# Antonio Brown is a douchebag **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [August 9, 2019, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434 "2019-08-09T23:03:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/141 "2019-09-08T03:33:56Z")
The Patriots are welcome to him. I’m sure they’ll love it when he starts driving down the streets of Boston at 100+ mph and throwing furniture off of a balconies. > [@Atamasama](#): > > No offense but to me that sounds like a very unappealing lunch menu item. ☹ Oh man, now I’m jonesing for a Primantis “[Pittsburgher Cheese Steak](https://pennwich.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/primanti-bros-pittsburgher-cheese-steak/)”. ---
**Author:** ![Bootis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e8c25b/32.png) [@Bootis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bootis)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/142 "2019-09-08T04:17:43Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I’ll take a little of Doors 2 & 3. Bellichek isn’t giving 9 million guaranteed (his signing bonus, AIUI.) to a head case unless he’s certain the guy will play. And he’d only be certain the guy will play if he was following all this along from a close position. If the NFL had balls, they’d be up in AB’s, Rosenhaus’s, and Patriots employees’ phones looking for evidence of tampering. Because I think they’d find some. > > Enjoy your lockout NFL. I can’t see 28-29 owner groups, especially long term ones like the Rooneys, agreeing to get played by players in this fashion anymore. This isn’t the NBA. If Brown’s goal all along was to get released and go to NE there’s really no need for NE to tamper, but just wait out the madness and take the opportunity if it comes, knowing full well the risk of tampering would bring an enormous investigation, distraction, loss of draft picks, etc. Why bother with all that if you get him either way? It’s a risk to sign him, but the downside if it doesn’t work out is a loss of a few million, they’ll release him before he can cause much damage. The upside is obviously worth that risk, for NE at least. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/143 "2019-09-08T05:26:10Z")
> [@Isosleepy](#): > > 9 years from now, AB is writing his memoirs, and we learn for sure this was the plan all along. All of football-loving America got played, masterfully, by this recent HOF first-ballot inductee, 3 time Superbowl mvp, and hippo-costume wearing winner of “the masked singer”. Except not in any actual time-line. Why would he wait 9 years? I wouldn’t be shocked to see all that in a series of tweets tomorrow. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/144 "2019-09-08T05:27:54Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Oh man, now I’m jonesing for a Primantis “[Pittsburgher Cheese Steak](https://pennwich.wordpress.com/2012/02/26/primanti-bros-pittsburgher-cheese-steak/)”. I won’t lie. I would totally try that thing. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/145 "2019-09-08T12:07:20Z")
> [@mhendo](#): > > **ElvisL1ves** will no doubt be in to explain very soon why that is impossible Oh, sure, it’s possible. But let Roger try to do anything about it, in the wake of his pathetic Deflategate efforts, so easily disproven by any high schooler who passed Chemistry. And what’s the worst case anyway, they have to give up a first-rounder? If AB’s ready to play The System, he’s worth it. Now, what are they going to do with both him and Gordon (and soon Harry) running deep routes? Throw out there instead of over the middle like they generally do? > [@](#): > > and also to somehow handwave away his “conspiracy theory” scoffing from the previous page. Sweet, sweet tears … 😉 The Steelers and the Raiders _both_ getting screwed, however it happens, is of course a Very Good Thing. BTW, Bill can put up with a lot of posturing and other off-the-field stuff (even from Aaron Hernandez) but doesn’t keep players who start disrupting the team \*on \*the field (Albert Haynesworth was cut after only a few games because of that, btw - Jamie Collins is back but apparently enough years in Cleveland taught him a lesson). He no doubt has a way not to pay AB if his latest act turns out not be just an act. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/146 "2019-09-08T12:13:22Z")
Reported for thread title change to \*\*Antonio Brown is The Patriot’s douchebag. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2019, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/147 "2019-09-08T15:37:01Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > Oh, sure, it’s possible. But let Roger try to do anything about it, in the wake of his pathetic Deflategate efforts, so easily disproven by any high schooler who passed Chemistry. And what’s the worst case anyway, they have to give up a first-rounder? If AB’s ready to play The System, he’s worth it. Now, what are they going to do with both him and Gordon (and soon Harry) running deep routes? Throw out there instead of over the middle like they generally do? > > Sweet, sweet tears … 😉 The Steelers and the Raiders _both_ getting screwed, however it happens, is of course a Very Good Thing. > > BTW, Bill can put up with a lot of posturing and other off-the-field stuff (even from Aaron Hernandez) but doesn’t keep players who start disrupting the team \*on \*the field (Albert Haynesworth was cut after only a few games because of that, btw - Jamie Collins is back but apparently enough years in Cleveland taught him a lesson). He no doubt has a way not to pay AB if his latest act turns out not be just an act. The Steelers didn’t get screwed. They got rid of a cancer that spoiled their season and used the picks they got to trade up and get Devin Bush. Seriously, no complaints here. Pittsburgh will be just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/148 "2019-09-09T15:19:55Z")
Interesting article from TMZ of all places. > **[Antonio Brown's Phone Recording Could Be a Huge Legal & NFL Problem](https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/09/antonio-brown-phone-recording-jon-gruden-oakland-raiders/)** > > AB's phone call could come back to haunt him. If AB was in California at the time he recorded his phone call with Gruden, and Gruden wasn’t aware of it (and it seems like he wasn’t) then AB might have broken state law. If the Raiders wanted to see him punished for his shenanigans, Gruden might press charges, and that may lead to a league suspension pending investigation. That could be one way for Oakland to retaliate. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/149 "2019-09-09T15:35:37Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The Steelers didn’t get screwed. They got rid of a cancer that spoiled their season and used the picks they got to trade up and get Devin Bush. Seriously, no complaints here. Pittsburgh will be just fine. The Raiders do have a good claim to get equivalent picks back from Pittsburgh, if they want to push it. Now, let’s see what either team can do with less talent on the field. BTW, watching the game last night \*must \*have helped him realize the Pats don’t really need him. ---
**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/150 "2019-09-09T15:57:42Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > Interesting article from TMZ of all places. > [Antonio Brown's Phone Recording Could Be a Huge Legal & NFL Problem](https://www.tmz.com/2019/09/09/antonio-brown-phone-recording-jon-gruden-oakland-raiders/) > > If AB was in California at the time he recorded his phone call with Gruden, and Gruden wasn’t aware of it (and it seems like he wasn’t) then AB might have broken state law. If the Raiders wanted to see him punished for his shenanigans, Gruden might press charges, and that may lead to a league suspension pending investigation. That could be one way for Oakland to retaliate. That was actually the first thing I thought of when I heard of his recorded conversation with Gruden. Federal law requires that only one party to a conversation agree to the recording, so under federal law, and the laws of most states, his recording would be fine. But there are about a dozen states, and California is one, that require all-party consent to audio recording. The main exception in California law is for cases when you have no expectation of privacy, but that’s definitely not going to apply to a person-to-person phone call between two private individuals. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/151 "2019-09-09T16:02:30Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > BTW, watching the game last night \*must \*have helped him realize the Pats don’t really need him. But the Steelers might. That ship though has already sailed, hit an iceberg, sank, and then James Cameron made a movie about it. ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/152 "2019-09-09T23:39:32Z")
> [@espn](#): > > Patriots added an option year for Antonio Brown in 2020 at $20 million which becomes guaranteed if executed … ---
**Author:** ![UCBearcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/77aa72/32.png) [@UCBearcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UCBearcats)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/153 "2019-09-11T00:43:17Z")
> **[Antonio Brown Accused of Rape in a Lawsuit (Published 2019)](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html)** > > The Patriots receiver is accused of three incidents of sexual assault, in 2017 and 2018, against a woman who attended college with him. This just came up regard Brown. It is behind a paywall, but it is the Times. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/154 "2019-09-11T00:45:04Z")
> [@UCBearcats](#): > > [https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/sports/football/antonio-brown-sexual-asssault-patriots.html) > > This just came up regard Brown. It is behind a paywall, but it is the Times. Well, since it’s behind a paywall, perhaps you could tell us a little bit more about it. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![2gigch1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/2gigch1/32/3313_2.png) [@2gigch1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2gigch1)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/155 "2019-09-11T00:47:10Z")
BREAKING: Patriots WR Antonio Brown accused of three separate incidents of sexual assault and rape, according to federal lawsuit filed Tuesday: [https://nyti.ms/2lKSCx1](https://t.co/wFAijgADJK) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/156 "2019-09-11T01:14:08Z")
> [@2gigch1](#): > > BREAKING: Patriots WR Antonio Brown accused of three separate incidents of sexual assault and rape, according to federal lawsuit filed Tuesday: [https://nyti.ms/2lKSCx1](https://t.co/wFAijgADJK) > Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I read the article in The NY Times. It’s pretty convincing and I’m curious about what the Patriots knew when they signed him. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/157 "2019-09-11T01:45:17Z")
The hits just keep on coming, don’t they? I’m beginning to wonder if he’ll ever play another down in the NFL. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/158 "2019-09-11T02:21:19Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The hits just keep on coming, don’t they? I’m beginning to wonder if he’ll ever play another down in the NFL. At this point I’d bet on “no”. This might be the final nail in the coffin, or maybe railroad spike. ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/159 "2019-09-11T03:34:13Z")
Non-paywall article on [SI.com](http://SI.com), which quotes passages from the lawsuit: [https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/10/antonio-brown-sexual-assault-accusations-patriots](https://www.si.com/nfl/2019/09/10/antonio-brown-sexual-assault-accusations-patriots) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434/160 "2019-09-11T04:33:10Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > The hits just keep on coming, don’t they? I’m beginning to wonder if he’ll ever play another down in the NFL. I know it’s gauche to to say it, but the timing on this filing is a bit suspect. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/antonio-brown-is-a-douchebag/838434.md?page=9)