# Any Go players here?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 17, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774 "2009-05-17T19:24:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alive_At_Both_Ends)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/1 "2009-05-17T19:24:59Z")

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Also known as Weiqi or Baduk.

ISTR one or two people mentioning (in passing) that they played. Maybe we could get a game going here. (Do I need to ask permission from the mods for this?) Or perhaps I could do online teaching (I’m amateur 3 dan).

Any takers?

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/2 "2009-05-17T20:35:58Z")

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Sadly life is too short for both Go and chess.

But I’ve had several chess games here (as you suggest, I cleared it with the Mods first).

Can you display the game for spectators?

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**Author:** ![Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alive_At_Both_Ends)\
**Post date:** [May 17, 2009, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/3 "2009-05-17T20:44:42Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Can you display the game for spectators?

I was intending to, but I need to think about how best to do this. Go doesn’t really lend itself to algebraic notation, but I don’t know how to post graphic diagrams here, or if it’s even possible.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/4 "2009-05-18T02:39:26Z")

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> [@glee](#):
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> Sadly life is too short for both Go and chess.
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> But I’ve had several chess games here (as you suggest, I cleared it with the Mods first).
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> Can you display the game for spectators?

Next, glee is going to tell me that he has played Shogi.  
I have bought a book on Go, understand the premise, but I don’t think I have actually ever played a game.

Same for Shogi, for that matter.

\*I bumbled through 3 games of Shogi in clubhouse games for the Nintendo DS, but, not a fair pass at it.

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**Author:** ![Meeko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e495f1/32.png) [@Meeko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meeko)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/5 "2009-05-18T02:41:12Z")

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This link seems to fit in here:  
www.zillionsofgames.com

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**Author:** ![glee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b5a626/32.png) [@glee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glee)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/6 "2009-05-18T09:20:40Z")

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> [@Meeko](#):
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> Next, glee is going to tell me that he has played Shogi.

I’ve only played a couple of games of Go (I read a book on it and discussed it with a club player).  
I’ve never played Shogi (though … I’ve read a book on it!)

I’ve played chess variants (Kriegspiel, Losing chess) and even invented one (Madrasi chess).

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**Author:** ![MindWanderer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d78d45/32.png) [@MindWanderer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MindWanderer)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/7 "2009-05-18T09:30:20Z")

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I’ve played Go a very little bit, but I have no understanding of it. It’s a very confusing game to me.

I played GNUGO against the computer, and Go computers are pretty bad, from what I’ve heard, but I got crushed :).

And I played Go on Yahoo a couple times, but one of my opponents thought I was throwing the match or something (I wasn’t)

But nonetheless, Go is a fascinating game to watch good players at. I find the spacial structures of Go to be very interesting. Go seems to require the ability to see the big picture to a very large extent, while also keeping the tactics in mind as well.

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**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/8 "2009-05-18T11:56:09Z")

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I do! Or did. I haven’t played in uh, years. \>.\>

I was ranked about 12 kyu in the UK though. I played on KGS, although I’ve stopped for a good while now.

Actually it’s rather easy to keep a record of a Go game, it’s just hell to keep up if you don’t have a board. 😛

I honestly wouldn’t mind a teaching game, but I’m afraid I’d be too rubbish to even begin!

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**Author:** ![Tabby\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tabby\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabby_Cat)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/9 "2009-05-18T12:09:48Z")

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Well here we go!

[Sensei’s Library](http://senseis.xmp.net/?OngoingGame) has a very useful “ongoing game” section, where two people can play a game and have it displayed in graphical format!

Incidentially, I love Sensei’s Library. Just thought I’d let you know.

EDIT: Of course, there’s no need to have the game linked to the “ongoing game” page.

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/10 "2009-05-18T12:20:15Z")

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I’ve played Go and Shoji. I’m really bad at Go, though. I need a 3 stone handicap to beat the computer on a 9\*9 board.

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**Author:** ![Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/73ab20/32.png) [@Alive\_At\_Both\_Ends](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alive_At_Both_Ends)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2009, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-go-players-here/496774/11 "2009-05-18T15:02:57Z")

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> [@MindWanderer](#):
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> I played GNUGO against the computer, and Go computers are pretty bad, from what I’ve heard, but I got crushed :).
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> And I played Go on Yahoo a couple times, but one of my opponents thought I was throwing the match or something (I wasn’t)

Gnugo is quite good, as Go programs go. I would expect it to crush a beginner. I can beat it, though. Any dan player ought to be able to. As you say, Go programs aren’t very advanced yet.

As for Yahoo, it’s got a bad reputation among Go players. Too many obnoxious kids and too much general rudeness.

> [@Tabby\_Cat](#):
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> I do! Or did. I haven’t played in uh, years. \>.\>
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> I was ranked about 12 kyu in the UK though. I played on KGS, although I’ve stopped for a good while now.
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> Actually it’s rather easy to keep a record of a Go game, it’s just hell to keep up if you don’t have a board. 😛
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> I honestly wouldn’t mind a teaching game, but I’m afraid I’d be too rubbish to even begin!

I can give you 9 stones if you like. We could play on SL. Interested?
