# Ants in Genitals Ark Park grifting continues **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 16, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189 "2015-05-16T18:50:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2015, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/41 "2015-05-19T23:41:58Z")
The trucks are drawn by oxen. Very sullen oxen. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/42 "2015-05-20T02:00:41Z")
The idea of a Christian themed park isn’t a bad one. It’s been done in Orlando, Florida and Buenos Aires, Argentina. The Buddhist one in Vietnam is most kinds of awesome. Cite: [http://national.deseretnews.com/article/1754/5-religious-theme-parks-you-have-to-see-to-believe.html](http://national.deseretnews.com/article/1754/5-religious-theme-parks-you-have-to-see-to-believe.html) Williamstown, Kentucky has a population under 4000. But it’s halfway between Cincinnati and Lexington and within 2 hours of Louisville [I’d guess](https://www.google.com/maps/place/Williamstown,+KY/@38.6371934,-84.566035,9z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x88418b45ca0e50f3:0x79e37c4391e0fb49?hl=en). Are there other tourist destinations in the area? I don’t want to miss the point though. Floating junk bonds to unsophisticated investors reeks of scamming. While the proposal isn’t ludicrous on its face, the execution seems highly dubious. The ark naturally has few windows. I have to wonder about the treatment of the animals inside. Do they plant to be accredited by the [Association of Zoos and Aquariums](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Association_of_Zoos_and_Aquariums)? I’m guessing not. Only 10% of US animal exhibitors are accredited, though that includes a lot of roadside operations. [About AZA Accreditation | Association of Zoos & Aquariums](https://www.aza.org/what-is-accreditation/) That said, the ASPCA (American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals) opposes unaccredited animal exhibitors: [INDENT]The ASPCA is opposed to the cruelty that is inherent in using either wild animals or livestock in unaccredited zoos, roadside menageries, petting zoos, game farms and the like, and in attractions such as elephant rides, camel rides, and llama and pony rides that either stand alone or are attached to such venues. [/INDENT] (Pony rides are verboten?) At any rate transparently unethical moralists, if that is what Ken Ham is, fascinate me. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/43 "2015-05-20T05:25:41Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > (Pony rides are verboten?) If we’re talking about “pony rides” in which four or more ponies are secured together on a metal frame that forces them to walk in a circle, many animal rights groups are concerned that the ponies are forced to walk too long without a sufficient number of breaks. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 10:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/44 "2015-05-20T10:35:45Z")
They’re going to have actual animals on this ark?! ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/45 "2015-05-20T13:22:11Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > But will there be an equal number of dinosaurs on this new ark? A pair of each, and seven of every clean dinosaur. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Bredin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/96bed5/32.png) [@John\_Bredin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Bredin)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/46 "2015-05-20T15:29:00Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > A pair of each, and seven of every clean dinosaur. [del]We’re[/del]They’re going to need a bigger boat. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/47 "2015-05-20T17:43:21Z")
I’ve been hearing about this off an on, and it’s hard to remember where the bits came from. Answers in Genesis (AIG) is a non-profit and a ministry. The Ark Encounter is supposed to be a for-profit corporation, eligible for tax incentives. AIG can discriminate to their hearts’ content. The Ark Encounter, not so much. Ark Encounter is arguing that it can hire co-religionists only - because religious organizations are allowed to do that. And they may be right. Kentucky is not saying that they can’t, just that if they do so it dis-allows them for tax incentives. The arguments started when the Ark advertised online for a CAD tech. [The online application included a lot of religious questions.](http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2014/09/does-aig-lie-ab.html) As you can see, they don’t just require all workers to swear to being Christian, they have to swear to being young earth creationists. I’m unclear which half of the AIG/Ark divide issued bonds, but I’m assuming that non-profits don’t get to do that. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/48 "2015-05-20T18:01:36Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > A pair of each, and seven of every clean dinosaur. Where do you find someone with experience in cleaning dinosaurs? ---
**Author:** ![hotflungwok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/edb3f5/32.png) [@hotflungwok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hotflungwok)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/49 "2015-05-20T18:24:00Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Where do you find someone with experience in cleaning dinosaurs? Any college paleontology department? ---
**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/50 "2015-05-20T20:22:25Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Where do you find someone with experience in cleaning dinosaurs? The Flintstones? ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/51 "2015-05-20T21:14:43Z")
> [@Yllaria](#): > > The arguments started when the Ark advertised online for a CAD tech. [The online application included a lot of religious questions.](http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2014/09/does-aig-lie-ab.html) As you can see, they don’t just require all workers to swear to being Christian, they have to swear to being young earth creationists. I’ve never heard of **Salvation testimony** , but obviously can guess what it is [ Hallelujah ! ). In my country the official _ **state church** _ would be _flummoxed_ by anyone volunteering such stuff ---- although they go on a bit about truthfully declaring mental illness \*, which may be relevant. The application form for aspiring Anglican clergy barely mentions religion _even_. **[Advice on the Church of England Common Application Form](http://anglicansonline.org/vacancies/diolinks/england-advice.html)**. - Without knocking religion, it used to be a tradition in the last two centuries that nutters were drawn to religion, leading to some reserve by the Anglican authorities of the value loonies would add to the experience. ---
**Author:** ![Claverhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/13edae/32.png) [@Claverhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Claverhouse)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/52 "2015-05-20T21:22:17Z")
By nutters, I mean the more harmless monomaniacs and staring obsessives, not the violent crazies and drooling imbeciles of previous centuries such were as common in the puritan movement, and parts of the Roman Catholic ministry. Many of whom had matches. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2015, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/53 "2015-05-20T22:33:54Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > A pair of each, and seven of every clean dinosaur. Like [_Soapasaurus_,](http://www.soapasaurus.com/) maybe? ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/54 "2015-05-21T00:48:44Z")
Truckasaurus got left behind because it was Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY!!! ---
**Author:** ![Twoflower](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/twoflower/32/22_2.png) [@Twoflower](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Twoflower)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/55 "2015-05-21T01:27:09Z")
It will be entertaining to hear their excuses why they can’t fit every species on earth into it. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/56 "2015-05-21T04:48:04Z")
> [@Twoflower](#): > > It will be entertaining to hear their excuses why they can’t fit every species on earth into it. It’s in the OP. The answer is building codes. The mean 'ol government isn’t any fun at all. I looked over their alleged plans and a majority of the floorspace appears to be devoted to something other than animals, which is a good thing in my view. Some will be animatronic. > **[About the Life-Size Noah’s Ark](https://arkencounter.com/about/)** > > Ark Encounter features a full-size Noah’s Ark, built according to the dimensions given in the Bible. The ark is suppose to be 85 feet wide. Say that’s 84 feet on the inside. Assuming the plan above is to scale (admittedly a big if) then the cages will be about 15.5 feet deep, which sounds a little cozy for a bear. [This document](http://lionstigersandbears.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/housing1.pdf) recommends an outdoor area of 1 acre per bear, though some of the quarters can be as small at 10x10 feet. Will they be allowed outside ever? I mean the original pair was cooped up for a mere 40 days, right? I’m not too worried though. I trust the Association of Zoos and Aquariums can refer them to humane consultants: somebody as upstanding as Ken Ham won’t want engage in animal cruelty. I see from the internet that a fair number of animal advocacy organizations go by the Noah’s Ark moniker. Could be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/57 "2015-05-21T05:59:58Z")
Wouldn’t be enough room for all the species of beetles. For which the Creator had an inordinate fondness. Never mind the ring-tailed vinagaroon or the _chupacabra_! ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/58 "2015-05-21T06:28:03Z")
Wonder where they would keep the termites? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/59 "2015-05-21T13:36:40Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Wonder where they would keep the termites? The lunch room. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/60 "2015-05-21T14:22:15Z")
> [@WolfpackJeep](#): > > Wonder where they would keep the termites? Is that bar tender? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189.md?page=4)