# Any New Theories on the "Mary Celeste"? **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 19, 2013, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987 "2013-07-19T23:07:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/21 "2025-05-06T13:43:50Z")
> [@Saint\_Cad](#): > > topology Topography /nitpick ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/22 "2025-05-06T14:59:27Z")
That looks like a quickie video, possibly made by an AI. Given that there is no news reports about this at all, it doesn’t make any sense. Add in finding a lifeboat on the bottom of the Atlantic, complete with remains that could be examined, etc., my boloney meter is off the scale. Why would the bodies stay with the lifeboat as it sinks to the bottom, etc.? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/23 "2025-05-06T15:11:16Z")
The Mary Celeste is officially classified as a ‘Ghost Ship’. So the obvious answer is that the crew was afraid of ghosts and all jumped ship. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/24 "2025-05-06T15:24:22Z")
This is as credible as some of the other theories. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/25 "2025-05-06T18:47:09Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > That looks like a quickie video, possibly made by an AI There was no “Intelligence” of any kind involved in the creation of that piss-poor video. Jesus Christ, that was a Hot Mess. ---
**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/26 "2025-05-06T20:37:17Z")
The video actually had movie scenes in it Hmm 🤨 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/27 "2025-05-06T20:56:50Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > This is as credible as some of the other theories. I think it’s more credible. Ghosts could explain a lot of mysteries. Flameless alcohol explosions that don’t cause significant damage yet induce people to jump into the ocean and die there instead of climbing back on the ship when there’s no sign of smoke would not explain many mysteries. If any, certainly not this one. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2025, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/28 "2025-05-06T23:33:36Z")
Are there credible sites that detail discovery of the lifeboat and DNA evidence that supposedly connects remains to descendants of passengers/crew? ---
**Author:** ![ftg](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ftg/32/2801_2.png) [@ftg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ftg)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/29 "2025-05-07T15:02:36Z")
Nope. Tried various searches. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/30 "2025-05-07T15:17:03Z")
> [@ftg](#): > > That looks like a quickie video, possibly made by an AI. Which brings up the question: can AI fabricate false stories like this? I don’t think this account (the lifeboat) is true but it does seem very specific. ETA: and why post shit like this is it isn’t true? ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/31 "2025-05-07T15:41:36Z")
Moderating: > [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > and why post shit like this is it isn’t true? Please attack the post, not the poster. This response is completely inappropriate in IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/32 "2025-05-07T16:13:59Z")
That comment was aimed at the YouTube link. Not any poster in this thread. In otherwards, why would someone post a YouTube video that contained things (shit) that wasn’t true. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/33 "2025-05-07T18:54:24Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > In otherwards, why would someone post a YouTube video that contained things (shit) that wasn’t true. To get people to watch it, of course. (I feel like I’m being whooshed) ---
**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/34 "2025-05-07T19:05:52Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > (I feel like I’m being whooshed) No, I’m not whooshing. I understand that sensational headlines get views but ultimately if you publish stuff that is easily demonstratable as false, wouldn’t it hurt your credibility in the long run? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2025, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/35 "2025-05-07T19:28:37Z")
In content farming, they’re not really thinking about building credibility, just trying to hook people into clicking on sensationalist thumbnails and titles - there is no long term plan other than to pump out articles that people will click on. ---
**Author:** ![AliInfree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@AliInfree](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AliInfree)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2025, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/36 "2025-05-17T02:37:35Z")
Could it be that the worst part of Oak Island is bad narration? …sorry. ---
**Author:** ![Melbourne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5e925/32.png) [@Melbourne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Melbourne)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987/37 "2025-05-26T00:40:27Z")
> [@Lucas\_Jackson](#): > > Which brings up the question: can AI fabricate false stories like this? Absolutely. At present, that is one of the main complaints about AI: that it silently fabricates very specific complete garbage: legal references, obituaries, biographies etc, all embedded in coherent context and language. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-new-theories-on-the-mary-celeste/663987.md?page=1)