# Any Cowboy Bebop fans out there? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 19, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297 "2004-03-19T22:18:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hamish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a5b964/32.png) [@Hamish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamish)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/21 "2004-03-23T00:00:34Z")
**Bebop** is in my top ten. When I recommend it, though, I recommend they watch at least the first four episodes. Most people I know didn’t like the first few. ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/22 "2004-03-23T00:26:37Z")
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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/23 "2004-03-23T13:10:41Z")
My daughter got me started on it, and now I have the DVD episodes and the DVD movie. I love it because it’s cool, AND because it shows that video science fiction doesn’t have to suck. My only complaint is that CB has the requisite cute kid mascot, Ed. I can’t stand her. I sort of like Ein, though I’m glad that he mostly stays in the background. ---
**Author:** ![cactus\_waltz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@cactus\_waltz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cactus_waltz)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/24 "2004-03-23T13:27:29Z")
I absolutely love Ed. The script writers were gifted enough to know when she would be in the way of the story, so in the more serious story lines, you basically just get Spike or Faye fly off to a remote planet and do they do best. The ending of episode 24 really strikes my emotional nerves. The music fits perfectly. ---
**Author:** ![psiekier](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/psiekier/32/116_2.png) [@psiekier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psiekier)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/25 "2004-03-23T21:13:16Z")
> [@Sonyadora](#): > > Is anyone who’s seen Bebop NOT a fan? > > Didn’t think so. I’ve met one, and he also has a healthy dislike for _Evangelion_. My buddy Charles was the one that really got me up to speed on anime all those years ago. I had enjoyed _Battle of the Planets_, _Speed Racer_, and _Star Blazers_ as a child, but didn’t understand the connection until I met him sometime in the late 1980’s. Charles’s take on _Bebop_ is this: I’ve seen _Lupin III_. What does _Bebop_ add other than that it takes place in space (which, incidentally, is part of the premise of _Lupin VIII_, which was never finished due to copyright concerns)? I have to acknowledge his point. I think the similarities in the characters and their relationships to those in _Lupin_ are obvious, even if that’s purely for the sake of an homage to Monkey Punch’s classic characters - right down to the frequent smoking. Instead of Lupin being the hero, in _Bebop_ you have the quiet, mysterious Goemon (Spike) character leading most of the episodes. Every once in a while, you hand an episode to the sexy chick (Faye/Fujiko), the tough-as-nails bearded guy (Jet/Jigen), or the clever genius (Ed/Lupin). All I’m saying is that I find merit in his viewpoint. Personally, I loved _Cowboy Bebop_. > [@Brainiac4](#): > > Bebop was the first anime series I really got into – it’s largely responsible for convincing me that anime was not just cool cartoons, it was an actual art form. Uh, what took you so long, **Brainiac4**? 😃 > [@Hamish](#): > > Bebop is in my top ten. When I recommend it, though, I recommend they watch at least the first four episodes. Most people I know didn’t like the first few. I’ll second that. I caught the _Bebop_ bug from [Elizabeth Kirkindall](http://www.big-big-truck.com/), and after seeing only the first three episodes, had to ask her why she thought it was so great. At her suggestion, I watched a few specific episodes out of sequence and it made the experience really enjoyable when I went back and resumed at Episode 4. ---
**Author:** ![Achren](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Achren](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Achren)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/26 "2004-03-23T21:52:42Z")
I own The Perfect Sessions, still gotta get the movie. I actually got into CB from Cartoon Network (I’m so glad they have Adult Swim). The only anime I’d seen previously was Escaflowne and while I enjoyed it, CB ranks higher with me. (I should also add that nothing Yoko Kanno does, musically, will ever be wrong in my eyes/ears after viewing both those series - what else has she done?) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Armageddon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/858c86/32.png) [@Mister\_Armageddon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Armageddon)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 6:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/27 "2004-03-24T06:45:00Z")
> [@Achren](#): > > (I should also add that nothing Yoko Kanno does, musically, will ever be wrong in my eyes/ears after viewing both those series - what else has she done?) She did the soundtracks for Escaflowne and Macross Plus, as well as the new Ghost In The Shell TV series. Cartoon Network will start airing that one sometime in the summer, I think. And I don’t know if this is true or not, but I heard somewhere that Ed’s personality is based on her. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 12:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/28 "2004-03-24T12:40:28Z")
> [@pepperlandgirl](#): > > Also, is it wrong to be attracted to cartoon characters? Because Spike is really hot and so is Gren. If being attracted to Spike is wrong, I don’t wanna be right. Gren, however, is skeevy. If I can ever afford a nice computer, it shall be named Tomato. ---
**Author:** ![Journeyman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/779978/32.png) [@Journeyman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Journeyman)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/29 "2004-03-24T14:52:53Z")
Bebop, in addition to being exceedingly stylish, frequently has a more mature tone than most anime. It’s not just the lack of super-deform (SD) moments, or the lack of a lot of the conventions of anime. Nor does mature, in this case, mean explicit sex or gore. It’s the fact that I can believe that the characters are the age they’re supposed to be. The show manages to be funny without being stupid. Heck, they even managed to make the obligatory previews of the next episode clever; one of the characters narrates it, often saying something totally unrelated to the next episode. Jet’s ramble on age and appearance is priceless. Great stuff. The music rocks, the artwork and overall visual style is extremely cool. It’s among the best anime ever made, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/30 "2004-03-24T16:14:28Z")
Anime is kind of hit-or-miss with me, but Cowboy Bebop got me hooked from the very first time I saw it. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2004, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/31 "2004-03-24T16:23:40Z")
> [@Journeyman](#): > > Heck, they even managed to make the obligatory previews of the next episode clever; one of the characters narrates it, often saying something totally unrelated to the next episode. Jet’s ramble on age and appearance is priceless. Thank you very much for that info, I have the DVD version, and had always skipped the coming next part assuming that it might spoil the next eppisode I was going to watch straight away. I’ll go back and remember to watch them from now on. Cheers, Bippy ---
**Author:** ![audreyayn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@audreyayn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audreyayn)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 6:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/32 "2004-03-26T06:46:12Z")
> [@Mister Armageddon](#): > > She did the soundtracks for Escaflowne and Macross Plus, as well as the new Ghost In The Shell TV series. Cartoon Network will start airing that one sometime in the summer, I think. > > And I don’t know if this is true or not, but I heard somewhere that Ed’s personality is based on her. That’s true, the director said so at a con I went to. He went to talk to her about the music and she was rolling around on the floor and acting all crazy. He thought it was great, so… The influence Lupin III had on CB is obvious, but the tone is different. CB can be serious, it can do horror, it can do silly, it can be everywhere. Lupin III was primarily comedy, and even in its more serious moments has a different feel from CB. (Granted, I haven’t seen every thing that’s been done with Lupin III.) Besides, if it’s Lupin, where’s pops, dammit?! ---
**Author:** ![audiobottle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bc8723/32.png) [@audiobottle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/audiobottle)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/33 "2004-03-26T07:17:24Z")
Count me in as another huge Cowboy Bebop fan. Before it I had only seen Inuyasha, which is a pretty decent anime in and of itself, but nowhere near the maturity fo CB. The way they blended in old school technology (they still used normal guns with bullets) with high-tech stuff was just awesome. I watched the movie after all the episodes, and I have to say, my only complaint is that Faye and Spike never hooked up. It probably would have ruined the series for me, but c’mon… Faye was way hotter than Julia. ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/34 "2004-03-26T16:59:42Z")
Faye is hot, but she has serious issues. Spike is a smart guy, he knows Faye would be bad for him in the long run. Just rewatching the last couple of eepisodes, I hadn’t noticed who it was who picked up the rather sad old lady in the airport scene, check that moment out it is an extremely well crafted little snippit. ---
**Author:** ![vibrotronica](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/a9a28c/32.png) [@vibrotronica](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vibrotronica)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2004, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297/35 "2004-03-26T17:12:30Z")
If I were on a spaceship with Faye Valentine for as long as Spike was, I’d end up doing her no matter how bad she was for me. The scene from “The Real Folk Blues” where Faye begs Spike not to go get himself killed over Julia and ends up firing her gun in frustration breaks my freakin’ heart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-cowboy-bebop-fans-out-there/235297.md?page=1)