# any love here for "Raising Hope" - besides mine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 7, 2011, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411 "2011-12-07T20:46:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/21 "2011-12-08T04:27:02Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > I like the show. I particularly liked the Thanksgiving episode. And BTW, the [AV Club write-up](http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-men-of-new-natesville,66147/) of the episode has more details about Marwencol, the documentary that inspired Frank’s town model (which was actually very cool). That’s just awesome. Frank will still be inappropriate (unfiltered), but now he doesn’t seem scary. He kinda scared me before. **Sally Mander** , Dillahunt was also Linda Cardellini’s abusive ex-husband on ER. ---
**Author:** ![randwill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@randwill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/randwill)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/22 "2011-12-08T04:31:34Z")
I’ve seen **Marwencol** and it’s exactly what I thought about when we first saw Frank’s miniature town. I was surprised that Frank actually gave the film a shoutout in the show. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/23 "2011-12-08T04:31:46Z")
Dillahunt was also a Terminator on “The Sarah Connor Chronicles,” and I’m loving his comic chops, too. Dude’s got talent. ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/24 "2011-12-08T08:04:03Z")
That must be why she likes cheese. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/25 "2011-12-08T08:05:07Z")
> [@Sally\_Mander](#): > > Garret Dillahunt is AWESOME! Off the top of my head: he played two thoroughly detestable characters on _Deadwood_, a creepy child molester on an episode of _Law & Order: SVU_, and a cold-blooded killer on an episode of _CSI: NY._ > To see him as Burt, a somewhat dim, but goofy and silly and completely loveable character is such fun. And the mean sheriff in Winter’s Bone. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/26 "2011-12-08T09:34:44Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > I think all the main actors from Earl have been on Hope. > > Except Nadine Velazquez . “And your husband looks like a thin version of the fat guy from Mallrats!” That just cracked me up as, let’s face it, half the people watching it were thinking “crap, he’s lost weight”. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/27 "2011-12-08T09:35:48Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Dillahunt was also a Terminator on “The Sarah Connor Chronicles,” and I’m loving his comic chops, too. Dude’s got talent. Is this his first proper comedy role? I only really knew him from Terminator but he has taken to this like a duck to water. Brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/28 "2011-12-08T12:30:24Z")
I love the show too. ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/29 "2011-12-08T13:11:52Z")
> [@Sally\_Mander](#): > > A lot of the recurring characters from \*Earl \*are on it, too. Barney, Frank, the other grocery store employee (who was the guy Joy killed), the police officer, and the lawyer. I think there have been more, but I’m drawing a blank. In the premiere, Earl himself was referenced. I like the show last year, but it’s running out of steam. I still watch, but not every episode. ---
**Author:** ![gonzoron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a6a055/32.png) [@gonzoron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzoron)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/30 "2011-12-08T13:19:55Z")
Yeah, Dillahunt deserves an Emmy. I only saw him on Terminator before, and he is amazing in both roles. The scene where Burt tries to kiss his own brain had my wife and I in stitches. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/31 "2011-12-08T15:38:33Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Is this his first proper comedy role? I only really knew him from Terminator but he has taken to this like a duck to water. Brilliant. Not outright comedy but in _No Country for Old Men_ he had a lighthearted doofus quality. The only time I relax while watching that movie was when he’s on screen. He had some funny lines as Jesus in _Daniel_. But it looks like mostly he’s been a really bad guy. He was a gang leader in _The Road_ and _Last House on the Left_. It’s kind of amazing after all those roles that we can so easily accept him as Burt Chance. ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/32 "2011-12-08T17:13:28Z")
Love the show and I think part of the reason is that most of the really funny lines are not “set ups” to a joke, just a quick word or sentence or visual out of context that will make you laugh out loud and miss the next line of dialogue. Last year’s Christmas show, with little Baby Sneezes, was brilliant! ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/33 "2011-12-08T21:56:04Z")
> [@randwill](#): > > I’ve seen **Marwencol** and it’s exactly what I thought about when we first saw Frank’s miniature town. I was surprised that Frank actually gave the film a shoutout in the show. I saw Marwencol on PBS last year, pretty amazing. Couldn’t believe it was referenced on RH! ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/34 "2011-12-10T01:55:23Z")
I love the show, right up there with Community and Modern Family for top comedy on the air today. I think my favorite part is the way Virginia mangles the English language. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/35 "2011-12-10T03:42:45Z")
> [@TBG](#): > > I think my favorite part is the way Virginia mangles the English language. And don’t her new words kinda make sense? The one I remember is “dramastically”, combining drastically and dramatically. ---
**Author:** ![Sally\_Mander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e56c9b/32.png) [@Sally\_Mander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sally_Mander)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2011, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/36 "2011-12-10T03:42:52Z")
“It’s a self-refilling prophecy!” Which actually makes sense, in a way. ---
**Author:** ![Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/face_intentionally_left_blank/32/288_2.png) [@Face\_Intentionally\_Left\_Blank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Face_Intentionally_Left_Blank)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/37 "2012-02-20T11:36:00Z")
The thread’s a few months old, but I don’t see why we can’t put it to use again. I’m surprised no one’s commented yet on the Valentine’s Day episode. Gregg Garcia has a unique talent for creating flawed, funny characters without making fun of them, and being funny without being mean-spirited. Contrast _Hope_ and _Earl_ with, say, _Everybody Loves Raymond_ or _2 and a Half Men_. If Fred Rogers had been funny, prone to making penis jokes, and had wanted to make half-hour sitcoms, they might have been _My Name is Earl_ and _Raising Hope_. So, back to the Valentine’s episode. Really well-done. So much of the history of the show comes together and brings this episode to a moving conclusion. I’m actually surprised they broadcast this show now, as it might have made an ideal series finale. For those keeping track of the Earl/Hope crossovers, Tim Stack and Patty the Daytime Hooker make an appearance Jan 31st _Gambling Again_ episode. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/38 "2012-02-20T15:15:23Z")
Yes, I saw the Valentine’s Day episode and liked it a lot. It was the sort of thing that could have been really awful but it worked (both for the viewer and Jimmy, in terms of appealing to Sabrina). ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/39 "2012-02-20T16:39:23Z")
I agree the Valentines Day episode was good. Additionally, this will allow them to add her to the show more regularly as his girlfriend, which will bring in more options for storylines. It was also a very well-written show! ---
**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2012, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411/40 "2012-02-20T18:14:37Z")
I have to wait a week after it airs to catch it on Hulu but I always enjoy the show. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-love-here-for-raising-hope-besides-mine/605411.md?page=3)