# Any pro (American) football game ever end with one team having 4 points? College? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [October 17, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532 "2005-10-17T00:00:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![stuyguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@stuyguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuyguy)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/1 "2005-10-17T00:00:01Z")
There must be a\* few \* games that ended with one team having 2 points, from just a safety. But how about _4_ points, from 2 safeties? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cheapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@El\_Cheapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cheapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/2 "2005-10-17T00:32:03Z")
Last time in NCAA Division 1A (unless it happened this year): [10/23/2004 - Penn St. defeated Iowa 6-4.](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores104/104297/20041023NCAAFPENNST----0nr.htm) ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cheapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@El\_Cheapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cheapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/3 "2005-10-17T00:38:09Z")
[From the NFL:](http://www.nfl.com/history/randf/records/team/safeties) Most Safeties, Game 3 L.A. Rams vs. N.Y. Giants, Sept. 30, 1984 2 N.Y. Giants vs. Pottsville, Oct. 30, 1927 Chi. Bears vs. Pottsville, Nov. 13, 1927 Detroit vs. Brooklyn, Dec. 1, 1935 N.Y. Giants vs. Pittsburgh, Sept. 17, 1950 N.Y. Giants vs. Washington, Nov. 5, 1961 Chicago vs. Pittsburgh, Nov. 9, 1969 Dallas vs. Philadelphia, Nov. 19, 1972 Los Angeles vs. Green Bay, Oct. 21, 1973 Oakland vs. San Diego, Oct. 26, 1975 Denver vs. Seattle, Jan. 2, 1983 New Orleans vs. Cleveland, Sept. 13, 1987 Buffalo vs. Denver, Nov. 8, 1987 San Francisco vs. St. Louis, Sept. 8, 1996 Jacksonville vs. Pittsburgh, Oct. 3, 1999 Minnesota vs. Atlanta, Oct. 5, 2003 Dallas vs. Arizona, Oct. 5, 2003 Buffalo vs. Houston, Nov. 16, 2003 It’d have to be one of the 17 from the group tied for second to have an NFL four-pointer. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cheapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@El\_Cheapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cheapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/4 "2005-10-17T00:51:56Z")
After checking all of the above NFL games at [http://www.pro-football-reference.com/](http://www.pro-football-reference.com/), none of those games had a team with a score of 4. So, it looks like it has never happened in the NFL. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/5 "2005-10-17T01:31:19Z")
> [@El Cheapo](#): > > Last time in NCAA Division 1A (unless it happened this year): > [10/23/2004 - Penn St. defeated Iowa 6-4.](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/scores104/104297/20041023NCAAFPENNST----0nr.htm) The score is right, but the Iowa had 6 and Penn State 4. ---
**Author:** ![BobT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e8cbc/32.png) [@BobT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobT)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/6 "2005-10-17T01:36:12Z")
Also in the very early days of football (1880s) a touchdown was worth 4 points, so there are a lot of old college games where a team just had four points. A touchdown went up to 5 points in 1898. In 1904, a field goal dropped from five points to four and then down to three in 1909. In 1912 a touchdown was upped to six points. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Cheapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8e7dd6/32.png) [@El\_Cheapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Cheapo)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/7 "2005-10-17T01:48:49Z")
> [@BobT](#): > > The score is right, but the Iowa had 6 and Penn State 4. :smack: D’oh. ---
**Author:** ![\_len](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/_/c0e974/32.png) [@\_len](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/_len)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2005, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-american-football-game-ever-end-with-one-team-having-4-points-college/326532/8 "2005-10-17T02:18:11Z")
Miami (Fla) beat the University of Florida 31 to 4 in 1987. IIRC, both safeties came when Miami snaps went over the head of their punter, and out of the end zone.