# Any gay male Dopers think Spike is hot? (Buffy thread) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [July 5, 2002, 8:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467 "2002-07-05T08:07:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/21 "2002-07-07T05:07:19Z")
Well, here’s my list of BTVS characters I’d do. 1.Spike (pre-chip) 2. Spike (post-chip) 3. Giles 4. Willow 5. Tara 6. Dru 7. Faith 9. Oz ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/22 "2002-07-07T05:19:57Z")
How come Kendra never gets mentioned in these threads? :rowr: ---
**Author:** ![TVGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@TVGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/23 "2002-07-07T05:22:57Z")
Male and very gay here (I figured if the str8 folks could proclaim their het lifestyles [me thinks they protest too much], then I could proclaim my fag-ness) Yes, Spike is ‘hot’ - - _yawn_ I’m more of a Xander kind of guy myself. I love the slightly vulnerable, cuddly ones 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c67d28/32.png) [@Weird\_AL\_Einstein](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weird_AL_Einstein)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/24 "2002-07-07T06:01:43Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JohnT \* > \*\*How come Kendra never gets mentioned in these threads? :rowr: \*\* She was hot, no question, but her character was never developed. **pepperlandgirl** : Now you’ve got me curious to know who #8 is… ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 7:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/25 "2002-07-07T07:15:52Z")
LOL. Ooops. 8-Angel ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/26 "2002-07-07T17:28:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by TVGuy \* > \*\*Male and very gay here (I figured if the str8 folks could proclaim their het lifestyles [me thinks they protest too much], then I could proclaim my fag-ness) > > Yes, Spike is ‘hot’ - - _yawn_ > > I’m more of a Xander kind of guy myself. I love the slightly vulnerable, cuddly ones 🙂 \*\* A gay doper from Oregon? _does a little dance_ I’m not the only one! ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/27 "2002-07-07T17:39:21Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by JohnT \* > \*\*How come Kendra never gets mentioned in these threads? :rowr: \*\* I’m thinkin’ it’s because the really, really bad accent makes her ridiculous and takes away her appeal. But yeah, the actress is beautiful. ---
**Author:** ![TVGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/82dd89/32.png) [@TVGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVGuy)\ **Post date:** [July 7, 2002, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/28 "2002-07-07T19:48:55Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Hastur \* > \*\* > > A gay doper from Oregon? > > _does a little dance_ > > I’m not the only one! \*\* Yeah **Hastur** , haven’t you heard, we’re taking over… just ask Lon Mabon! ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/29 "2002-07-08T18:47:19Z")
Don’t watch the show, but I know the basics, so I’ll give my list: 1. Riley 2. Xander 3. Angel (Preferably all three at once.) The rest of them I wouldn’t even be remotely interested in - _especially_ Spike. Blegh! Esprix ---
**Author:** ![Ferrous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Ferrous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferrous)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/30 "2002-07-08T19:10:34Z")
Now why did I think I’d be the first guy to say “I’m straight, but I still think Spike is hot!”? Shuld have known better.🙂 Anyway, list of Buffy guys I’d do, if I did guys, in order: 1. Spike 2. Um… Okay, I guess that’s it really. With the others, I know they’re attractive, but they don’t make me go “Yow! If I was gay…” like Spike does. Oz is cute, though… And just for the record, Willow is by far the most attractive babe on the show, IMO. Buffy isn’t even in the top 5. ---
**Author:** ![MrVisible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/46a35a/32.png) [@MrVisible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrVisible)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/31 "2002-07-08T19:39:06Z")
Spike has always seemed kinda skanky to me. Not attractive at all. I think I’m freaked out by the vampire thing, too; I wouldn’t be interested in him or Angel, just because I like my men to have a pulse. And a reasonable body temp. And to not smell of the grave. Ew. I would, though, in a major way, go for Gunn. Strong, sensitive, caring, studley, handsome, funny… Yum. ---
**Author:** ![SisterCoyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/958977/32.png) [@SisterCoyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SisterCoyote)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/32 "2002-07-08T22:18:21Z")
My list: 1. Oz. End of discussion. 2. Willow 3. Angel 4. Giles and/or Wesley…depending on what exactly I was looking for at the mo… 5. Gunn AND Fred 6. Xander And those are really the only ones who do anything for me. Spike? Blecch. (This, despite the fact that my roommate turns into a drooling idiot when he’s on screen.) On a completely unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that (other than Giles) there’s not a single healthy father figure anywhere in either series? ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/33 "2002-07-08T22:26:02Z")
I wonder…how many people in this thread base their attraction purely on physical attributes as opposed to what the characters are like? ---
**Author:** ![Eats\_Crayons](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Eats\_Crayons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eats_Crayons)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2002, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/34 "2002-07-08T23:44:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrVisible \* > \*\*I would, though, in a major way, go for Gunn. Strong, sensitive, caring, studley, handsome, funny… Yum. \*\* Oo! That made me think of Wesley. Not the wimpy-ass Wesley that tried to replace Giles as Buffy’s Watcher, but the “I wasn’t thinking about you while you were here.” Badass, chip-on-his-shoulder Wesley. **Pepperlandgirl** This may answer your question. Physically, Wesley is so-so. But he’s samrt, and has a bit a dark side that I find rather hot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@The\_Asbestos\_Mango](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Asbestos_Mango)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/35 "2002-07-09T00:12:45Z")
Um, speaking as a straight female who would still think Spike was hot if I was gay (think I mentioned that already. Oh, well) If I was basing it strictly on physical attributes, Spike would be third behind Riley and Angel, neither of whom do anything for me. Angel was a plot device (still haven’t seen the spin-off, still not interested, unless James Marsters is doing a guest spot) and Riley was just plain boooooooorrrrrrrrriiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnngggggggg. Although I must admit I’m a sucker for a peroxide blonde with a British accent, even if it is, um, extremely well acted. (Also a rabid Billy Idol fan). But Spike has it all. He’s mysterious, compact but muscular… oh God, I’m quoting Xander. But he has this brooding sexuality about him, also an element of danger, and he looks adorable on his knees in front of Buffy, especially when she’s being totally rejecting of him (“Fool for Love”) And I do think the vampire thing gives him a certain mystique. OK, so I’m a sick puppy. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/74df32/32.png) [@The\_Devil\_s\_Grandmother](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Devil_s_Grandmother)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/36 "2002-07-09T02:40:09Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by SisterCoyote \* > \*\*On a completely unrelated note, has anyone else noticed that (other than Giles) there’s not a single healthy father figure anywhere in either series? \*\* The character of Fred’s father, while breif, seemed normal enough. Actually, both her parents seemed pretty normal. Hank was ok until he vanished in Spain, a character developement that was never explained. Spike is hot, but I’d far rather let Giles turn my crank. ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/37 "2002-07-09T03:00:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Pepperlandgirl This may answer your question. Physically, Wesley is so-so. But he’s samrt, and has a bit a dark side that I find rather hot. I was just wondering because if I ever met James Marsters on the street, he probably wouldn’t do much for me. He is rather thin and gaunt. However, _Spike_ drives me absolutely crazy, because, well, he’s spike. ---
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/38 "2002-07-09T05:05:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by pepperlandgirl \* > \*\*I wonder…how many people in this thread base their attraction purely on physical attributes as opposed to what the characters are like? \*\* I think you and I have talked about this…and it’s all about the character. True, i think JM is a beautiful man, but awfully severe. And blech in his natural haircolor. But SPIKE? Spike is IT…absolutely IT. Sexy, bad, complicated, funny as hell, vulnerable and British. It just doesn’t get much better than that… oooo… I gotta get back to my editing… ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/39 "2002-07-09T05:47:15Z")
Yes! Go back to editing! I personally think you should devote every waking minute to editing… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![erislover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/71e660/32.png) [@erislover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/erislover)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2002, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467/40 "2002-07-09T12:10:15Z")
Oh, **pepper** , my “attracted to person” list is much different. That puts Cordelia at the top, followed by buffy, then Willow, then Giles, Spike. (by the way, pepper, how was FFT? Did you manage to finish it?) But Alyson+WillowCharacter= incredible, and ASH+Giles= incredible. SMG+Buffy is still better than your average person on the street, no doubt, but she can’t compare to her supporting cast IMO. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-gay-male-dopers-think-spike-is-hot-buffy-thread/117467.md?page=3)