# Any Indian movies that are NOT musicals? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 25, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513 "2008-10-25T15:44:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/1 "2008-10-25T15:44:42Z")
Bollywood films are growing in popularity, but it seems like all of them – not the majority, or most of them, but all – are musicals. Even when there’s not much music throughout the rest of the film, there will always be several points in a movie where things are normal, and then it’s ♪♬ जगत भर की रोशनी के लिये ♪♬ सूरज रे तू जलते रहना ♪♬ for what seems like no determinable reason. So, are there Indian movies that are NOT musicials; that is, it’s just normal acting without people breaking out into song and/or dance, period? There must be, but are any of them even going to be available at my local library or Blockbuster? ---
**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/2 "2008-10-25T15:58:22Z")
[Monsoon Wedding](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0265343/) ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/3 "2008-10-25T15:59:55Z")
Yes, but from what I understand they are the equivalent of US “art house” movies. An Indian friend explained that there is essentially no pop music in India that is not from a movie soundtrack. I have seen Bollywood movies that have had less music. Drona only had 4 numbers (I think), and I was disappointed. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/4 "2008-10-25T16:16:34Z")
I saw _Fire_ fairly recently - no singing and dancing in that one. I’d recommend it. (I mean, I like my singing and dancing too, just not necessarily in the middle of my heart-wrenching lesbian drama.) ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/5 "2008-10-25T18:36:54Z")
[Water](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240200/). I doubt it was popular in India, though (there were mass protests about it) ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/6 "2008-10-25T22:31:36Z")
One of the greatest directors in the history of cinema was Satyajit Ray. Try to find his Apu Trilogy. It won’t be easy to find, but it will be well worth it. ---
**Author:** ![Martha\_Medea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/43a26b/32.png) [@Martha\_Medea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martha_Medea)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/7 "2008-10-25T22:48:50Z")
[The Bandit Queen](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0109206/) ---
**Author:** ![Washoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ecae2f/32.png) [@Washoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Washoe)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/8 "2008-10-26T03:24:38Z")
Uh…I have a stupid question. Are Bollywood DVD’s subtitled in English? I assume that they _must_ be, but whenever I’m in an Indian restaurant or market, whatever is playing on the TV set never has subtitles turned on, so I’m wondering. For some strange reason I frequently find the music and dancing oddly mesmerizing, and I’d even be willing to rent one now and then, but I’d sure like to know what they’re saying. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/9 "2008-10-26T03:57:27Z")
> [@Washoe](#): > > Uh…I have a stupid question. Are Bollywood DVD’s subtitled in English? I assume that they _must_ be, but whenever I’m in an Indian restaurant or market, whatever is playing on the TV set never has subtitles turned on, so I’m wondering. For some strange reason I frequently find the music and dancing oddly mesmerizing, and I’d even be willing to rent one now and then, but I’d sure like to know what they’re saying. Yes. India has one of the highest English literacy rates of any non-English-speaking country, and it serves as the common language of a nation that has [22 major languages](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India), and hundreds of minor ones. All of the Bollywood films I’ve seen in US theaters have had English subtitles. Do rent some. There have been [threads here where people have asked for Bollywood recommendations](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474777). ---
**Author:** ![II\_Gyan\_II](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/bbe5ce/32.png) [@II\_Gyan\_II](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/II_Gyan_II)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/10 "2008-10-26T07:37:03Z")
Many of the titles cited above aren’t “Bollywood” movies, as such. Bollywood has become a catch-all term to include Hindi movies made by the (major) production houses in Mumbai, India - the original connotation of ‘Bollywood’ - as well as productions with a cast/crew predominantly of Indian origin dealing usually with Indian topics, but not necessarily in Hindi or made by a Mumbai production co. Many films by Deepa Mehta or Mira Nair or some of Shekhar Kapoor’s fall into the latter category and are not exactly Bollywood. Satyajit Ray’s films aren’t Bollywood. To answer the OP, Bollywood movies without songs are rare. The first couple that spring to mind are [Khamosh](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089413/), [New Delhi Times](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0089678/). The newly released [A Wednesday](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1280558/) has no songs. There are a few more, but none come readily to mind. ---
**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2008, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-indian-movies-that-are-not-musicals/469513/11 "2008-10-26T10:53:33Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > An Indian friend explained that there is essentially no pop music in India that is not from a movie soundtrack. That’s not true. There are plenty of Indian pop bands whose songs have no connection to movie soundtracks. [Indian Ocean](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Ocean_(band)) [Shaan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaan_(singer)) (and his sister) Or, you know, you could just go to [Indian pop - Wikipedia](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_pop) Mainstream Bollywood movies that are not musicals? Hmm; I can’t think of any offhand, I must admit. The musical has always been the staple of mainstream Indian cinema, in whatever language. > [@elmwood](#): > > things are normal, and then it’s ♪♬ जगत भर की रोशनी के लिये ♪♬ सूरज रे तू जलते रहना ♪♬ for what seems like no determinable reason. This amused me very much; not least, I suppose, because I can read it. My mother was a huge fan of old Hindi movies, and I’ve picked up a love of songs from that time from her.