# Ants in Genitals disses the ALS Challenge **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 21, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114 "2014-08-21T18:10:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pythonzzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@pythonzzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pythonzzz)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/1 "2014-08-21T18:10:03Z")
Ken Ham, the lead piglet rapist at Answers in Genesis and the Creationist “Museum” has posted a screed against the ALS Challenge for research. Written by one of the creation “science” researchers, “Dr.” Georgia Purdom, employed by this sham institution, it morphs from discussing current ALS fundraising efforts into an incoherent babble stream of creospeak and abortion propaganda. > **[Ken Ham](https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/)** > [@](#): > > Pouring Cold Water on the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge > Published on August 20, 2014 in Science. > > … > > But there is a moral concern that comes with supporting research: should a Christian give money to an organization that would seek to find a cure by violating biblical ethics? In the specific context, the ALS Association that is promoting the frigid challenge promotes an unethical search for a cure. Many researchers are willing to use embryonic stem cells and cells taken from “electively aborted” fetuses to search for a cure.1 Undoubtedly, some of the money generated through this challenge will end up supporting these forms of research in one way or another. While it is difficult to make direct connections between the money you give and which trials those dollars go to support, the ALS Association does provide funding for research involving embryonic stem cells, including from aborted children. On the ALS Association page discussing stem cell research we read the following: > \* Can’t we just gather up all these brainless fundies and send them off on an ice floe? No great loss. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/2 "2014-08-21T18:14:07Z")
> [@pythonzzz](#): > > Ken Ham, the lead piglet rapist at Answers in Genesis and the Creationist “Museum” has posted a screed against the ALS Challenge for research. > > Written by one of the creation “science” researchers, “Dr.” Georgia Purdom, employed by this sham institution, it morphs from discussing current ALS fundraising efforts into an incoherent babble stream of creospeak and abortion propaganda. > > [Ken Ham | Answers in Genesis](http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/georgia-purdom/2014/08/20/pouring-cold-water-on-the-als-ice-bucket-challenge/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+GeorgiaPurdom+%28Dr.+Georgia+Purdom%27s+Blog%29) > > Can’t we just gather up all these brainless fundies and send them off on an ice floe? No great loss. Won’t someone think of the ice floes? ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/3 "2014-08-21T18:26:06Z")
> [@pythonzzz](#): > > Written by one of the creation “science” researchers, “Dr.” Georgia Purdom, employed by this sham institution, it morphs from discussing current ALS fundraising efforts into an incoherent babble stream of creospeak and abortion propaganda. Point of order - Georgia Purdom is a nutjob; however, her Ph.D. is real, from OSU. Ironic quotes around her title are misplaced. ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/4 "2014-08-21T18:36:03Z")
“…We know that death and disease are intruders into God’s originally perfect creation, and we are right to work to reverse the effects of the Curse brought about by man’s rebellion…” Well, at least she’s admitting God’s a petulant spiteful asshole and we should use science as our primary weapon against Him. Or did I only read what I wanted to see? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/5 "2014-08-21T19:03:07Z")
BTW has anyone registered “Ants in Genitals” as a site name? ---
**Author:** ![njtt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ecd19e/32.png) [@njtt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/njtt)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/6 "2014-08-21T19:04:58Z")
This does seem a better way of using ice. ---
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/7 "2014-08-21T19:15:24Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Point of order - Georgia Purdom is a nutjob; however, her Ph.D. is real, from OSU. Ironic quotes around her title are misplaced. I’m sure that fact is proudly displayed front and center in the Admission literature. Frankly, achieving a degree with a brain that faulty makes a good case for her get her tuition back. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/8 "2014-08-21T19:21:04Z")
> [@Sitnam](#): > > I’m sure that fact is proudly displayed front and center in the Admission literature. > > Frankly, achieving a degree with a brain that faulty makes a good case for her get her tuition back. Or shut down the school as a diploma mill. ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/9 "2014-08-21T19:30:29Z")
It’s articles like this that give the Greater Cincinnati area a bad name. Reading it, you’d think we were all a bunch of Protestant fundamentalist assholes, when the truth is, we have plenty of _Catholic_ assholes, too: [**Archdiocese of Cincinnati douses enthusiasm for ice-bucket challenge in Catholic schools**](http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/archdiocese-of-cincinnati-douse-enthusiasm-for-ice-bucket-challenge-in-catholic-schools) ---
**Author:** ![black\_rabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f19dbf/32.png) [@black\_rabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/black_rabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/10 "2014-08-21T19:45:02Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > BTW has anyone registered “Ants in Genitals” as a site name? In this case, I would support local tax subsidies for their theme park. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/11 "2014-08-21T19:50:20Z")
I don’t know. If they’re against stem cell research, what’s wrong with them saying you shouldn’t give to a charitybthatbusesbstem cell research? ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/12 "2014-08-21T19:57:33Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t know. If they’re against stem cell research, what’s wrong with them saying you shouldn’t give to a charitybthatbusesbstem cell research? I thought you were using some big word and then I realized you were just hitting the b key instead of the space key. Anyway, if they don’t want to donate to a research that uses stem cells that’s fine but they should not impede others from doing so and if a cure is found by this method I am sure they will stick by their beliefs and decline it should they develop one of these horrible diseases. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/13 "2014-08-21T20:10:27Z")
Cell phone posting. The b is above the space bar and I have fat thumbs. I don’t see how they’re impeding others from donating…just telling tjwm they shouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/14 "2014-08-21T20:17:48Z")
> [@JRDelirious](#): > > BTW has anyone registered “Ants in Genitals” as a site name? I though we were pitting a user named \*\*Ants in Genitals \*\*. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/15 "2014-08-21T20:41:44Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > I don’t know. If they’re against stem cell research, what’s wrong with them saying you shouldn’t give to a charitybthatbusesbstem cell research? Except that even their own article repeatedly downplays the connection between the charity and stem cell research. Read through it. It’s amazing how many quotes are in there talking about how embryonic stem cells are barely used, and how the ones they do use are from one specific line, etc, etc. They’re making a mountain out of a molehill, even if you agree with their condemnation of ESC lines. It’s almost as if they’re deliberately twisting the facts of reality to support their preconceived prejudices, but it’s hard to imagine creationists doing that… ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/16 "2014-08-21T20:42:19Z")
> [@black\_rabbit](#): > > It’s articles like this that give the Greater Cincinnati area a bad name. Reading it, you’d think we were all a bunch of Protestant fundamentalist assholes, when the truth is, we have plenty of _Catholic_ assholes, too: > > [**Archdiocese of Cincinnati douses enthusiasm for ice-bucket challenge in Catholic schools**](http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/archdiocese-of-cincinnati-douse-enthusiasm-for-ice-bucket-challenge-in-catholic-schools) _clicks_ Yeah, same reasons as Purdom . . . ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/17 "2014-08-21T20:55:25Z")
> [@bup](#): > > Point of order - Georgia Purdom is a nutjob; however, her Ph.D. is real, from OSU. Ironic quotes around her title are misplaced. No, I’m pretty sure Georgia Purdom is just a Kristen Schaal character. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/18 "2014-08-21T21:13:02Z")
How, exactly does anyone dumping a bucket of ice water over their head raise any money for anything- other than the guys selling the icewater?😕 I mean sure- you can say “If I walk 10 miles I’ll donate $50”- but you can donate that $50 with taking a step. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/19 "2014-08-21T21:18:03Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > How, exactly does anyone dumping a bucket of ice water over their head raise any money for anything- other than the guys selling the icewater?😕 [Indirectly.](http://www.alsa.org/news/archive/ice-bucket-challenge.html) > [@](#): > > The challenge involves people getting doused with buckets of ice water on video, posting that video to social media, then nominating others to do the same, all in an effort to raise ALS awareness. People can either accept the challenge or make a donation to an ALS Charity of their choice, or do both. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [August 21, 2014, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114/20 "2014-08-21T21:20:10Z")
BTW, ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease), or something related to it, is what paralyzed Stephen Hawking. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ants-in-genitals-disses-the-als-challenge/696114.md?page=2)