# Any Food Feuds You Know of? Where do You Stand on Them? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 19, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663 "2017-07-19T18:06:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/121 "2017-07-20T18:58:21Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Fives guys has better fries but their _adamant refusal t_o have thousand island dressing makes them a no go in my book. They simply refuse. Well, even Burger King has better fries than In 'N Out. When people have to special order them (well-done, Animal Style) to make them remotely edible, you’re doing something wrong. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/122 "2017-07-20T19:11:42Z")
We just got a Five Guys in the spring; I tried it out and it was ok. Don’t see what all the fuss is about. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/123 "2017-07-20T19:17:52Z")
They do give you a metric ton of fries. And an extra scoop on top of that. (Actually the amount of fries they give you is excessive, IMO. While I appreciate the attempt at providing value, it’s really just wasteful for most customers.) ---
**Author:** ![GargoyleWB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gargoylewb/32/199_2.png) [@GargoyleWB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GargoyleWB)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/124 "2017-07-20T19:43:56Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > We just got a Five Guys in the spring; I tried it out and it was ok. Don’t see what all the fuss is about. 5 Guys is great because of the toppings…you can dump jalapeno, pineapple, olives, and bacon for a goo-fest-nirvana burger. If you can still detect the patty, you’re doing it wrong 😃 ---
**Author:** ![UncaStuart](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uncastuart/32/404_2.png) [@UncaStuart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncaStuart)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/125 "2017-07-20T20:09:37Z")
> [@JcWoman](#): > > ABut for the love of all that’s holy and good, do NOT hack all the leaf tips off and scrape the choke out before cooking. Ack! Where do they do this? ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/126 "2017-07-20T20:18:15Z")
I’ve heard people say that McDonald’s has the best fries. McDonald’s fries are barely food. If you don’t wolf them down in five minutes they go cold and have the texture and flavor of literal shoestrings. They’re disgusting. ---
**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/127 "2017-07-20T20:34:12Z")
The church of barbecue has many schisms. I am ecumenical. It’s all good. I don’t care if you prefer _chile con carne_ or _chile con frijoles_. Both are authentic Mexican dishes. But “chili” is a gringo misspelling that grates on my nerves. If it’s on a flour tortilla, then it’s not a taco. It’s a burrito, or a fajita. ---
**Author:** ![JcWoman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jcwoman/32/2889_2.png) [@JcWoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JcWoman)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/128 "2017-07-20T20:40:03Z")
> [@UncaStuart](#): > > Ack! Where do they do this? Every cooking show I’ve ever seen and also tons of cooking/recipe websites[(like this one)](http://uniqueculinaryadventures.blogspot.com/2005/12/artichokes-best-way-to-cook.html). It’s a travesty. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/129 "2017-07-20T20:57:23Z")
> [@JcWoman](#): > > I thought of another one, and this one I admit is just me against the world: artichokes should be served as God intended. (Boiled. Oh, and we’re talking globe artichokes here.) Part of the fun is picking the leaves off with your fingers, scraping the meat off each one with your teeth, scraping the choke out with the edge of your fork and then snarfing the heart down in four bites. (You’re allowed to dip in butter or mayo, your preference.) If you prick your fingers on the leaf tips, that’s just added excitement, like kissing a man with a mustache. But for the love of all that’s holy and good, do NOT hack all the leaf tips off and scrape the choke out before cooking. We’re not 2-year olds who need mommy to cut our food before handing us a spoon to eat with. If anybody served me an artichoke like that I’d be liable to throw it against their forehead and walk out. How else do you cook artichokes? I hope you’re not discounting steaming, which is superior to boiling, but I can’t think of a third way. Grilled? Never tried it. I mostly agree on the cutting, except that it’s allowed if and only if it aids in laying it flat while cooking, which sounds like what they’re doing in the recipe. Otherwise I’m okay with being trusted not to poke myself. Scrape it out? People do this (not clear what they’re recommending from the posted recipe)!?!? It’s like butchering a pig and throwing away the bacon! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/130 "2017-07-20T21:13:38Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > The church of barbecue has many schisms. I am ecumenical. It’s all good. > > I don’t care if you prefer _chile con carne_ or _chile con frijoles_. **Both are authentic Mexican dishes.** But “chili” is a gringo misspelling that grates on my nerves. > > If it’s on a flour tortilla, then it’s not a taco. It’s a burrito, or a fajita. Actually, neither one is. It has been pretty well settled that what we refer to as “chili” is American, not Mexican. As for tacos - Mexicans would disagree with you. ---
**Author:** ![Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/439d5e/32.png) [@Some\_Call\_Me.Tim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Some_Call_Me.Tim)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/131 "2017-07-20T21:21:55Z")
The correct answer for chili is with beans. Also, if you have the time, the beans should be purchased dry and soaked yourself - precooked canned beans don’t adopt the flavors as well as a good long simmer from raw. I’m also a bit confused as to why beans would have a brand, and am unfamiliar with what Camilla brand would be, but if they start raw they should work. After all that, I’m pretty flexible about what kind of bean, and will mix and match. Pinto and Kidney are both fine. There will need to be onions, ground beef, and a significant amount of heat. Oh, and: 1. artichokes should be dipped in melted butter B. Pineapple is an excellent pizza ingredient 2. I’ve never actually been in an area that had both an In & Out and Five Guys in proximity to one another, so I haven’t had to choose. They’re both way up on my list if I’m in the mood for a fast food burger. D. Cheese should be kept away from apple pie. E. Corn tortillas \> flour tortillas, soft is easier to get right. 3. Raisins in Oatmeal cookies. I’ve seen chocolate chip oatmeal cookies, which was okay (it’s hard to go wrong with chocolate) but that’s just not the right combo. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/132 "2017-07-20T21:39:04Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > We just got a Five Guys in the spring; I tried it out and it was ok. Don’t see what all the fuss is about. That seems to be a pretty standard reaction for some people trying 5 Guys or In n Out for the first time. I just think their expectations are set too high, or they have a different idea of what makes a great fast food style burger. I think both are pretty much perfect examples of the style. As for me, In N Out over Five Guys. Not only do I like it better (and, as I’ve said many times before, it’s the quintessential fast food burger), it’s also a couple bucks cheaper than Five Guys. Five Guys does have fantastic fries, though. Thing is, I don’t need a bucket of fries with my burger, so I never get them, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/133 "2017-07-20T21:49:13Z")
> [@Anamorphic](#): > > I’m pretty mellow on most food arguments. Eat and let eat, I say. Personally, I’m a mustard guy, but if you want to slather ketchup on your hotdog, knock yourself out. I won’t look at you askance. Beans in your chilli? Sure, enjoy. Pineapple on your pizza? Go ahead. I’ll pass, but you enjoy it. We’re all open to our own food choices, and it’s all good. > > Except. > > If you take your steak any past medium, you are simply doing it wrong. You are cooking all the flavor out, and merely eating texture. Yes yes, it’s your meal, and you are allowed to have it any way you’d like. But you are still doing it wrong. I know, this contradicts what I said in my first paragraph, but we all need to draw the line somewhere, and murdering a poor, innocent steak is my line in the sand. This is pretty much how I feel. Eat what you want. Eat it how you like. Except steak. There is one way to cook steak correctly, and that is medium rare. And there are two kinds of steaks: rib steaks, and strip steaks. All other parts of the cow are beef but not steak. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/134 "2017-07-20T21:51:39Z")
> [@Daddypants](#): > > Recently there’s been a to-do about whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza. It does. It’s delicious. Recently? I first had this discussion 3 decades ago on my first west coast trip. Pineapple does not belong on pizza. > [@Grrr](#): > > A thin crust Pizza Hut Pizza isn’t just better than any NY pizza… it’s WAY better than any NY pizza. > And if you live in the DFW area, Campisi’s is even better than PH. I must assume that you have never had true NYC pizza. Even the $1 slices are superior to any chain’s offerings. No ketchup on dogs. No raisins anywhere. The only miracle about Miracle Whip is that they haven’t gone out of business. Most, if not all, BBQ is good. “Texas” chili may not have beans, but beans are fine in chili. Cooking over high heat and adding bottled sauce is not BBQ, it’s grilling. I’m looking at you, Aussies! I hold the above truths to be self-evident. I have spoken, let these feuds be forever ended. 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/135 "2017-07-20T21:53:38Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’ve heard people say that McDonald’s has the best fries. > > McDonald’s fries are barely food. If you don’t wolf them down in five minutes they go cold and have the texture and flavor of literal shoestrings. That’s pretty much true of any fried food. You have about a 5-10 minute window to eat it from when it turns from nirvana to disgusting crap. While I prefer skin-on fries, McDonald’s really does have the best skinless thin-cut fast food fries in the business. They’re just beautiful out of the fryer. No condiments except salt needed. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/136 "2017-07-20T21:59:04Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I must assume that you have never had true NYC pizza. Even the $1 slices are superior to any chain’s offerings. Really? I’ve had really good pizza in NYC, but I’ve also had a ton of truly shitty pizza all over the city. Most of them I paid more than $1 for. I’d happily trade in most of those wedges of hot garbage for Pizza Hut. ---
**Author:** ![MrSquishy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9e5f3/32.png) [@MrSquishy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrSquishy)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/137 "2017-07-20T21:59:11Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > I’ve heard people say that McDonald’s has the best fries. > > McDonald’s fries are barely food. If you don’t wolf them down in five minutes they go cold and have the texture and flavor of literal shoestrings. > > They’re disgusting. I’ve pretty much given up on ordering them. They can be really good, but they have to be fresh and more importantly the oil they were cooked in has to be fresh. 90% of the time they taste rancid to me. I don’t know what changed because I used to love them. But I’ve given up. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/138 "2017-07-20T22:03:04Z")
For a just plain good fast-food style burger, my go-to would be Rally’s/Checkers. And they also have the best fries. They’re also one of the cheapest fast food options, due to low overhead (no indoor seating). Oatmeal raisin cookies are OK, but oatmeal chocolate chip is a lot better, and raisins always disappoint me by virtue of not being chocolate but looking sort of like it. I think the only plain oatmeal cookies I’ve ever seen have been the ones from the end of a batch of one of the other types, that missed out on getting any of the brown bits. And Tex-Mex is a perfectly valid kind of Mexican food. Just because we went and drew a national border down the middle of the Rio Grande doesn’t mean that there’s a discontinuity in the culture. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/139 "2017-07-20T22:05:32Z")
> [@pulykamell](#): > > That seems to be a pretty standard reaction for some people trying 5 Guys or In n Out for the first time. I just think their expectations are set too high, or they have a different idea of what makes a great fast food style burger. I think both are pretty much perfect examples of the style. > > As for me, In N Out over Five Guys. Not only do I like it better (and, as I’ve said many times before, it’s the quintessential fast food burger), it’s also a couple bucks cheaper than Five Guys. Five Guys does have fantastic fries, though. Thing is, I don’t need a bucket of fries with my burger, so I never get them, anyway. Price is better for sure, and re the fries comment, I am ordering them less and less often with meals these days. ---
**Author:** ![4d3fect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/4d3fect/32/9728_2.png) [@4d3fect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/4d3fect)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/140 "2017-07-20T22:08:09Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Fives guys has better fries but their _adamant refusal t_o have thousand island dressing makes them a no go in my book. They simply refuse. They don’t have relish, mayo, and catsup? or DIY solutions a no go as well? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663.md?page=8)