# Any Pro Wrestling Fans in the Audience? (Multiple promotions) (Part 2)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [May 13, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374 "2022-05-13T17:23:11Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/401 "2022-08-26T01:40:57Z")

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> [@D\_Odds](#):
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> Bryan Alvarez & co. Are fairly certain the All Out main event will still be Moxley/Punk.

If that’s the plan, I guess doing it this way lets him come into the match as an underdog, but it’s not really like you have to try to get Chicago to cheer CM Punk.

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/402 "2022-08-26T02:15:38Z")

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I hope Mox beats Punk in front of Punk’s own home crowd. Mox is the man in AEW, and I’m here for it.

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**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/403 "2022-08-26T02:18:56Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> people were still paying to see Hillbilly Jim.

Was it actually Hillbilly Jim? Or just some big guy with Jim’s beard and a pair of overalls?

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 26, 2022, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/404 "2022-08-26T02:46:14Z")

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The Sportster likes the story AEW is telling with Moxley and Punk, and frankly, so do I.

> **[Jon Moxley's Squash Of CM Punk On AEW Dynamite Was Brilliant](https://www.thesportster.com/aew-jon-moxley-squash-of-cm-punk-on-dynamite-was-brilliant/)**
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> No one saw that ending to the Jon Moxley vs CM Punk AEW Championship match coming. It has everyone talking, which is the sign of a brilliant move.

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/405 "2022-08-28T19:41:43Z")

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> **[Former NXT Star Seemingly Petitions For Return To Triple H-Led WWE -...](https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/former-nxt-star-seemingly-petitions-for-return-to-triple-h-led-wwe/ar-AA11aT6g?ocid=MSNHP_U646&pc=U646&cvid=0fa18cb16cdd40dbb2fe294aab877089)**
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> Patrick Clarke Jr., formerly known as Velveteen Dream, hopes to be the next Superstar to return to WWE under Triple H's regime.

idont think he should hold his breath tho

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**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/406 "2022-08-28T20:39:30Z")

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HAHAHAHAHA no. I don’t want that wannabe kiddie-fucker back in WWE.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2022, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/407 "2022-08-28T23:07:06Z")

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He’s toxic. Unless he can find a way to completely exonerate himself, his career in the public eye should be over.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/408 "2022-08-29T01:27:40Z")

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I remember some wrestling news site published the IMs he was sending a younger trainee, basically telling him he was his bitch. Fucking creepy.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/409 "2022-08-29T17:57:32Z")

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I thought it was going to be held at _Clash at the Castle,_ but apparently the finals of the Women’s Tag Team Championship Tournament between the teams of Raquel Rodriguez/Aliyah and Dakota Kai/Iyo Sky will be held tonight on RAW.

Anyone want to lay odds that Sasha Banks and Naomi will come out after the match with their _own_ tag-team titles?

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/410 "2022-08-29T18:13:28Z")

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By “own”, you probably mean new ones WWE had made as all the stories referenced Banks and Naomi leaving the titles behind when they left.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/411 "2022-08-29T20:33:30Z")

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So Naomi and Sasha will be facing whoever wins tonight at the Clash. I think HHH will want to keep Kai N Sky together, Rodriguez as a singles wrestler, and give Aliyah a one-way ticket to Palookaville.

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**Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/412 "2022-08-29T20:48:13Z")

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Problem here is that Kai and Sky are already booked for the trios match at Clash. That indicates to me that Raquel and Aliyah might win the championships.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/413 "2022-08-30T01:22:05Z")

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The match tonight was booked for the Clash. Things change. But it doesn’t matter much, I never get wrestling picks right.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/414 "2022-08-30T09:58:04Z")

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> [@nightshadea](#):
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> idont think he should hold his breath tho

> **[Former WWE NXT Star Velveteen Dream Arrested - Wrestling Inc.](https://www.wrestlinginc.com/985980/former-wwe-nxt-star-velveteen-dream-arrested/)**
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> Patrick Clark, who performed on WWE's "NXT" brand as Velveteen Dream, was recently arrested in Orlando, Florida on multiple misdemeanor charges.

Ain’t gonna happen.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/415 "2022-08-30T14:31:25Z")

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Velveteen Dream/Patrick Clark could easily have found himself upper card even under Vince. But he’s another talented wrestler who caused his own downfall. He’s as toxic as toxic can be, and the only wrestling work he will ever find will be on the most outlaw of indie outlaw shows. If he can leave the US when this is all over, some Caribbean league may find room for him, but that’s best case scenario for him. His future is digging ditches.

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**Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/416 "2022-08-30T23:16:29Z")

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Matt Riddle and Austin Theory have their first names back now.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/417 "2022-08-31T01:47:49Z")

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apparently he’s been arrested twice since that article I posted , way to go I guess

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**AEW Dark Taz/Excalibur moment of the day**

In this edition,

- Taz gets excited because a fan held up a “SERP section” sign for Serpentico and starts incorporating it into other expressions. “Who’s house? SERP’s house!” “What do you do with soup? You SERP it.”
- Taz tells Ex he doesn’t have to worry about Luther taking his job with that voice.
- Under the mask, Ex looks exactly like Taz. (He’s also 87 and has Jeff Jarrett-style blond hair)
- Taz eavesdrops on referee meetings, mainly because their room has better coffee.
- They drop references to Jeep Swenson and Ronny Garvin.\*
- Ex flubs the pronunciation of JD Drake’s name. Taz tsks and says he’s going to drop an email to Tony Kahn.

**The Workhorsemen vs. Oliver Sawyer & Manny Lo**

_Drake forces Lo to the corner and chops him across the chest._  
Taz: Yeah, Manny got chopped right there. That’ll definitely bring a lot of blood to the area of your areola and blow it up. And if they’re both blown up, that’s OK. If it’s just one, it’s embarrassing.  
Ex: _Tries to conceal laughter._  
Taz: It’s a funky look bro. Let’s be honest.

- Jeep Swenson was in WCCW in the late 80’s. He set a Guinness record for most massive biceps, but took so many steroids, he couldn’t dress himself or climb stairs. He starred as Bane in the 1997 film _Batman & Robin._ In his moment of infamy, Kevin Sullivan booked him in a WCW PPV in “The Alliance to End Hulkamania” event and named him “The Final Solution,” seemingly unaware that’s the term Hitler used when calling for the end of all Jews. WCW quickly changed his name to “The Ultimate Solution” when Jewish organizations complained.

- Ronny Garvin was known as “The Hands of Stone” in WCW, but went through a less savory character development phase. When Jimmy Valiant feuded with Jim Cornette and the Midnight Express, Garvin would dress in drag as [Miss Atlanta Lively](https://www.sportskeeda.com/wwe/ron-garvin-miss-atlanta-lively) and come to his rescue.

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**Post date:** [August 31, 2022, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/419 "2022-08-31T18:46:06Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> - Jeep Swenson was in WCCW in the late 80’s. He set a Guinness record for most massive biceps, but took so many steroids, he couldn’t dress himself or climb stairs. He starred as Bane in the 1997 film _Batman & Robin._ In his moment of infamy, Kevin Sullivan booked him in a WCW PPV in “The Alliance to End Hulkamania” event and named him “The Final Solution,” seemingly unaware that’s the term Hitler used when calling for the end of all Jews. WCW quickly changed his name to “The Ultimate Solution” when Jewish organizations complained.

I remember him in the old AWA. Massive man, didn’t really wrestle so much as being a stationary obstruction. AWA was fading then. It was just before or just after most every wrestler half-decent of better was stolen by WWE or WCW\*.

\*Not sure of the timing, my have been a WCW precursor.

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**Post date:** [September 1, 2022, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/420 "2022-09-01T07:24:11Z")

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Looks like we’ll be getting Mox vs. Punk at All Out after all. Here’s the latest card;

AEW World Championship: Jon Moxley (c) vs. CM Punk  
AEW Trios Championship: Kenny Omega & the Young Bucks vs. TBA (Dark Order or Best Friends)  
AEW Interim Women’s Championship: Toni Storm vs. Britt Baker vs. Jamie Hayter vs. Hikaru Shida  
AEW TBS Championship: Jade Cargill (c) vs. Athena  
AEW Tag Team Championship: Shane Strickland & Keith Lee vs. The Acclaimed  
All-Atlantic Championship: PAC (c) vs. Kip Sabian  
FTW Championship: Hook (c) vs. Angelo Parker  
Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Jericho  
Jungle Boy vs. Christian  
Jay Lethal & the Motor City Machine Guns vs. FTR & Wardlow  
Ricky Starks vs. Powerhouse Hobbs  
Sting, Darby Allin, & Miro vs. House of Black  
Eddie Kingston vs. Tomohiro Ishii  
Casino ladder match for a future world title shot; Claudio Castagnoli, Wheeler Yuta, Pentagon Jr., Rey Fenix, Rush, Andrade El Idolo, and Dante Martin, +1 TBA

That’s 14 matches, seven of them for a championship, on a 5-hour card, so it’s gonna be a marathon of a show.

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