# Any good reason to keep Pelosi as speaker?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 6, 2020, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919 "2020-11-06T19:48:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/101 "2021-01-26T22:23:02Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Ok, but outside of a few loud lefties on Twitter, no one else wants that.

I know. It’s truly sad. The Democratic Party of today has turned into what the Republicans were pre-Reagan.

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**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/102 "2021-01-26T22:32:51Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Ok, but outside of a few loud lefties on Twitter, no one else wants that.

Actually, [every](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/01/30/most-americans-see-labor-unions-corporations-favorably/) one of [those policies](https://www.kff.org/report-section/the-kaiser-family-foundation-washington-post-climate-change-survey-green-new-deal/) has the [majority of Democrats](https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/09/29/increasing-share-of-americans-favor-a-single-government-program-to-provide-health-care-coverage/) behind it. I don’t have the Venn diagram of the groups behind those surveys, but I’m pretty sure it’s a tight set of circles.

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/103 "2021-01-27T00:23:43Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> My guess is that she’s good at fund raising and has a lot of personal connections/ass kissing with rich donors. That is, unfortunately, an important skill in politics,

Hugely important and as you surmised [she](https://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/nancy-pelosi-house-democrats-fundraising-110777) [is very, very](https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/15/politics/nancy-pelosi-fundraising-democrats/index.html) [good at it](https://thehill.com/homenews/house/478537-pelosi-raises-record-87m-in-2019).She is apparently considered the most [successful non-Presidential political fundraiser of all time](https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/04/the-nancy-pelosi-problem/554048/) and as that last article notes she is considered a pretty savvy operator generally by outside researchers.

Whether that means she is still the right person for the job is of course an open question. She has definitely fumbled the ball a time or three (though so do all political leaders) and you can make a solid argument that it is time for new blood. But she is very sharp and her ability to beat back multiple internal rebellions in the DP speaks to how adroit she is politically.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/104 "2021-01-27T06:22:03Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> Sometimes I wonder if Nancy Pelosi’s main skill is somehow convincing everyone she’s a political mastermind. I hear this constantly, and yet I’ve never seen any evidence of it. What is she supposed to be so great at? The democrats under her watch are basically the Washington Generals to the Repoublican Harlem Globetrotters. They put up some token resistance that gives us the impression that the republicans have some sort of opposition, but they can’t ever manage to win, despite having the natural advantage of being behind the policies that a vast majority of Americans support

**We won the fucking White House and the goddamn Senate. We still control the House. Win, win win. Dont give me those loser shit. It is totally, utterly false.**

trump was scared of her.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/105 "2021-01-27T06:28:10Z")

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It’s not the Democratic party- the _voters_ dont want that.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/106 "2021-01-27T07:09:53Z")

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We’ll see if anything happens that the republicans don’t want. I have my doubts that the democratic party can do anything at all.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/107 "2021-01-27T18:29:42Z")

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Have you been in a cave? Did you just see that stream of executive orders, most of which “the republicans don’t want”?

Have you seen those cabinet members OKed by the Senate?

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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/108 "2021-01-27T20:21:56Z")

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the filibuster cannot be used on reconciliation bills so that likely will happen with some bills if they can’t get 60 votes. Right now the Dems don’t seem to have 50 votes to remove the filibuster but that can change.

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**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/109 "2021-01-28T02:15:22Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Right now the Dems don’t seem to have 50 votes to remove the filibuster but that can change.

And they dont and they shouldnt …_yet._ But when Moscow Mitch starts stopping every…single… bill… things will change.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/110 "2022-09-16T16:51:18Z")

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In theory, I think new blood would probably be for the best, but of course it depends on who gets the gavel. Not all House Dems would be well-suited in the role.

And see:

> **[Pelosi won't say if she wants to stay in charge. But will House Democrats let...](https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/16/politics/nancy-pelosi-future-speaker/index.html)**
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> Nancy Pelosi sidestepped a question this week about whether she wants to continue leading House Democrats after November -- but her own members are divided about whether they'd let that happen.

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**Post date:** [September 16, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/111 "2022-09-16T17:37:05Z")

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i’m gonna bet on pramila japayal should she hold her seat for a good number of years, eventually being speaker one day.

i am way more concerned about mccarthy becoming speaker than pelosi hanging on to the title for a bit longer.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/112 "2022-09-21T11:07:04Z")

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On the one hand, I think Pelosi needs to be seen to appoint an heir-apparent or “apprentice” to her job just in case, in order to quell concerns about her age and show Democrats have a deep bench. On the other, anyone they choose will be used in attack ads almost immediately.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/113 "2022-09-21T12:34:45Z")

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I don’t think that’s how it works. If there is an opening for Speaker, various House members put their names forward and then there’s an election. We don’t need an heir apparent.

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**Post date:** [September 21, 2022, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/114 "2022-09-21T13:25:54Z")

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We have a Vice-President if the POTUS drops dead. I’ prefer as few avenues as possible for mischief. I know it’s not how it’s done, but I’m just suspicious of the “usual” ways we do things these days.

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**Post date:** [September 22, 2022, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-good-reason-to-keep-pelosi-as-speaker/924919/115 "2022-09-22T08:56:30Z")

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It’s entirely possible that they have an unofficial candidate in mind, just in case something happens. It could be that there’s no official designation, so us laypeople wouldn’t be aware of it, but they’re already getting an education into the job and its responsibilities.

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