# Antonio Brown is a douchebag **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434 "2019-08-09T23:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/81 "2019-09-05T19:35:56Z")
Today exciting installment in the AB saga… > **[Sources: Raiders to suspend AB after tiff with GM](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27543780/sources-raiders-suspend-ab-tiff-gm)** > > Antonio Brown and Raiders GM Mike Mayock got into it Wednesday, and the team is now planning to suspend its star wide receiver, league sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter. Looks like he is going to be suspended, and the Raider reportedly want to get out of his contract altogether. ---
**Author:** ![Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/intergalactic_gladiator/32/112_2.png) [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Intergalactic_Gladiator)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/82 "2019-09-05T19:45:42Z")
That team is set up to collapse so spectacularly that I will be surprised if they don’t create a singularity in the process. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/83 "2019-09-05T20:27:19Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > Today exciting installment in the AB saga… > [Sources -- Raiders to suspend AB after tiff with GM - ESPN](https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27543780/sources-raiders-suspend-ab-tiff-gm) > Looks like he is going to be suspended, and the Raider reportedly want to get out of his contract altogether. It’s going to depend on his contract, and the arbitrator, but I don’t see how getting suspended for arguing with the GM is sufficient willful conduct by Brown to warrant the Raiders clawing back his signing bonus. Then again, I was surprised when the Dolphins were able to do it to Ricky Williams, so what do I know? On the other, other hand, Williams leaving the Dolphins was entirely his own idea. In Brown’s case, the team is suspending him, he isn’t leaving. An arbitrator can certainly rule though that voluntary actions by both players caused their separations. It still looks to me that clawing back his guaranteed money after they suspend him seems excessive, but it depends on the text of his contract. Also, on the one hand, nice move confronting the idiot about his Instagram post, Mayock. Seems like a battle he didn’t have to fight. On the other hand, if it wasn’t this specific incident, I think Brown would have found some other reason to blow up on the Raiders’ staff. What a mess. Brown’s behavior is reminding me a bit of Chris Henry. Just bizarre, and at times violent, irrational outbursts. I hope it ends better for him. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/84 "2019-09-05T21:06:59Z")
I have to believe this is the final “come to Jesus” effort by the Raiders. If AB simmers down, he plays. But if he continues to be furniture-throwing AB, that’s going to be the Raiders cutting their losses to $1M and 2 picks. I still can’t believe what we are watching. This may have been the best Steelers trade since Bettis. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/85 "2019-09-05T21:13:56Z")
Addendum to the AB blow up with Mayock, that I guess wasn’t covered by Hard Knocks: the peacemaker in the ‘heated argument’ between the two was…Vontaze Burfict. [https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1169665597581381632](https://twitter.com/VicTafur/status/1169665597581381632) Vontaze Burfict as peacemaker… I like this timeline. Seriously though, the guy sounds like he needs some serious psychological help. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/86 "2019-09-05T22:07:40Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > That team is set up to collapse so spectacularly that I will be surprised if they don’t create a singularity in the process. You know, the Raiders’ biggest fan club is a group calling themselves the “Black Hole”, so I think this team is uniquely prepared for that possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2019, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/87 "2019-09-05T22:46:05Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > It’s going to depend on his contract, and the arbitrator, but I don’t see how getting suspended for arguing with the GM is sufficient willful conduct by Brown to warrant the Raiders clawing back his signing bonus. Then again, I was surprised when the Dolphins were able to do it to Ricky Williams, so what do I know? > > On the other, other hand, Williams leaving the Dolphins was entirely his own idea. In Brown’s case, the team is suspending him, he isn’t leaving. An arbitrator can certainly rule though that voluntary actions by both players caused their separations. It still looks to me that clawing back his guaranteed money after they suspend him seems excessive, but it depends on the text of his contract. > > Also, on the one hand, nice move confronting the idiot about his Instagram post, Mayock. Seems like a battle he didn’t have to fight. On the other hand, if it wasn’t this specific incident, I think Brown would have found some other reason to blow up on the Raiders’ staff. What a mess. > > Brown’s behavior is reminding me a bit of Chris Henry. Just bizarre, and at times violent, irrational outbursts. I hope it ends better for him. His signing bonus is only $1 mil. They may try to go after that but it’s a hard fight. What they are really looking at is the $30 mil in guaranteed money. If he is on the active roster on Sunday he is owed $14 mil for 2019. To get out of that they can suspend him and then drop him. I’m sure it can be fought but they are in a much better position. Source : Mike Tannenbaum’s twitter. Personally I think threatening to punch the GM in the face is more than “arguing.” It can also be argued that Brown did not fulfill his part of the contract by refusing to practice. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/88 "2019-09-06T11:11:12Z")
I do so enjoy the exceptionally-paranoid conspiracy theory that AB is engineering [his way to Foxboro](https://nesn.com/2019/09/nfl-fans-already-worried-antonio-brown-is-going-to-land-with-patriots/). 🙂 They hate us because they ain’t us, as the saying goes. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/89 "2019-09-06T12:55:28Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I do so enjoy the exceptionally-paranoid conspiracy theory that AB is engineering [his way to Foxboro](https://nesn.com/2019/09/nfl-fans-already-worried-antonio-brown-is-going-to-land-with-patriots/). 🙂 > > They hate us because they ain’t us, as the saying goes. I wonder whether he just doesn’t want to play football for anyone anymore: Steelers, Raiders, Pats, the local Y flag football league? In hindsight, the cryotherapy foot injury is looking more and more like the scene in so many war movies where guys are shooting themselves in the feet to get out of having to fight. Not kidding, I’m expecting the next major news blurb about him to be that he’s seriously hurt himself and/or other people. I’ve a real bad feeling about how all this is going to turn out. OTOH, Terrell Owens is still with us, so I dunno. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/90 "2019-09-06T13:13:08Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > I do so enjoy the exceptionally-paranoid conspiracy theory that AB is engineering [his way to Foxboro](https://nesn.com/2019/09/nfl-fans-already-worried-antonio-brown-is-going-to-land-with-patriots/). 🙂 > > They hate us because they ain’t us, as the saying goes. LOL. That “article” (I use the quotes, because it’s largely a collection of random social media posts) seems more like something written by an attention whore Patriots fan who’s looking to feed into the sense of smug superiority that permeates the Boston sporting landscape. Seems like it’s working. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/91 "2019-09-06T13:19:23Z")
If it’s even inducing false-flag into the conspiracy theory, then it’s even more enjoyable. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/92 "2019-09-06T14:53:00Z")
Keeps on giving: [Antonio Brown unfollows Raiders, Derek Carr on Instagram](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/antonio-brown-unfollows-raiders-derek-carr-on-instagram-in-favor-of-another-team-and-qb-142810913.html) While this is entertaining as hell, I hope this is just a natural progression from a self-centered twit whom nobody has said “no” to in half a decade, to a full-fledged black hole of prima-donna WR narcissism, rather than evidence of some sort of personality change due to CTE. Because then I would feel bad about my schadenfreude. . I will root against the Raiders regardless of what they do with AB. Because they still have Vontanze “the peacemaker” Burfict. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/93 "2019-09-06T15:01:59Z")
He’s an egomaniac, a complete ass, and an insufferable blowhard. He’s what I refer to as a “Neo-Aristotelian” because he truly believes the entire universe revolves around him. I can’t imagine anyone more damaging to the team mentality. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/94 "2019-09-06T15:31:57Z")
That. He isn’t the typical “attitude problem”, a supremely talented athlete who expresses frustration at wasting his prime with a losing team that has no intent of ever going for it, and is perfectly fine once he gets to a winner. This guy is just a jerk. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/95 "2019-09-06T15:47:26Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > I will root against the Raiders regardless of what they do with AB. Because they still have Vontanze “the peacemaker” Burfict. As a Pittsburgher, I’d root against the Raiders if the team cured cancer and brought peace to the Middle East. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/96 "2019-09-06T16:00:48Z")
It is the moral duty of \*any \*conscious adult to root against the Raiders. That’s been true for decades. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/97 "2019-09-06T16:02:50Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > Pittsburgher No offense but to me that sounds like a very unappealing lunch menu item. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/98 "2019-09-06T16:56:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > No offense but to me that sounds like a very unappealing lunch menu item. ☹ I’ve been in many western Pennsylvania eateries that offer a “PittsBurger”, made to fit their idea of what a PittsBurger should be. ---
**Author:** ![Isosleepy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/isosleepy/32/479_2.png) [@Isosleepy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isosleepy)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/99 "2019-09-06T17:40:08Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > As a Pittsburgher, I’d root against the Raiders if the team cured cancer and brought peace to the Middle East. 😃 If they do _both_, I’d have to start reconsidering. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/100 "2019-09-06T18:16:56Z")
Aaaaaaaand now he’s issued “an emotional apology” and is going to play on Monday :rolleyes::rolleyes:. Can’t wait until he’s got his money and does the next stupid thing because he’s not being thrown to enough or something. Money is all he cares about anyway so…um…good job? This isn’t the thread for this at all, but AB apparently yelled at Mayock and called him a “cracker”. Granted, if I was ever called that I’d probably laugh it off, or at least give a “:dubious: really?”, but that’s still a racist term and AB is just gonna get away with it scot free. If the shoe was on the other (frostbitten) foot? Hoooooooo boy [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=6)