# Antonio Brown is a douchebag **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434 "2019-08-09T23:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/61 "2019-08-21T12:54:57Z")
I wonder if AB hasn’t had his bell rung one too many times. Maybe it really is time for him to retire. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/62 "2019-08-21T14:15:00Z")
Almost killing a kid with furniture thrown from a balcony during a tantrum makes AB a colossal douchebag. The helmet thing makes him a laughingstock. Get over it, princess. ---
**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/63 "2019-08-21T14:21:17Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Almost killing a kid with furniture thrown from a balcony during a tantrum makes AB a colossal douchebag. The helmet thing makes him a laughingstock. Get over it, princess. That’s the kind of thing I’m talking about: his behavior is erratic and self-destructive. Sure, some of it is probably arrogance, but he’s impulsively violent and reckless. That makes me wonder if he isn’t already suffering from some form of CTE. Maybe for his sake and the sake of others, retirement is his best option. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/64 "2019-08-21T14:22:01Z")
If all WRs have to use the same helmet, surely they’re at equal disadvantage now? AB wouldn’t be any worse off. ---
**Author:** ![Clawdio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d07c76/32.png) [@Clawdio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clawdio)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/65 "2019-08-21T15:03:58Z")
Two funny side notes to this whole debacle: 1. Its funny how Brown finally deciding to PRACTICE basically gets wall-to-wall coverage on ESPN. 2. Kinda funny how this whole thing makes Gruden look like a clown as he bends over backwards while trying to kiss AB’s ass at every turn. Though i suppose you could argue Gruden was always a bit of a clown. At least the GM almost tried to be a little stern, or threaten to be stern in the future… or something. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2019, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/66 "2019-08-21T16:18:18Z")
Some people think this was all a little manufactured drama for Hard Knocks. > **[The Antonio Brown Helmet Saga Ends With A Wet Thud](https://deadspin.com/the-antonio-brown-helmet-saga-ends-with-a-wet-thud-1837436272)** > > I suppose the only way the Antonio Brown Body Issue could wrap up was with him turning into a penitent and eager company man. He fought the law, the law yawned, took its feet off the desk, mixed itself a drink and hammered him flat, and he went... ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/67 "2019-08-22T06:59:11Z")
On a related note, why are so many divas wide receivers? Is it something about the WR position that fosters a diva attitude? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/68 "2019-08-22T14:07:37Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > On a related note, why are so many divas wide receivers? Is it something about the WR position that fosters a diva attitude? I’ve read conjecture that it may have something to do with the concept that wide receivers, moreso than most other positions in football, are solo performers – they run their routes, without a lot of interaction with their teammates (except, of course, for the quarterback) and they often are engaged in one-to-one battles against single defensive backs. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/69 "2019-08-22T17:45:30Z")
Corner backs are frequently divas as well. They interact more with safeties to share coverage but there tend to be quite a few corners who like the spotlight and can be, let’s say they have strong personalities. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/70 "2019-08-22T20:30:46Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Corner backs are frequently divas as well. They interact more with safeties to share coverage but there tend to be quite a few corners who like the spotlight and can be, let’s say they have strong personalities. That’s a good point, and it’s they who are most likely to be engaging in those one-on-one matchups against diva wide receivers. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Taber](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ac91a4/32.png) [@Taber](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Taber)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/71 "2019-08-22T22:17:46Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > I’ve read conjecture that it may have something to do with the concept that wide receivers, moreso than most other positions in football, are solo performers – they run their routes, without a lot of interaction with their teammates (except, of course, for the quarterback) and they often are engaged in one-to-one battles against single defensive backs. Another theory I’ve heard is that a wide receiver’s success is very dependent on how often the QB throws them the ball. Acting super confident and arrogant sends a message which might influence the QB to throw them the ball more if the QB believes them. Even if WRs aren’t doing it intentionally, if WRs are rewarded for arrogance, then it will select for arrogance in WRs. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/72 "2019-08-22T22:47:03Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Corner backs are frequently divas as well. They interact more with safeties to share coverage but there tend to be quite a few corners who like the spotlight and can be, let’s say they have strong personalities. Oh yeah. DeAngelo Hall, Josh Norman, Darrelle Revis, Richard Sherman, Deion Sanders, Cortland Finnegan, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [August 22, 2019, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/73 "2019-08-22T22:49:25Z")
> [@Taber](#): > > Another theory I’ve heard is that a wide receiver’s success is very dependent on how often the QB throws them the ball. Acting super confident and arrogant sends a message which might influence the QB to throw them the ball more if the QB believes them. Even if WRs aren’t doing it intentionally, if WRs are rewarded for arrogance, then it will select for arrogance in WRs. I’m not sure how much that overrides the QB’s actual knowledge of the WR’s strengths. In Dallas, for instance, Roy Williams had plenty of diva personality, but he played so poorly and dropped so many balls that Tony Romo threw him the ball seldomly, so little so that it was theorized that Romo was deliberately avoiding him. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/74 "2019-08-23T02:00:31Z")
> [@Velocity](#): > > I’m not sure how much that overrides the QB’s actual knowledge of the WR’s strengths. In Dallas, for instance, Roy Williams had plenty of diva personality, but he played so poorly and dropped so many balls that Tony Romo threw him the ball seldomly, so little so that it was theorized that Romo was deliberately avoiding him. As much as a WR relies on the QB, the opposite is true. If the guy you throw to doesn’t catch the ball, you both look bad. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/75 "2019-08-23T04:51:24Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > That’s a good point, and it’s they who are most likely to be engaging in those one-on-one matchups against diva wide receivers. 😉 The CLEAREST example of this mutual behavior in the current NFL is this (YouTube video follows): [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeBWYwDls1A](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeBWYwDls1A) ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/76 "2019-08-23T06:24:59Z")
AB, who arrived to camp in a hot air balloon, goes off about his [circumsized feet.](https://www.12up.com/posts/video-antonio-brown-s-feet-on-hard-knocks-are-freaking-horrific-01dj6zk9c509) Warning: uh, yeah, kinda gross. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/77 "2019-08-23T18:46:17Z")
> [@Clawdio](#): > > Its funny how Brown finally deciding to PRACTICE basically gets wall-to-wall coverage on ESPN. Wasn’t that the whole point of his generating this big controversy? ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/78 "2019-08-23T22:35:07Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Wasn’t that the whole point of his generating this big controversy? Yeah, it’s reminiscent of Terrell Owens wearing no shirt and doing sit-ups while surrounded by a media scrum. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [August 23, 2019, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/79 "2019-08-23T22:55:02Z")
[Allen Iverson lives on.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI) ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2019, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/80 "2019-08-24T05:17:33Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > [Allen Iverson lives on.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGDBR2L5kzI) That’s…not exactly equivalent, given that AI was talking about how he felt regarding practice when the trial of his friend’s murderer had just started a couple days before. Just after the popular clip ends, Iverson speaks on it: > [@Allen Iverson](#): > > “I’m upset for one reason: 'Cause I’m in here. I lost. I lost my best friend. I lost him, and I lost this year. Everything is just going downhill for me, as far as just that. You know, as far as my life. And then I’m dealing with this. … My best friend is dead. Dead. And we lost. And this is what I have to go through for the rest of the summer until the season is all over again.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=5)