# Any Pro Wrestling Fans in the Audience? (Multiple promotions) (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [May 13, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374 "2022-05-13T17:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 110
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2025, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2182 "2025-12-04T22:34:49Z")
Personally, if I were running WWE I would’ve driven a dump truck full of money up to Kurt Angle’s house and begged him to come back for one last match. Angle was Cena’s first match on the main roster, so it would’ve made a nice bookend to his career and made up for Angle’s disappointing retirement match against Baron Corbin. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2025, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2183 "2025-12-05T02:25:03Z")
I hope LA Knight beats GUNTHER on SmackDown and then beats Cena at Saturday Night’s Main Event. He needs the rub much more than GUNTHER does. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 6, 2025, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2184 "2025-12-06T05:17:22Z")
Le sigh. GUNTHER did _not_ need this win. I had no idea that he had never suffered a non-title loss on the main roster, but it doesn’t surprise me! This could have really been a big break for LA Knight! The winner of tomorrow night’s NXT Title match between Ricky Starks and Oba Femi will take on Cody Rhodes on Saturday Night’s Main Event. And Bayley will go up against Sol Ruca. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 9, 2025, 3:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2185 "2025-12-09T03:25:06Z")
I fear LA Knight may have just been written off of television for awhile. In the main event of tonight’s RAW (12/8/25), he got Stomped by the Mystery Guy, speared by Bron Breakker, Tsunamied twice by Bronson Reed, and then backstage, he caught a further beating ending in a Tsunami onto a car roof. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2186 "2025-12-14T03:06:54Z")
Oh, my God. GUNTHER just made John Cena tap out in his last match. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2025, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2187 "2025-12-14T09:52:16Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > GUNTHER just made John Cena tap out in his last match. _Oh, somewhere in this favored land The sun is shining bright The band is playing somewhere And somewhere hearts are light And somewhere men are laughing And somewhere children shout But there is no joy in DC - Mighty Cena has tapped out._ That match was a work of art. Lots of great back-and-forth, both men at their absolute finest, it felt like it could go either way until the very end. I liked the way Cena just sort of casually tapped out as if to say “I’m too old for this”. Cena goes out on his back like an old-school legend. GUNTHER is now solidly established as the top heel of this generation. You couldn’t ask for a better retirement match. Overall this was the best SNME they’ve done since the revival. They did a great job building up the NXT guys as future greats. I wish they hadn’t ended Cody/Femi on a schmozz, and the curtain call at the end of the women’s match was a little on-the-nose, but it didn’t detract from the solid match quality. The tag team match was great. The segment with Miz and R-Truth and Joe Hendry was fun. The way they kept muting the audio every few seconds when the crowd was chanting “FUCK YOU GUNTHER” was cringe as hell, seeing how this was a Peacock exclusive and didn’t air on broadcast TV so there shouldn’t have been any need to censor it. I was half-expecting the bit at the end to turn into some kind of Authority heel turn, but Trips showing Cena a montage of his career set to “I Lived” was actually pretty heartfelt and wholesome. Anyway, I’m boycotting the Royal Rumble next month, because fuck Saudi Arabia. Here’s the card for Wrestle Kingdom! - IWGP World Championship / IWGP Global Championship, winner-takes-all: Konosuke Takeshita (World) vs. Yota Tsuji (Global) - IWGP Women’s Championship / STRONG Women’s Championship, winner-takes-all: Saya Kamitami (STRONG) vs. Syuri (IWGP) - NEVER Openweight Championship: EVIL (c) vs. Aaron Wolf - IWGP Tag Team Championship: Knockout Brothers (Oskar & Yuto-Ice) (c) vs. The Mighty Don’t Kneel (Zack Sabre Jr. & Ryohei Oiwa) - Tag team battle royal for the NEVER Openweight Six-Man Tag Championship: Toru Yano, Master Wato, & YOH (c) vs. TBA - #1 contender for the IWGP Jr. Heavyweight Championship: El Desperado vs. Kosei Fujita vs. Taiji Ishimori vs. SHO - Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada (Tanahashi’s retirement match) - Kaisei Takechi vs. TBA I think Tanahashi/Okada is main eventing, and it ought to be a fight for the ages. The two winner-take-all matches ought to be good as well, and NJPW ranbos (ranbo is what they call a battle royal) are always goofy fun, ESPECIALLY when Toru Yano is involved. Kaisei Takechi is apparently a boy band singer who’s started dipping his toe into wrestling lately, mostly in comedy promotion DDT, so I guess he’s the Japanese equivalent of Logan Paul, and it’ll be interesting to see what he’s capable of. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2188 "2025-12-16T01:07:32Z")
Cody Rhodes attacked Drew McIntyre at his house. > **[Cody Rhodes Attacks Drew McIntyre At His House](https://stillrealtous.com/cody-rhodes-attacks-drew-mcintyre-at-his-house/)** > > Cody Rhodes has been locked into a heated feud with Drew McIntyre for months now, but Drew has been suspended since the November 7th episode of Friday night SmackDown. Nick Aldis went to Drew McIntyre’s home to talk about Drew getting reinstated, and... ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2189 "2025-12-16T03:30:47Z")
The masked man turned out to be Austin Theory. Ho-hum. In other news, Bleacher Report gives John Cena’s retirement tour an F grade. > **[Grading John Cena's 2025 Retirement Tour With WWE](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25323035-grading-john-cenas-2025-retirement-tour-wwe)** > > When it was announced that wrestling legend John Cena would walk away from full-time in-ring competition in 2025, the WWE Universe was left wondering how his retirement tour would unfold. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2190 "2025-12-16T03:49:53Z")
I can’t remember WWE doing a masked man / mystery box angle where the eventual reveal WASN’T an underwhelming letdown. The leader of RETRIBUTION was Mustafa Ali. Erick Rowan’s monster in a box was a toy spider. The Higher Power was Vince McMahon in a robe. The hacker protecting Otis’ reputation was Mustafa Ali. The blackmail evidence being held over Kurt Angle’s head was that Jason Jordan was his son. They completely forgot about the “lockbox” of evidence Shane McMahon had against his dad. Kaitlyn’s secret admirer was AJ Lee. Vince’s hired gun to keep Kofi Kingston from getting a world title match was Mustafa Ali. (A LOT of these involved Mustafa Ali for some reason). I’m 99% sure they always start these angles with no idea of where they want to go with it and then just pull something out of their ass. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [December 16, 2025, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2191 "2025-12-16T04:32:04Z")
Some more underwhelming letdowns: –The Giant Egg was just some guy in a turkey suit –The Undertaker’s Stalker was DDP –Kane’s “unmasking” –the time they “unmasked” VADER –the mystery tag team partner was Savio Vega –the secret RAW general manager is Hornswoggle(also the reveal that he was Vince’s illegitimate son) ---
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WCW had The Black Scorpion playing magic tricks and menacing Sting. He was originally played by Al Perez, with obvious dark skin. They parted ways with Perez and later revealed TBS to be Ric Flair, who was much paler and couldn’t keep all his blond hair under the mask. Flair has eaten so much crap on behalf of his employers. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 17, 2025, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2193 "2025-12-17T02:30:49Z")
Some pleasant news today: The original La Parka tweeted out a thank-you to WWE Hall of Famer, “The Enforcer” Arn Anderson, for protecting the luchadores against some of the backstage racism in WCW back in the day. > **[The Original La Parka Praises Arn Anderson For Defending Luchadors Against...](https://wrestlingnews.co/wwe-news/park-praises-arn-anderson-defending-luchadors-against-racism-wcw/)** > > Lucha libre legend Adolfo Tapia, best known to American audiences as the original La Parka during his tenure in World Championship Wrestling (WCW), publicly thanked WWE Hall of Famer Arn Anderson today for his support during the late 1990s. In a post... I’ve always _known_ Double A was a stand-up guy. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2025, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2194 "2025-12-18T01:08:51Z")
Last night on NXT, Thea Hail pinned Blake Monroe and won the women’s North American Championship… _on accident_, because Blake got the wind knocked out of her and didn’t kick out at 2 like she was supposed to. > **[Additional Details On Accidental Title Match Finish During WWE NXT -...](https://www.wrestlinginc.com/2054975/wwe-nxt-accidental-title-match-finish-additional-details/)** > > Last night, on "WWE NXT," Thea Hail won her first title through an accidental finish, with a new report offering more details on the situation. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2025, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2195 "2025-12-19T01:22:09Z")
Here’s a link to the championship match in its entirety. Notice the moments of confusion at the end. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/Vcp5ygnQUB0/maxresdefault.jpg "FULL MATCH: Blake Monroe vs. Thea Hail | WWE NXT | The CW") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vcp5ygnQUB0) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2025, 7:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2196 "2025-12-20T07:22:27Z")
Spoiler for next week’s Smackdown, which was taped tonight due to the holiday; Drew McIntyre’s title match against Cody Rhodes, scheduled for the January 9th episode in Berlin, will be a Three Stages of Hell match - best of three falls in which each fall has a different stipulation. ---
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Bandido has become the first wrestler not named Maxwell Jacob Friedman to win the Dynamite Diamond Ring. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2198 "2025-12-30T02:16:09Z")
Newly-released evidence in the WWE shareholder lawsuit shows that Vince McMahon’s retirement in 2022 was kayfabed and the plan was always for him to return nine months later and sell the company to Endeavor. > **[Court Evidence Suggests Endeavor Execs Planned Vince McMahon's 2023 WWE Return...](https://www.wrestlinginc.com/2063472/wwe-vince-mcmahon-ari-shaprio-endeavor-court-evidence-planned-return/)** > > New court evidence suggests that Endeavor/TKO executives were planning for Vince McMahon's surprising return to the WWE in 2023, following his 2022 retirement ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2199 "2025-12-30T03:49:45Z")
Current WWE Intercontinental and AAA Mega Champion Dominik Mysterio suffered a shoulder injury at the most recent AAA show, and will be out indefinitely. No word yet on whether he’ll be vacating his titles. I assume so. > **[Major Injury Update On Dominik Mysterio Provided On WWE Raw](https://www.si.com/fannation/wrestling/wwe/major-injury-update-on-dominik-mysterio-provided-on-wwe-raw)** > > The WWE Raw roster is going to be down an important member of the roster for the foreseeable future. During this week's episode of WWE Raw, Joe Tessitore reveal The Usos won the World Tag Team Title from AJ Styles and Dragon Lee in the main event of RAW. It’s Jey’s fifth reign with the belt and Jimmy’s fourth. (Jey also won once with Cody Rhodes. “We may have had a few libations.”) Overall, The Usos are now 8-time tag-team champions. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [December 30, 2025, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2200 "2025-12-30T05:06:37Z")
9-time champions, actually. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2026, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/2201 "2026-01-01T23:03:29Z")
Every WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, and SummerSlam have been added to Netflix in the US with the expiration of the Peacock deal. More minor PLEs coming later this week. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=109) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=111)