# Antoine Dodson: Hide Your Kids/Hide Your Wife/ Husband Too cause They Raping Everybody Out Here" Guy **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 3, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039 "2010-08-03T19:12:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/101 "2010-08-04T17:23:41Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Nobody is insisting that you laugh. Are you insisting that we all be offended? No, I’ve stated that over and over. I specifically posted “Is it wrong to make rape jokes? No.” But I also specifically posted: “Is it wrong to object to them? No.” In other words, you have the right to make rape jokes. Just as I have the right to object to them. If you find rape jokes funny, that’s your business. I do not. That’s my business. Now, is the video in question about rape? In a slight way. Enough that I don’t laugh at it. To me, the video is not funny enough to overcome the distaste I naturally have for sexual assault. Even if it’s only attempted sexual assault. This is my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/102 "2010-08-04T17:26:10Z")
I agree, you’re entitled to your opinion. What you fail to see is that you’re here threadshitting and arguing your point. Okay, that’s fine. But if anyone argues back with you then you’re falsely saying that they want YOU to find rape jokes funny. So, you arguing = just giving your opinion Everyone else = trying to make you think rape jokes are funny. Are you seeing the disconnect here? ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/103 "2010-08-04T17:29:19Z")
[quote=“Snowboarder\_Bo, post:99, topic:549039”] > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Actually, you have yet to show any of us a rape joke that was made by Antoine Dodson. We’ve seen the phrase you quoted, and thus far, AFAICT, you are the _only_ person who has interpreted that as a joke about rape. Well, my mistake for thinking that “raping” means, in fact, rape. Still, not funny. ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/104 "2010-08-04T17:30:06Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > > > Nobody is insisting that you laugh. Are you insisting that we all be offended? > > No, I’ve stated that over and over. I specifically posted > > “Is it wrong to make rape jokes? No.” > > But I also specifically posted: > > “Is it wrong to object to them? No.” > > In other words, you have the right to make rape jokes. Just as I have the right to object to them. > > If you find rape jokes funny, that’s your business. I do not. That’s my business. > > Now, is the video in question about rape? In a slight way. Enough that I don’t laugh at it. To me, the video is not funny enough to overcome the distaste I naturally have for sexual assault. Even if it’s only attempted sexual assault. > > This is my opinion, and I’m entitled to it. Just as you are entitled to your own opinion. Great. We’ve all heard your opinion, told you that we don’t think it’s very well reasoned _or even applicable_, and you can now go away. Thanks for the input. Buh-bye now. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/105 "2010-08-04T17:32:24Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Well, my mistake for thinking that “raping” means, in fact, rape. > > Still, not funny. So the mere mention of the word constitutes a joke about it now? ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/106 "2010-08-04T17:32:31Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Well, my mistake for thinking that “raping” means, in fact, rape. > > Still, not funny. Your mistake(s) are numerous, but in this case, your mistakes are that a)it was a joke and b)so as long as the word rape is used, it cannot be funny? This is your new [del]threadshitting[/del]contention? Could you just go away now and start your own little “rape jokes are teh suxxorz” thread please? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/107 "2010-08-04T17:32:50Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > Well, my mistake for thinking that “raping” means, in fact, rape. > > Still, not funny. So, do you always get offended at the slightest hint of a chuckle about subjects you find verboten? Do people walk on eggshells around you? Ever wondered why? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/108 "2010-08-04T17:33:23Z")
People need to get a handle on this quote thing. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/109 "2010-08-04T17:35:10Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > People need to get a handle on this quote thing. What on earth do you mean? :innocent whistle: ---
**Author:** ![jali](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jali](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jali)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/110 "2010-08-04T17:35:15Z")
Leave the cat lady alone folks. Leave her alone. The cats walk on eggshells and we should too. ---
**Author:** ![Two\_Many\_Cats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8dc957/32.png) [@Two\_Many\_Cats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Two_Many_Cats)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/111 "2010-08-04T17:36:22Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I agree, you’re entitled to your opinion. What you fail to see is that you’re here threadshitting and arguing your point. Okay, that’s fine. But if anyone argues back with you then you’re falsely saying that they want YOU to find rape jokes funny. > > So, you arguing = just giving your opinion > Everyone else = trying to make you think rape jokes are funny. > > Are you seeing the disconnect here? When I tried to back out gracefully from this earlier, I was told I must have “no articulatable” ideas about the subject, and only wanted to be a “moral scold”. Now that I’ve tried to articulate my ideas on this matter, I am accused of threadshitting. Are you seeing the disconnect here? ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/112 "2010-08-04T17:37:05Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > In other words, you have the right to make rape jokes. Just as I have the right to object to them. > > If you find rape jokes funny, that’s your business. I do not. That’s my business. **No one made a rape joke**. Not the OP and no one in this thread subsequently. Not even Antoine. He was the brother of the intended victim of rape and as the occupant of the household, a victim himself. He was rightfully (and sarcastically) expressing his outrage over the event. [It was meant as a taunt to the would be rapist](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55mgeVlcL4&feature=related) to show he and his family were not going be traumatized by the rapists actions. Ironically the most distasteful jokes in this thread were made by you. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/113 "2010-08-04T17:37:29Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > > > I agree, you’re entitled to your opinion. What you fail to see is that you’re here threadshitting and arguing your point. Okay, that’s fine. But if anyone argues back with you then you’re falsely saying that they want YOU to find rape jokes funny. > > > > So, you arguing = just giving your opinion > > Everyone else = trying to make you think rape jokes are funny. > > > > Are you seeing the disconnect here? > > When I tried to back out gracefully from this earlier, I was told I must have “no articulatable” ideas about the subject, and only wanted to be a “moral scold”. > > Now that I’ve tried to articulate my ideas on this matter, I am accused of threadshitting. > > Are you seeing the disconnect here? No. As it turns out, both cases are true. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/114 "2010-08-04T17:38:33Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > When I tried to back out gracefully from this earlier, I was told I must have “no articulatable” ideas about the subject, and only wanted to be a “moral scold”. > > Now that I’ve tried to articulate my ideas on this matter, I am accused of threadshitting. > > Are you seeing the disconnect here? Holy shit, you tried backing out of this thread gracefully but people dragged you back in and forced you to make more asinine posts? I had no idea the Dope was resorting to these violent tactics to get people to post.\* Naturally, you’ve made your case! - - this joke in no way minimizes the painful memories of those who’ve been violently forced to post on messageboards in the past ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/115 "2010-08-04T17:42:01Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > And if this video were nothing but rape jokes, I suspect I would still be accused of not having a sense of humor if I objected to it. Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn’t. Since this video is so far removed from your hypothetical, we can’t use the contents of this thread to draw any sort of reliable inference about how you would be treated for objecting to an actual joke about rape. > [@](#): > > My, aren’t we paranoid? So quick to defend ourselves. I have no idea what you or Antoine or anyone here finds consistantly funny. Why does it upset you that I don’t find the video funny? I wasn’t paranoid, I was confused. You kept saying “you” in that post, but it wasn’t clear who “you” referred to, as you were describing behavior that has been exhibited by no one in this thread, or in the video that inspired it. It sounded as if you were continuing an argument you were having with someone else entirely, that had little to nothing to do with this thread. And I’m not upset that you don’t find the video funny. No one cares if you laugh at it or not. It’s the accusation that finding this funny is some sort of moral failing that people are objecting to - the idea that you are somehow a better person for not finding this funny. > [@](#): > > To me, it appears to draw its alleged humor from the mannerisms of the poor underclass who are isolated in crime ridden housing projects. That’s still not an analysis of what the humor says, merely a more specific (and, I think, less accurate) description of what elements the humor is playing off of. What does this video say about the poor underclass isolated in crime ridden housing projects? What parts of it are conveying that message? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/116 "2010-08-04T17:42:37Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > > In other words, you have the right to make rape jokes. Just as I have the right to object to them. > > > > If you find rape jokes funny, that’s your business. I do not. That’s my business. > > **No one made a rape joke**. Not the OP and no one in this thread subsequently. Not even Antoine. He was the brother of the intended victim of rape and as the occupant of the household, a victim himself. He was rightfully (and sarcastically) expressing his outrage over the event. [It was meant as a taunt to the would be rapist](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U55mgeVlcL4&feature=related) to show he and his family were not going be traumatized by the rapists actions. > > Ironically the most distasteful jokes in this thread were made by you. He also expresses shock and disgust that the projects he lives in are the site of violent crimes. In general I think it’s all very relatable and maybe shows a different view to people who might think anybody living in the projects deserves what they get. He and his sister seem to be decent, articulate people. And he definitely gets his point across. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/117 "2010-08-04T17:48:04Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > When I tried to back out gracefully from this earlier, I was told I must have “no articulatable” ideas about the subject, and only wanted to be a “moral scold”. > > Now that I’ve tried to articulate my ideas on this matter, I am accused of threadshitting. > > Are you seeing the disconnect here? Considering that I was the one who called you a moral scold and said you had no articulatable ideas, and someone else entirely who accused you of threadshitting, no, I do not see the disconnect there. I do see a pretty big disconnect between your behavior in this thread, and the concept of doing anything “gracefully,” though. Word of advice: doing things gracefully usually involves a heck of a lot less sarcasm than you’ve employed in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/118 "2010-08-04T17:49:26Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > [@Miller](#): > > > > If we find a real rape victim who thinks this is funny, what does that do to your argument? > > Very well. Let’s ask one. Anybody? Incidentally: any follow up to this one? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/119 "2010-08-04T17:50:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Considering that I was the one who called you a moral scold and said you had no articulatable ideas, and someone else entirely who accused you of threadshitting, no, I do not see the disconnect there. I do see a pretty big disconnect between your behavior in this thread, and the concept of doing anything “gracefully,” though. Word of advice: doing things gracefully usually involves a heck of a lot less sarcasm than you’ve employed in this thread. Oh please, what do you know about humor? Have _you_ participated in open mike night at the comedy club lately? Have you? Have you? ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 4, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039/120 "2010-08-04T17:54:12Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > > [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > > > Very well. Let’s ask one. Anybody? > > Incidentally: any follow up to this one? Post 52? > [@](#): > > I do see a pretty big disconnect between your behavior in this thread, and the concept of doing anything “gracefully,” though. Graceful thread-shitting requires a high degree of finesse. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antoine-dodson-hide-your-kids-hide-your-wife-husband-too-cause-they-raping-everybody-out-here-guy/549039.md?page=7)