# Ants in Genitals Ark Park grifting continues

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 16, 2015, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189 "2015-05-16T18:50:08Z")\
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**Author:** ![Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba9def/32.png) [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Asking_Questions)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/61 "2015-05-21T14:52:45Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wouldn’t be enough room for all the species of beetles. For which the Creator had an inordinate fondness. Never mind the ring-tailed vinagaroon or the _chupacabra_!

Cats and rats and elephants, as sure as you’re born.  
You’re never gonna see no unicorn.

Or chupacabra.

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**Author:** ![Gedd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gedd/32/4938_2.png) [@Gedd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gedd)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/62 "2015-05-21T15:04:24Z")

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> [@Just\_Asking\_Questions](#):
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> Cats and rats and elephants, as sure as you’re born.  
> You’re never gonna see no unicorn.
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> Or chupacabra.

Or [Northwest Pacific Tree Octopus](http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/)?

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/63 "2015-05-21T16:15:19Z")

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I’m still waiting for an explanation of the piglet copulation.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/64 "2015-05-21T17:12:05Z")

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Lawyers for Winnie the Pooh have obtained a restraining order sealing the records.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/65 "2015-05-21T17:14:28Z")

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Oh, _that_ Piglet. I thought it was just generic piglets.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/66 "2015-05-22T01:45:30Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Wouldn’t be enough room for all the species of beetles. For which the Creator had an inordinate fondness. Never mind the ring-tailed vinagaroon or the _chupacabra_!

They say that they only need to bring in 2000 species: the rest have evolved since then. I know.

> **[ARK - Could Noah's Ark really hold all the animals God sent? -...](https://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html)**
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> Discussion about how Noah's Ark as described in the Bible could could have held and supported so many animals.

> **[Noah's Ark Theme Park Runs Into Tricky Questions](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/noahs-ark-theme-park_n_3367579)**
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> Noah's Ark Theme Park Runs Into Tricky Questions

If they present it without elephants, giraffes or lions I think most kids will notice. They are going to need a lot of taxidermists. This exhibit could really mess with my suspension of disbelief.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/67 "2015-05-22T06:57:20Z")

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The story of Noah and the ark is entirely true of course, though it suffers from an accumulation of transcription errors. An older and more accurate version is [Atra-Hasis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atra-Hasis), an 18th century BCE Sumerian epic. In it, the [Great Simulator](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=756979) Enlil chooses a sample frame of 1200 years, with the subjects euthanized with a standard aquatic wash. Enki, a research associate on the Conscious Subjects Committee, takes issue with this protocol but agrees not to disclose it.

In secret Enki tips off Atrahasis (trans: Noah), telling him to build a boat to escape the planned flood and to take along some of his farm animals and seeds. Atrahasis and his family survive, but Enlil finds out about the breach. He is furious as Enki for tampering with his protocol and violating his promise. Enki rules lawyers the situation and notes that he acted to preserve conscious life. (Not living beings like Enlil or Enki of course, but rather crude pre-living entities, merely conscious and limited to 3 dimensions.) They work out an arrangement and even have the art department create a pleasing supra-liminal symbololink to the contract involving the reflection, refraction and dispersion of light in water droplets.

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**Author:** ![The\_Angry\_Badger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b38774/32.png) [@The\_Angry\_Badger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Angry_Badger)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/68 "2015-05-22T08:41:07Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> They say that they only need to bring in 2000 species: the rest have evolved since then. I know.

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> “If you start with a wolf, you can basically generate all of these dog-like kinds,” said Marsh.

I just how the best explanation these guys can come up with to explain the ark story is… evolution. 😃

> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> [ARK - Could Noah's Ark really hold all the animals God sent? - ChristianAnswers.Net](http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c013.html)

The amount of stupid in that article was painful. I wouldn’t exactly expect proper scientific rigour on a site like that, but the article is full of (indeed, it relies on) all the usual ‘scientists believe that’ and ‘it is evident’ stuff that people like to use when they don’t have any actual evidence.  
Here’s a better, more science based article on the ark story (It’s a long read, but worth it!): [http://ncse.com/cej/4/1/impossible-voyage-noahs-ark](http://ncse.com/cej/4/1/impossible-voyage-noahs-ark). Let’s just say that one is a little more skeptical about Noahs’ chances. 😉

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**Author:** ![pythonzzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@pythonzzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pythonzzz)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/69 "2015-05-22T11:38:48Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> They say that they only need to bring in 2000 species: the rest have evolved since then. I know.
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> If they present it without elephants, giraffes or lions I think most kids will notice. They are going to need a lot of taxidermists. This exhibit could really mess with my suspension of disbelief.

They can’t forget the “plushy kind”… [Fundies Say the Damnedest Things: Noah brought puppet "kind" on the ark???](http://stupidfundies.blogspot.com/2012/11/noah-brought-puppet-kind-on-ark.html)

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**Author:** ![dasmoocher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@dasmoocher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dasmoocher)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/70 "2015-05-22T13:39:17Z")

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> [@Gedd](#):
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> Or [Northwest Pacific Tree Octopus](http://zapatopi.net/treeoctopus/)?

You’d need to keep them separated from the Sasquatch.

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/71 "2015-05-23T20:33:14Z")

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Excessive fan wank ruins a good story. Theologically, it obscures wider truths. In medieval times theologians spoke of the four senses of Scripture: they are literal, allegorical, moral, and anagogical. The last term refers to hopes of heaven or hope in general. One relates to history, the other three relate to spirituality. Ham’s animatronics and statues only speak to the first category, poorly.

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**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/72 "2015-05-23T22:34:05Z")

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I _vaguely_ think I may have seen a film about Noah once. Rather like as if a christian group — not Hollywood nor an Independent — had produced it, if they do indeed go in for that sort of thing; possibly with amateur actors and with the production values of **The Watchtower** artists. Incredibly tedious with bearded chaps, Noah’s sons, staring meaningfully at each other and their parent for long stretches. Not much dialogue. A sort of mini-epic done badly.

However, I may be imagining I saw this, rather like one of the dreams transmitted from underground R’lyeh.  
I truly hope so.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/73 "2015-05-24T00:39:11Z")

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From [this](http://www.christianpost.com/news/ken-ham-says-critics-who-ask-why-money-raised-to-build-the-ark-encounter-isnt-going-to-the-poor-instead-object-to-the-bibles-gospel-message-139445/)article:

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> “The Ark project (like the Creation Museum) will in a professional, powerful, and gracious way present the truth of God’s Word and the Gospel. Sadly, even some people claiming to be Christians complain about the Ark project and that the money should be given to the poor instead. Such people either don’t understand or don’t seem to care about the millions who will be reached with the most important food in the universe —the spiritual food of the saving Gospel — the very message that their eternal life depends on,” he added.

So not believing in our creationist theme park is worse than starving to death.

But wait, there’s more

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> The AiG President has also maintained that, despite false information in the media, AiG is not looking for money from the state to build the Ark Encounter, but has filed a lawsuit asking to be included in Kentucky’s tax rebate program.
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> The lawsuit is in response to Kentucky imposing conditions such as prohibiting religious preference in hiring workers for the project, a decision that Ham said is against the law.
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> “The state’s new conditions are clearly illegal. We can cite both federal and state laws that permit religious preference in hiring, like the 1964 Civil Rights Act. That’s why atheist groups can and do discriminate in their hiring,” he explained back in December.

I love how the religious righteous think that atheists have organized cabals to oppose their every move. I don’t think I’ve ever seen any corporations or businesses identify themselves as atheist. Maybe the fact that they don’t exclusively hire Liberty University graduates automatically makes them atheist.

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**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-ark-park-grifting-continues/720189/74 "2015-05-24T14:40:08Z")

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Heck, they probably think that a biotech company is engaging in “discriminatory hiring practices” by turning down a Liberty U young Earth creationist for a highly qualified candidate from a real university.

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