# Any countries where certain professions don't exist?

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [March 10, 2014, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313 "2014-03-10T00:37:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/21 "2014-03-10T03:06:21Z")

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> [@Flywheel](#):
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> No abortionists in Vatican City.

I don’t know, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all to learn there are one or two working on the down low. 😉 OTOH, you could go a few hundred feet into Italy and find them there.

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Vatican City has an official population of what, about 200? So if you make a list of professions longer than that, you’re guaranteed to get some misses. Of course, the real list would be much easier, since many of the people in Vatican City share professions (an awful lot of them are clergy, for starters).

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/23 "2014-03-10T03:18:15Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> No film/video projectionists in Saudi Arabia.

Or mohels.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/24 "2014-03-10T04:09:22Z")

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> [@Leo\_Bloom](#):
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> Or mohels.

So, who circumcises all those little Muslim baby boys? I wondered about that, and it looks like anyone can do it.

> **[Khitan (circumcision)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khitan_%28circumcision%29)**
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> Khitan (Arabic: ختان) or Khatna (Arabic: ختنة) is the Arabic term for circumcision, and the Islamic term for the practice of religious male circumcision in Islamic culture. Male circumcision is widespread in the Muslim world, and accepted as an established practice by all Islamic schools of jurisprudence. It is considered a sign of belonging to the wider Muslim community (Ummah).
> Islamic male circumcision is analogous but not identical to Jewish male circumcision. Muslims are currently the lar...

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/25 "2014-03-10T04:21:54Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> In the very first episode there’s a claim that there are no private detective in Ireland, that is “smacks of informant” and the attitude of people would make that a particularly dangerous career.

Yeah that sounds a little too “no true Scotsman” to me–_our people_ would never tell on each other. Now if there’s a difference between the Irish and American legal systems that makes it harder to use this evidence, that’s a separate thing.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Bail bondsmen outside the US, and it looks like the Philippines, too.

I was coming in to mention that. In Canada, putting up bail money to raise a profit is a criminal offence, as a sub-set of obstruction of justice. Individuals can post bail for family members or friends, provided it’s not being done as a business.

Hence, no bail bondsmen as a profession.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/27 "2014-03-10T04:48:59Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> I was coming in to mention that. In Canada, putting up bail money to raise a profit is a criminal offence, as a sub-set of obstruction of justice. Individuals can post bail for family members or friends, provided it’s not being done as a business.
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> Hence, no bail bondsmen as a profession.

Is bail a lot lower? From what I recall, no, at least not in many countries. How is it affordable. Four states apparently don’t do bail bonds, but the 10% is paid as a deposit, I think.

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Is bail a lot lower? From what I recall, no, at least not in many countries. How is it affordable. Four states apparently don’t do bail bonds, but the 10% is paid as a deposit, I think.

It is not necessarily lower. By putting the burden on friends and family (who may have mortgaged the house for bail), what it does do is to ensure that friends and family have an incentive to make sure that the accused shows up in court at the appointed date and time. In other words, by putting their own money on the line, it is assumed that they will not help the accused to flee the jurisdiction, especially when their house, or other assets, are at stake.

The accused always has the option to remain in custody. If the accused opts for that, no sureties (i.e. bail) will be necessary.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/29 "2014-03-10T06:31:47Z")

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> [@installLSC](#):
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> Yeah that sounds a little too “no true Scotsman” to me–_our people_ would never tell on each other. Now if there’s a difference between the Irish and American legal systems that makes it harder to use this evidence, that’s a separate thing.

Being an informer in Ireland is not a profession, but a vocation.  
As for the Vatican, there are under 900 residents ( only 220+ are citizens: conversely others are citizens, but not residents ) of whom:  
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Statistics published in the year 2011 it was mentioned that there were 32 Women Citizens in Vatican City State at the time. Of these women 31 were laywoman and one was a Nun.\*

**[The Vatican . Com](http://vatican.com/articles/info/the_vaticans_population-a56)**

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/30 "2014-03-10T06:37:20Z")

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I bet there aren’t many brewmasters, distillers, or vinters in Saudi Arabia.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/31 "2014-03-10T07:24:40Z")

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> [@panache45](#):
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> No snake charmers in Ireland.

In western countries I expect you can find [anything](http://www.galaxygroup.ie/entertainer_details.asp?act_id=17).

> [@panache45](#):
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> No snowplow drivers in Libya.

[Well…](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Al_Bayda,_Libya_snow.jpg)

Welcome to [Bayda, Libya](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayda,_Libya#Climate).

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/32 "2014-03-10T07:37:55Z")

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> [@Ranger\_Jeff](#):
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> I bet there aren’t many brewmasters, distillers, or vinters in Saudi Arabia.

I was going to say: I bet there are no prostitutes in Saudi Arabia. But then: of course there are, just probably no streetwalkers.

There are military bases, which would make all these easier, if not possible at “normal” levels.

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> Is bail a lot lower? From what I recall, no, at least not in many countries. How is it affordable. Four states apparently don’t do bail bonds, but the 10% is paid as a deposit, I think.

My impression is that bail in Canada is based a lot more on assessments of the accused’s likelihood to flee or pose a risk to the public, than on a money bail. Mrs Piper used to be a Crown; she told me once that she rarely asked for a financial surety.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 9:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/34 "2014-03-10T09:16:21Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> No film/video projectionists in Saudi Arabia.

There must be at least a few, since [some movie theatres were reopened a few years ago](http://www.layalina.tv/index.php/vol-v-no-13-june-05-june-18-2009/cinema-re-opens-in-saudi-arabia-after-three-decades). No idea if they’re still operating or if this was just a one-time event to promote _Menahi_.

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> I was going to say: I bet there are no prostitutes in Saudi Arabia. But then: of course there are, just probably no streetwalkers.
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> There are military bases, which would make all these easier, if not possible at “normal” levels.

The US military permits prostitution at normal levels on its foreign bases? How do the prostitutes get in? The last time I drove up to a foreign US military base (quite accidentally), some angry soldiers came running at us with machine guns and made us turn around. I don’t think they would have been more inviting if we claimed we were there to service the local soldiers.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/36 "2014-03-10T13:44:20Z")

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Are there any private detectives in Ireland, though? I’m just across the border in the UK and I don’t think we really have them here. The reasons may be spurious, but the lack of of them may be true.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/37 "2014-03-10T14:07:37Z")

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There are no coroners in Germany (which is also the case, I believe, in other European countries).

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/38 "2014-03-10T14:25:45Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> I was going to make a joke about Switerland’s Navy, but apparently, [they actually have one!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_navy#Lakes_flotilla)

And their knives are _unbelievably awesome_.

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**Post date:** [March 10, 2014, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-countries-where-certain-professions-dont-exist/683313/39 "2014-03-10T14:26:23Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> In the very first episode there’s a claim that there are no private detective in Ireland, that is “smacks of informant” and the attitude of people would make that a particularly dangerous career. Of course the lead guy is an ex-cop, and manages to get away with it.

> **[Private Investigator | Liam A Brady](https://www.liamabrady.ie/)**
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> Liam A Brady is Ireland's leading professional private investigator. Offering a full range of services and solutions from security consultant, surveillance, infidelity, fraud detection, risk management, stolen goods, debugging and much more.

> **[PRIVATE DETECTIVE Dublin | Shadow Detectives](https://privatedetectivedublin.com/)**
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> Shadow Detectives are a private intelligence and detective agency based in Dublin, Ireland offering a professional and confidential service to all it’s

[http://www.privatedetectiveireland.com](http://www.privatedetectiveireland.com)

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No Formula One drivers in the USA. ☹

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