# Any Food Feuds You Know of? Where do You Stand on Them? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 19, 2017, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663 "2017-07-19T18:06:40Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2017, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/141 "2017-07-20T22:15:56Z")
> [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > Sure the “Why doesn’t your chef give a shit?” angle took up more space than needed and the bit about piecing together meals for the daughter is borderline insufferable but I think he’s onto something when he asks why there isn’t a junior sized portion of regular meals. Instead, kids want Kraft or Kraft-style Mac and cheese or butter noodles or grilled cheese or some other bland food. Going out to eat should (maybe not always, but frequently) be a chance to try something new or to try something that you don’t have at home. I can make chicken nuggets and mac and cheese at home. If your four year old will eat off the adult menu, then by god order off the adult menu, of feed them off your plate. The problem is that lots of kids are picky eaters. The time to introduce them to new foods is when you’re at home. If my four year old isn’t going to eat sardines and pickled asparagus, she isn’t going to eat them. Then I’ll have a cranky hungry four year old at the restaurant. Maybe…give her some french fries to shut her up? It’s absolutely true that the kids menu is bland familiar food. Pizza, hamburger, chicken strips, spaghetti, quesadilla, grilled cheese, mac and cheese, hot dog, and I think our list is done. And why? So that kids who won’t eat sophisticated food don’t have to starve while the adults enjoy their meal. There might be a time and a place for “Eat what the family is serving or don’t, your call”. The best time and place for that is when the other patrons of the restaurant don’t have to listen to your kid sobbing for the next hour and a half. Making food into a power struggle is never pretty. Making your kids rejection of unfamiliar foods into a referendum on your parenting skills isn’t pretty either. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/142 "2017-07-21T00:09:44Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Well, even Burger King has better fries than In 'N Out. When people have to special order them (well-done, Animal Style) to make them remotely edible, you’re doing something wrong. People either love or hate the fries at In& out. I am in the “hate” camp, myself. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/143 "2017-07-21T00:11:57Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I must assume that you have never had true NYC pizza. Even the $1 slices are superior to any chain’s offerings. I have and it’s not bad at all. Hardly super great but pretty damn good if made right. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/144 "2017-07-21T00:13:27Z")
> [@4d3fect](#): > > They don’t have relish, mayo, and catsup? or DIY solutions a no go as well? Almost the same but not quite and why the fuck do I have to make it myself when it’s standard all over California? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/145 "2017-07-21T00:16:37Z")
> [@Daddypants](#): > > Recently there’s been a to-do about whether or not pineapple belongs on pizza. It does. It’s delicious. Heretic! Pineapple is an abomination on pizza! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/burpo_the_wonder_mutt/32/365_2.png) [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/burpo_the_wonder_mutt)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/146 "2017-07-21T00:22:17Z")
I used to deliver for Domino’s; one of the managers used to put strawberries on his pizza. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/147 "2017-07-21T00:48:24Z")
Obligatory [pineapple on pizza](https://satwcomic.com/how-to-break-iceland-s-spirit) comic. ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/148 "2017-07-21T01:59:31Z")
There’s a new fast food place in town called Top Dog. It’s our only dedicated hot dog joint. Been open less than a month, but I’m loving it. They have a hotdog called The Elvis Dog. It has peanut butter, banana and cornflakes. The owner/manager told me he made it up because he wanted something crazy that he didn’t expect anyone to order. But now he says he’s ordering a lot of bananas because, especially late at night when the bars close, it’s become popular. It sounds awful to me, but to each their own. Ive had the Chicago dog, the Sloppy Dog, and the (KC)Chiefs Dog. All with different toppings of course, and theyve all been good. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/149 "2017-07-21T11:09:53Z")
If you’re doing the hard shell taco thing at home put a little hot meat in the shells, then bake at a lowish (250-300) temperature for a few minutes, then top them off after that. You’ll be able to smell when the shells are cooking- don’t burn them, that’s easy to do. Using this method, the shells won’t crumble apart on you. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/150 "2017-07-21T12:16:56Z")
I think hard taco shells were created to introduce lazy gringos to Mexican food. The shell makes it easy to fill and it hold it’s shape, so if you put it down between bites it would not unroll and show the contents (which may be greasy and unappealing). One is made nowadays with a square bottom so it will stand upright on your plate while you fill it. I can see the argument for a satisfying crunch. Crumbling upon bite is still an issue, but at least they “look” good. Soft shell (corn) tacos are superior in terms of flavor, texture, and convenience, but they also require skill - you have to pinch the two sides together at the top to prevent the contents from spilling out. These tend to be filled with fresh and appealing ingredients, so seeing the contents is a bonus. Also, soft corn shell tacos are smaller, so there will not be a need to put it down between bites - it is usually gone in 2-3 bites anyway. Flour tortillas are for burritos. I confess I like Taco Bell’s Double Decker taco (supreme) - the one with a hard-shell inner taco wrapped in a flour tortilla with a thin layer of beans separating them. An abomination for sure, but a guilty pleasure, and wont crumble on impact. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/151 "2017-07-21T12:17:34Z")
Beans are fine in chili. Miracle Whip and vinegary barbecue are dreck. “Sweet tea” is nauseating. Extra cilantro, please. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/152 "2017-07-21T12:34:34Z")
Cilantro, I’m one of the very few people in the middle. I do taste the soapy taste in cilantro… but I’ve come to enjoy it in moderation, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Textual\_Innuendo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@Textual\_Innuendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Textual_Innuendo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/153 "2017-07-21T12:55:40Z")
> [@squidfood](#): > > In & Out versus Five Guys has started a few wars. _Snerk_. Five Guys on its best day isn’t even in this running. It’s like the pee-wee junior boxing championship winner against Mayweather or Tyson in his prime. Five Guys is what poor, deluded, east-coasters who have never known any better think of as a “good burger,” and we just don’t have the heart to tell them they’re the anosmic Helen Kellers of burger aficionados. To anyone who thinks this was even a contest, enjoy paying 3x as much for 1/10th the quality, I’ll be at In-n-Out having burgers the way Gordon Ramsey, Thomas Keller, Julia Child, David Chang, Anthony Bourdain, and god himself think burgers should be done. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/154 "2017-07-21T13:55:33Z")
> [@Textual\_Innuendo](#): > > _Snerk_. Five Guys on its best day isn’t even in this running. It’s like the pee-wee junior boxing championship winner against Mayweather or Tyson in his prime. > > Five Guys is what poor, deluded, east-coasters who have never known any better think of as a “good burger,” Wait, no good burger is available on the east coast? Just within a couple of miles of me there is Good Stuff Eatery, Five Guys, Shake Shack, Burger 7, Burger Tap & Shake, Ray’s Hellburger, BGR The Burger Joint, Holy Cow, All About Burger, Elevation Burger, Ollie’s Trolley, Fuddruckers, and a whole bunch of places I’ve never tried. NONE of these places with locations on the east coast serve a decent burger competitive with In-N-Out? You really mean to assert that? ---
**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/155 "2017-07-21T14:07:29Z")
> [@Ukulele\_Ike](#): > > Wheat flour and any kind of sugar have no place in decent cornbread. > > Many people advocate soaking the chicken in something before your fry it…buttermilk, lemon juice, Canadian Goose diarrhea…just don’t do it. Season it, dredge it in seasoned flour - twice - and then drop it in the pan. Agreed on the cornbread. Find yourself some bolted meal (Finer ground than standard corn meal) and make a proper cornbread or quit trying. But you are dead wrong about the chicken. My Mother comes from a town called “Gay” Georgia. (Quotes because when pronounced properly it has about ten syllables, but they spell it with only three letters.) She doesn’t do many things right, but she makes up for them all with her fried chicken. The key is, you marinate the chicken first in dill pickle juice, and the in buttermilk. Dredge in a mixture of flour and herbs and fry. Amen. > [@Intergalactic\_Gladiator](#): > > . . . > > AV Club posted an article against kids menus and I have to say I totally agree with this and I am totally guilty of letting my kids get chicken fingers just about anywhere we go. > > [Why Ordering From The Kids Menu Is Harmful To Children](http://www.avclub.com/article/why-ordering-kids-menu-harmful-children-258058) I always found that if Celtling had food that she liked in front of her, she was much more open to trying something new from my plate. If she was hungry and presented with something unfamiliar, panic set in and we’d get nowhere. YMMV as all kids are different, but it worked for us. She was four years old the first time she asked to order what I had last time instead of something from the kid’s menu. (It was Cioppino.) > [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](#): > > \ > Any person or restaurant who says they are serving you lemonade and then gives you a glass of Country Time (or similar) should be keelhauled. Lemonade is made from lemons, sugar, and water (liquid and solid). If any other ingredient is added, it must be called something else. > The hat as spoken, so let it be! > \ And none of this “Raspberry” crap either. They never add any actual raspberries, so what are they even doing to it? Blech! > [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](#): > > Duke’s is mayo. Nothing else comes close. Duke’s or I eat it dry. Unless it’s a Thanksgiving turkey sandwich. That is the only proper use for Miracle Whip. > [@JcWoman](#): > > Sugar does not belong within ten miles of cornbread. That northern USA habit of putting sugar in the cornbread recipe makes it nasty and inedible. Much prefer the southern style where it’s left savory. > > Also, I can’t for the life of me figure out why people pollute a good sweet potato recipe (or even just a baked one) with sugar. “Hmm, this naturally sweet ball of delicious vegetable isn’t sweet enough, let’s add a pound of brown sugar!” :mad: Oh, and marshmallows. :smack: It’s because they don’t cook the sweet potatoes long enough to caramelize. Sweet potatoes aren’t done when they get soft. They are done when they start blowing bubbles. Big, sweet, brown bubbles of sugary heaven. Now, can we talk about crab cakes? It’s not a crabcake unless you put some mustard in it. If I can taste the mustard, you’ve put in too much. But without it they are just bland, mushy lumps of nothing at all. And if you are going to put celery in, OK, but have the decency to pull out your potato peeler and peel the strings off first. Celery strings plus crab lumps equals about the most disgusting texture known to mankind. And crabcakes should not taste like Old Bay. Old Bay seasoning is for boils, not cakes. The water soaks away the bitter elements and leaves behind the goodness. Don’t use it in anything else please. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/156 "2017-07-21T14:27:44Z")
> [@Textual\_Innuendo](#): > > _Snerk_. Five Guys on its best day isn’t even in this running. It’s like the pee-wee junior boxing championship winner against Mayweather or Tyson in his prime. > > Five Guys is what poor, deluded, east-coasters who have never known any better think of as a “good burger,” and we just don’t have the heart to tell them they’re the anosmic Helen Kellers of burger aficionados. > > To anyone who thinks this was even a contest, enjoy paying 3x as much for 1/10th the quality, I’ll be at In-n-Out having burgers the way Gordon Ramsey, Thomas Keller, Julia Child, David Chang, Anthony Bourdain, and god himself think burgers should be done. I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. ---
**Author:** ![Textual\_Innuendo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/898d66/32.png) [@Textual\_Innuendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Textual_Innuendo)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/157 "2017-07-21T15:15:22Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I find your ideas intriguing and would like to subscribe to your newsletter. Subscription dues are one 3x3 animal style and a chocolate shake, to be mailed to the following address… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/158 "2017-07-21T15:39:09Z")
> [@Acsenray](#): > > Just within a couple of miles of me there is Good Stuff Eatery, Five Guys, Shake Shack, Burger 7, Burger Tap & Shake, Ray’s Hellburger, BGR The Burger Joint, > Holy Cow, All About Burger, Elevation Burger, Ollie’s Trolley, Fuddruckers, and a whole bunch of places I’ve never tried. NONE of these places with locations on the east coast serve a decent burger competitive with In-N-Out? You really mean to assert that? The U.S. is experiencing a massive meat-on-bun renaissance. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/159 "2017-07-21T16:21:37Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > I think hard taco shells were created to introduce lazy gringos to Mexican food. You would be correct, at least in this country. Mexicans have been doing _tacos dorados_ for centuries. But it was Glen Bell who introduced the hard shell taco to America when he opened the first Taco Tia back in the 50s in San Bernardino, CA. He then sold that chain and went on to bigger things by founding Taco Bell. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [July 21, 2017, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663/160 "2017-07-21T17:44:46Z")
> [@TruCelt](#): > > And none of this “Raspberry” crap either. They never add any actual raspberries, so what are they even doing to it? Blech! Don’t worry. It’s probably only [beaver anal scrapings](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castoreum#Food_use)! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-food-feuds-you-know-of-where-do-you-stand-on-them/791663.md?page=9)