is what got people’s attention. Pretending that people are arguing with you simply because you have a different sense of humor is ridiculous and fools nobody no matter how many times you repeat it ---
**Author:** ![ducati](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/cc9497/32.png) [@ducati](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ducati)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/98 "2010-08-04T17:17:56Z")
Jeez. You kids need to lighten up. Toward that end, I give you [Boo Got Shot](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SK6_Di_3O0). Those of us what live in Atlanta and listen to WSB probably remember hearing the original story live on the air. I know I do. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/99 "2010-08-04T17:18:14Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > > > From your link, this is the very first listed comment: > > And the very sixth listed comment: > > “Wow, I am really late reading this as it was linked to today’s post, but where did all the rape apologists come from? Was this post linked to some pro-rape site (MRA) or something? Rape jokes are never funny. Ever…” > > The poster of the comment goes on to talk about beating the shit out of rape apologists and so forth. So you see, not everyone finds rape jokes funny. But what you said was: > [@Two Many Cats](#): > > Ask a real rape victim if this is funny. Well, it was a different person and situation entirely, but right there is a comment, in fact the very first comment, from a rape victim who found the rape jokes funny. Clearly your “case closed” isn’t closed at all, and prolly isn’t even a case. Your attitude is not a universal one, not even for folks who “should” be “enlightened”. > [@Two Many Cats](#): > > Why do you folks feel bad if I don’t find rape jokes funny? Actually, you have yet to show any of us a rape joke that was made by Antoine Dodson. We’ve seen the phrase you quoted, and thus far, AFAICT, you are the _only_ person who has interpreted that as a joke about rape. Those two things (your insistence that a joke took place which no one else concurs & your insistence that such a joke would be inherently “wrong”), along with your seeming inability to drop a subject which is not even under discussion, are why people are singling you out for derision here, not the fact that you “don’t find rape jokes funny”. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/100 "2010-08-04T17:21:55Z")
Ah, forget this high horse, missing-the-point bullshit. Alabama is a gold mine of weird videos, including the all-time classic [Just Like a Mini Mall](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3oHpup-pk) guy. Then there’s this brilliant commercial for [Cullman Liquidation Center](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-RLqLx1iYI). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039.md?page=6)