# Any advice for Andy Burnham on meeting Trump?

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [September 22, 2026, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271 "2026-09-22T11:30:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 11:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/1 "2026-09-22T11:30:50Z")

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As the title says. Burnham is, of course, our latest PM.

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**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/2 "2026-09-22T12:43:48Z")

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Praise him with great praise and push a single agenda item.  
Trump is an massive egotist, so praise.

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@bob_2:  
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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/3 "2026-09-22T12:54:51Z")

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Mr. Burnham is, according to Wikipedia, the antithesis of the barely animated hairpiece that is tasked with running the USA. He’s practically a goddamn communist!

> [@Wikipedia](#):
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> Burnham identifies as a [socialist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist "Socialist") and is associated with the [Labour Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK) "Labour Party (UK)")’s [soft left](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_left "Soft left"); he is also a member of the [Co-operative Party](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Co-operative_Party "Co-operative Party"), which is [allied with Labour](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_and_Co-operative_Party "Labour and Co-operative Party").

While I do not put too much faith in UK politicians in general, this “radical leftist” will be more than a match for Trump and will run rings around him… to the great satisfaction of all tiers of society from the readers of the Sun to readers of the Telegraph.

And Trump’s extraordinarily stunted sense of humour will cause him to miss all the barbs and he’ll smile inanely as ever.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/4 "2026-09-22T13:43:05Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> And Trump’s extraordinarily stunted sense of humour will cause him to miss all the barbs and he’ll smile inanely as ever.

Then someone will explain the insults to him later and Trump will post something like 'BOMB THE VERY LOW RATINGS UK" at 3am.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/5 "2026-09-22T13:50:36Z")

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Don’t.

That’s my advice.

The more real national leaders who refuse to meet with him, the less damage he will be able to do to both their country and the United States. It will also send a message that they are not going to assist him in normalizing his behavior and rhetoric.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/6 "2026-09-22T13:54:50Z")

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Can you imagine Trump sitting alone in the UN cafeteria, eating hamberders by himself.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/7 "2026-09-22T14:00:09Z")

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Cheeseberder in solitary!

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/8 "2026-09-22T16:53:40Z")

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Don’t give even a millimeter of an inch.

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**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/9 "2026-09-22T16:56:44Z")

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Keep your wallet in a front pocket. On a chain. And empty of cash or any anonymously-negotiable valuables.

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**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/10 "2026-09-22T17:22:32Z")

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I recall Trump the first term meeting up with then Prince Charles and they were discussing climate change. Trump the Fool contended that regarding climate, the U.S. had sunny skies and nice air.  
Charles kept a stiff upper lip.

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**Author:** ![billy-jack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac91a4/32.png) [@billy-jack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billy-jack)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/11 "2026-09-22T17:58:40Z")

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Tell him what he wants to hear and he’ll give you anything you want.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/12 "2026-09-22T18:25:15Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> While I do not put too much faith in UK politicians in general, this “radical leftist” will be more than a match for Trump and will run rings around him… to the great satisfaction of all tiers of society from the readers of the Sun to readers of the Telegraph.

A slight possibility of this happening in a fair fight…which means there is no chance of all of this happening.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/13 "2026-09-22T20:48:49Z")

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Apparently they agreed… That Iran must not have nuclear weapons.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/14 "2026-09-23T06:37:27Z")

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I would said, try to stay up-wind.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/15 "2026-09-23T07:14:09Z")

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If there is something you want from him, carefully plan and extensively rehearse your praise and worship for the Lord and savior.

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**Author:** ![bob\_2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bob_2/32/3341_2.png) [@bob\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bob_2)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/16 "2026-09-23T10:32:32Z")

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Like the Queen of Hearts. “Off with his head.”

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**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/17 "2026-09-23T10:42:03Z")

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Nothing Burnham can say or do will change Trump from doing the insane things he is doing.

People pretending they can make a difference are deluded. He’ll just forget after a while even if you do placate him, and will rage and tear apart his allies like he always does.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/18 "2026-09-23T11:02:35Z")

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Agreed. And I think the best outcome is that the UK basically becomes invisible. It’s bad to be either a perceived ally, or foe, of this moron.

Also, I used to think it was a big problem that figures from the UK right often go on American TV or podcasts and lie about the country – how we ruled by sharia law and asylum seekers get given cars etc. But in the context of our relationship with the US, I don’t see that it affects much. So if something like that comes up, of course you should say it’s false, but there’s no need (or possibility) to change his mind.

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/19 "2026-09-23T12:35:18Z")

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It appears that rather than take any of our advice, Andy Burnham chose to take Trump’s advice instead.

> **[Chagos Islands deal ‘can’t go ahead’ without US support, Streeting says](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/sep/23/chagos-islands-diego-garcia-streeting-us-support)**
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> Defence secretary places annual payments to Mauritius on hold as UK government reviews deal over Diego Garcia base

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**Post date:** [September 23, 2026, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-advice-for-andy-burnham-on-meeting-trump/1033271/20 "2026-09-23T20:30:43Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> It appears that rather than take any of our advice, Andy Burnham chose to take Trump’s advice instead.

Well, it’s always predictable that Trump will object to any handover of territory from “us” (very-broadly speaking) to “those shithole people” (in this case, the multi-ethnic people of Mauritius).

The UK likely concluded that giving Donald this issue to fuss and fret over would distract him from doing even more harmful things to the UK (raising tariffs to 90%, anyone?)

After all, the agreement provided for the joint US-UK military base to remain under the 99-year lease agreement. And pleasing Donald at least lets the UK collect interest on the held-up payments they had been going to give to Mauritius.  
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On the OP: my advice would have been that Burnham ask MI6 for some of those odor-blocking nostril inserts. But maybe he’d already acquired some, knowing he’d have to be in the vicinity of His Stinkiness for a while.

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