# Any Pro Wrestling Fans in the Audience? (Multiple promotions) (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [May 13, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374 "2022-05-13T17:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/81 "2022-06-07T02:51:43Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > As for KO getting information from WWE HR, that would be a big no-no. No HR should ever give out that type of information. A couple months ago, Brock Lesnar tried to murder Roman Reigns with a forklift and it didn’t even cost him his title match. What’s the worst that a breach of professional ethics can result in? > [@ekedolphin](#): > > Cody should not have been wrestling with a torn pectoral, and WWE is stupid to have let him do so I’m almost 100% sure that the only reason Cody was allowed to wrestle was because Vince wanted to stick it to CM Punk for taking time off for surgery. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/82 "2022-06-07T03:09:31Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > A couple months ago, Brock Lesnar tried to murder Roman Reigns with a forklift and it didn’t even cost him his title match. What’s the worst that a breach of professional ethics can result in? I chuckled, but let me try to kayfabe it… Brock and Roman are independent contractors, so any prosecution would have been up to them and/or the local DA. Vince didn’t care as long as he was making money. But the HR person, that’s an employee, thus Vince would be liable to Ezekiel/Elias should the information be released, so that’s a big no-no. Did my explanation work? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/83 "2022-06-07T03:19:40Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Brock and Roman are independent contractors, so any prosecution would have been up to them and/or the local DA. Vince didn’t care as long as he was making money. I’m no big-city lawyer, but wouldn’t the city/state automatically prosecute an attempted murder with or without the victim’s request, especially if said attempted murder happened on live worldwide television? It seems a little different than, say, Chris Rock deciding not to press charges on Will Smith for slapping him. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/84 "2022-06-07T03:24:57Z")
The difference is that Vince is liable for his employees and not his independent contractors.\* One costs him money, the other makes him money. That’s why the breach of professional ethics matters more to Vince. \*Neither am I a big-city, or small-city, or any-type-of-city lawyer, and I have no idea if that is true or not. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2022, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/85 "2022-06-07T13:56:49Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m no big-city lawyer, but wouldn’t the city/state automatically prosecute an attempted murder with or without the victim’s request, especially if said attempted murder happened on live worldwide television? They try to prosecute, but wrestlers won’t testify against other wrestlers in court so the city/state has to give up. Sadly, it’s actually true not just wrestling storylines. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/86 "2022-06-08T13:41:15Z")
**AEW Dark Taz/Excalibur moment of the day** Taz must be on new meds or something. He made too much sense today. **Toni Storm vs Zeda Zhang** _Storm goes to the ropes, but rebounds diagonally and bounces from the perpendicular side._ Taz: Nice misdirection on that. Instead of going over on that dropdown, Zhang thought Toni Storm was gonna zing, but she zanged. Ha ha! Get it? She didn’t zing but she zanged? Ex: You got it, though. Taz: I got you pretty good there. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/87 "2022-06-08T15:56:30Z")
Not that this show is on TBS/TNT, but I wonder if Warner/Discovery wants things overall toned down after that MJF segment. Hard to tell how much is a shoot and how much is a work, but I’m certain there are aspects of both in the MJF story. Taz and Excalibur were both subdued this week. Not quite Paul Wight/Mark Henry subdued, but subdued. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2022, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/88 "2022-06-11T04:13:51Z")
Paige has announced that she will leave WWE when her contract expires on July 7. She’ll go by her real name, Saraya, going forward, and intends to wrestle again. > **[Paige, Former Divas Champion, Leaving WWE When Contract Expires July 7](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10038359-paige-former-divas-champion-leaving-wwe-when-contract-expires-july-7)** > > Former Diva ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/89 "2022-06-13T18:56:34Z")
WWE has announced its second class of NIL athletes from NCAA under their “Next in Line” program, including Auburn All-American gymnast Derrian Gobourne, Pac-12 heavyweight wrestling champion Cohlton Schultz, and Illinois tight end Luke Ford. > **[WWE awards 2nd round of NCAA NIL agreements](https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/34084127/wwe-announces-second-class-college-athletes-receive-name-image-likeness-agreements)** > > WWE has announced that 15 college athletes, including basketball, volleyball, gymnastics, cheer and dance, and football players, will receive its second round of name, image and likeness agreements. The 15 college athletes will train at the Performance Center in Orlando, and receive resources in areas such as brand building and media communications. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/90 "2022-06-13T22:12:17Z")
Jeff Hardy may have just used up his last chance. > **[Jeff Hardy Arrested For DUI, Cops Say AEW Star Had .294 BAC](https://www.tmz.com/2022/06/13/wrestling-star-jeff-hardy-arrested-again-charged-with-felony-dui/)** > > According to Florida Highway Patrol documents, obtained by TMZ Sports, Jeff Hardy had a BAC of .294 following his arrest early Monday morning. Jesus Christ, Jeff. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [June 13, 2022, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/91 "2022-06-13T23:19:15Z")
Hardy has two big matches this week, Wednesday (AEW) and Saturday (AAA). We’ll see if either promotion is still willing to use him. Heck, he may not be able to get into Mexico even if they are willing to use him. This also calls into question the actions leading to his WWE exit, which both he and Matt tried to play down. Even one (some?) of his recent AEW matches he seemed to not be 100%, but it was easy to write off that he was suffering the effects of his previous matches, especially the Darby Allen match and the match where he senton-ed Butcher and Blade through the table. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/92 "2022-06-14T12:03:04Z")
Almost 30% of his bloodstream was alcohol. Am I interpreting that right? He doesn’t just fall off the wagon. He Swan Dives off an Empire State version of the wagon. ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/93 "2022-06-14T12:11:10Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Almost 30% of his bloodstream was alcohol. Am I interpreting that right? No, off by 2 orders of magnitude. BAC is a percentage, so he had .3 % alcohol, or 3 parts per 1000. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/94 "2022-06-14T12:31:15Z")
> [@Telemark](#): > > No, off by 2 orders of magnitude. BAC is a percentage, so he had .3 % alcohol, or 3 parts per 1000. At least 3x the legal limit. This could be serious trouble for him. Life ahead for Jeff will not be good. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/95 "2022-06-14T13:50:03Z")
AEW is pausing promotion of the triple-threat tag-team title match that Jeff was supposed to be involved in tomorrow night on Dynamite. It’s probably off. I wonder if they’ll just do Jurassic Express vs. The Young Bucks with no involvement from The Hardys. > **[AEW pausing promotion of Jeff Hardy, tag team title match on Dynamite](https://www.cagesideseats.com/aew/2022/6/13/23166862/aew-jeff-hardy-arrest-tag-team-title-match-dynamite)** > > AEW has reportedly instructed WarnerMedia to no longer promote Hardy, who was arrested on multiple charges, including DUI, early Mon., June 13, 2022. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/96 "2022-06-14T16:24:36Z")
Matt Hardy comments: > ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/97 "2022-06-14T17:30:56Z")
So who’s showing up to be Elias on Monday? Is he only going to be on video? Someone else playing him? Not there at all? I figure no one will be seen for a while. No need to end this successful gimmick so soon. Someone on the Matt Hardy tweet suggested bring back Damien Sandow to play Elias. I’d like to see Sandow back but that will kill the gimmick. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/98 "2022-06-14T17:45:08Z")
It’ll be kind of a Brodus Clay thing in which they keep saying he’s coming this week, and keep pushing it back every week. (I hope not.) Damien Sandow would be cool. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2022, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/99 "2022-06-14T18:23:59Z")
Jeff Hardy has been suspended without pay by AEW: [![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVO2t3VWIAQRP_5?format=jpg&name=large) ](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FVO2t3VWIAQRP_5?format=jpg&name=large) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2022, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/100 "2022-06-15T00:27:54Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Someone on the Matt Hardy tweet suggested bring back Damien Sandow to play Elias. I’d like to see Sandow back but that will kill the gimmick. Sandow, who’s now known as Aron Stevens, announced earlier this month that his match against Trevor Murdoch at last week’s NWA PPV would be his “swan song” from pro wrestling. It’s certainly possible that he’s working everyone so as to make it a surprise when he shows up in WWE again, but if he does so I really hope he doesn’t get saddled with that celebrity impersonator gimmick again. Let him have his robe back and be the Intellectual Savior of the Masses again if anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=6)