# Any interest in another SDMB Diplomacy Game? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 28, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058 "2011-04-28T17:38:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/1 "2011-04-28T17:38:18Z")
From time to time we’ve had some enjoyable diplomacy games. Usually we can even throw together seven players fairly quickly (although I tend to get smashed pretty quickly)… So I wanted to toss it out there - I’d be happy to run a Diplomacy game starting soon, and I was hoping that if we could get more than seven players, we might be able to try out the Modern variant for ten players: [diplom.org](http://www.diplom.org/Zine/W1995A/Mous/Modern.html) I suggest 2 turns a week, unless everyone thinks they would be pleased with a happier pace. Random draw for country assignment. If you’re interested, just post your interest and whether you would be up for a faster pace than 2 turns/week. Anyone up for some backstabbery? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2011, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/2 "2011-04-28T17:47:06Z")
It’s been a while indeed. For Modern, I’m in! ETA: I am not available approximately mid-June to mid-July. If the game starts too close to that range, I’ll have to stay out. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/3 "2011-04-29T00:30:16Z")
Sounds good. We’ll figure out the timing issue once we have all the players and people can consult their calendars. **places complementary daggers on table** Help yourselves… ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/4 "2011-04-29T00:38:24Z")
I have no idea what Diplomacy (as in the game) is… but just reading that page immediately made me interested. It seems really cool. If you could tell me how the game is played (or link me to rules) I’d love to play. I’m down for faster turns that 2 every week but I don’t think I’ll want to play if it’s any slower than that. You can rest assured that I won’t flake if we do this. You can check my track record in the Fighting Ignorants RPG thread! ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/5 "2011-04-29T01:12:27Z")
Take one of the daggers, **ACM** - you’ll need it. 😉 Here’s a rulebook for how diplomacy works: [Wizards of the Coast](http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf) The basics are a little like a mix of negotiations and chess (no chance involved in movement)… In the web version, I won’t be playing, so everyone will PM their moves to me & I’ll post a map showing the results twice a week (I’ll be using an adjudicator called jDip - you can download it for free here [http://jdip.sourceforge.net/](http://jdip.sourceforge.net/) and check it out if you want to see how it works.) The rest of the time might be needed for negotiations with the other powers - that’s a critical part of the game. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/6 "2011-04-29T01:28:05Z")
Modern intrigues me-Standard has been played out, and I refuse to play another round on the that map unless it’s a mod like 1900 which fixes certain things. Lemme think about it (because this game has a bad tendency to keep me up nights scheming in bed for hours on end…). ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/7 "2011-04-29T01:42:17Z")
I’d be into Pre-Versaille Europe or Colonial Africa. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/8 "2011-04-29T01:47:38Z")
[Link to a brief summary](http://www.diplom.org/Zine/W1995A/Mous/Modern.html) of the Modern rules & map. ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/9 "2011-04-29T04:32:10Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Modern intrigues me-Standard has been played out, and I refuse to play another round on the that map unless it’s a mod like 1900 which fixes certain things. Lemme think about it (because this game has a bad tendency to keep me up nights scheming in bed for hours on end…). Let us know - we’d love to have you play. 🙂 > [@etv78](#): > > I’d be into Pre-Versaille Europe or Colonial Africa. But not Modern? It might be fun - 10 players gives a lot of potential for intrigue and power shifts. ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/10 "2011-04-29T04:37:53Z")
If you guys are desperate to find players let me know. I like Dip but I find myself getting very distracted with it when the turns stretch out and the game winds down. Occasionally I find myself sending in orders at the last minute without ever exchanging an email and that sucks. Maybe it’s me or maybe I’ve had bad luck with “allies” around here, but none the less I’d be willing too give it another go if you need me. Don’t let me take up someone else’s space though. This modern map is intriguing but I’m a little skeptical that it will feature some unbalanced play, the lack of impassible land seems particularly jarring to me as does the bottle necks in the Middle East. ---
**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/11 "2011-04-29T04:41:58Z")
Versaille=1918 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/12 "2011-04-29T04:45:06Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Take one of the daggers, **ACM** - you’ll need it. 😉 > > Here’s a rulebook for how diplomacy works: [Wizards of the Coast](http://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf) > > The basics are a little like a mix of negotiations and chess (no chance involved in movement)… > > In the web version, I won’t be playing, so everyone will PM their moves to me & I’ll post a map showing the results twice a week (I’ll be using an adjudicator called jDip - you can download it for free here [http://jdip.sourceforge.net/](http://jdip.sourceforge.net/) and check it out if you want to see how it works.) The rest of the time might be needed for negotiations with the other powers - that’s a critical part of the game. OK, I’m in. Is there going to be a thread for us to have public negotiations in? Like “I’ll do \_\_\_\_\_ for anyone who gets **Scuba Ben** off my back”? And I’m assuming private negotiations between players are allowed, too? ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/13 "2011-04-29T04:58:04Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > there going to be a thread for us to have public negotiations in? Like “I’ll do \_\_\_\_\_ for anyone who gets **Scuba Ben** off my back”? And I’m assuming private negotiations between players are allowed, too? Nevermind. Reading the rules is answering all my questions. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/14 "2011-04-29T05:03:51Z")
We’d be happy to have you, **Omniscient** - let’s see how many people are interested? 🙂 > [@etv78](#): > > Versaille=1918 I’d been hoping to use jDip - and as far as I can tell, it doesn’t support that variant. We could do Ancient Mediterranean, Asia, Aberration V, Hundred Years’ War, Loeb9, or Renaissance… How about if we tentatively include you, and see what variants we can match with the number of players who have volunteered by Saturday - would that be an OK option? So far it looks like: 1. **Scuba\_Ben** 2. **AClockworkMelon** Potentially: 3. **etv78** 4. **JohnDiFool** 5. **Omniscient** … and it sounds like people could do faster than 2 turns/week… How about Saturday I’ll check in with folks about a faster pace. **ACM** - yeah, we’ll do a thread for public press, and PMing privately for negotiations and betrayals will be allowed. We’ll also have a second thread for non-players to kibbitz and comment. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/15 "2011-04-29T05:20:19Z")
After reading the rules it seems like two turns a week might be perfect. A year a week. Otherwise we might not have time to properly form plans with one another considering how long it might take to get back with one another’s messages. Unless we trade IM addresses or whatever. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/16 "2011-04-29T12:12:10Z")
Put me down as a potential - going to read through the game rules and make a decision. ---
**Author:** ![fubbleskag](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/c2a13f/32.png) [@fubbleskag](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fubbleskag)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/17 "2011-04-29T13:00:08Z")
> [@fubbleskag](#): > > Put me down as a potential - going to read through the game rules and make a decision. Upgrade me to “in”. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/18 "2011-04-29T14:36:15Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > OK, I’m in. > > Is there going to be a thread for us to have public negotiations in? Like “I’ll do \_\_\_\_\_ for anyone who gets **Scuba Ben** off my back”? And I’m assuming private negotiations between players are allowed, too? The last Doper Dip game I recall, it was entirely public negotiations. Having no privacy must have made that game more complex than Dip normally is. As for **AClockworkMelon** ’s example, I’ll have two of the complementary daggers please. On schedule, I’m fine with one game year per week, although I am not available Friday afternoon through Saturday night. I’m open to suggestions on how I can accommodate a Dip game with my timing restriction. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/19 "2011-04-29T14:50:39Z")
I’m in. I haven’t played a variant since… ever I think. Am I the reigning champ still? ---
**Author:** ![grimpixie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@grimpixie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/grimpixie)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058/20 "2011-04-29T16:05:11Z")
I’m keen, although rather nervous about taking on a variant - where are the standard opening moves??? Grim [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-interest-in-another-sdmb-diplomacy-game/580058.md?page=2)