# Any celebrities refusing to enter the closet? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 5, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209 "2012-06-05T22:15:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/41 "2012-06-09T03:32:05Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > …this would explain some things about Keanu Reeves Apropos of virtually nothing, I just have to share a favorite song lyric based on that line… > [@](#): > > And no one cares that you love Keanu > Oh, what’s the difference anyway > Everybody knows that he’s gay > Okay, I really don’t know that > But let’s face it > He’s too hot to be straight! (From Future Ex-Girlfriend, by the gothic artist Voltaire.) ---
**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/42 "2012-06-09T04:40:18Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Anne Heche was straight, then gay for Ellen, then straight again. I don’t know if she identifies as bi or not, but other than her time with Ellen she seems to prefer men. She seemed to have a thing for Asians as well - Joan Chen in Wild Side. 😉 Joan Chen is on her second husband and has 2 daughters. AFAIK, Joan never fit the OP. (I met Joan on the movie set of Taipan and saw her at a health club in Shanghai with one of her daughters a few years ago. ) ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/43 "2012-06-09T05:10:39Z")
> [@Irishman](#): > > No overt descriptions, no references to making a decision, consistent use of the female pronouns. Yes, I found it rather odd that the article seems to pretty much totally gloss over her being a transwoman (except for the tags at the bottom). Typically wiki articles will mention if someone was born with a different name than they were later known by, for example. It’s almost like the writer is trying to cover up that she is a transwoman. Why all the secrecy? Is it something she tries to hide? I also wonder if you can really consider a man gay/bi if he’s attracted to someone who may have been born male but presents herself as female. ---
**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/44 "2012-06-09T20:35:02Z")
> [@lavenderviolet](#): > > I also wonder if you can really consider a man gay/bi if he’s attracted to someone who may have been born male but presents herself as female. Depends on if they have a penis. ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/45 "2012-06-10T00:25:42Z")
> [@lavenderviolet](#): > > Yes, I found it rather odd that the article seems to pretty much totally gloss over her being a transwoman (except for the tags at the bottom). Typically wiki articles will mention if someone was born with a different name than they were later known by, for example. It’s almost like the writer is trying to cover up that she is a transwoman. Why all the secrecy? Is it something she tries to hide? > > I also wonder if you can really consider a man gay/bi if he’s attracted to someone who may have been born male but presents herself as female. It would be less sinister and more simple to assume the writer of the Wiki article couldn’t find a citation for Ms. Haag’s birth name. Also, it’s immaterial what we consider others to be; it only matters what they identify themselves as. ---
**Author:** ![Simple\_Linctus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Simple\_Linctus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simple_Linctus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/46 "2012-06-10T00:51:14Z")
I thought David Bowie was caught in bed with Mick Jagger once? ---
**Author:** ![Nawth\_Chucka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c57346/32.png) [@Nawth\_Chucka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nawth_Chucka)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209/47 "2012-06-10T01:01:17Z")
> [@Confused dart cum](#): > > I thought David Bowie was caught in bed with Mick Jagger once? So says Angela Bowie, when she was on tv shilling her memoirs. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-celebrities-refusing-to-enter-the-closet/624209.md?page=2)