# Any Pro Wrestling Fans in the Audience? (Multiple promotions) (Part 2) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [May 13, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374 "2022-05-13T17:23:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 68
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1342 "2024-02-27T13:32:18Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I think he was the head booker of GCW before all of the NWA territories merged to become WCW, and he got phased out. Jim Cornett said Ole called him a fag and Baby Doll a fat ho, so he wasn’t that popular backstage. He was hated as a booker, and pretty much the same as a wrestler too. But he was good. He was an unabashed racist while at the same time booking Black wrestlers without hesitation if they put asses in seats. When WCW formed they voted him off the island. He insisted he’d been cheated out of his due and he’d have kept the company from going down the drain. He’s probably right about that last part, it took a series of incredibly bad decisions to ruin that company and a paper fortune teller could have done the job better. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1343 "2024-02-27T13:59:12Z")
You could say the same thing about Bill Watts. Despite rumors of racism, he made Junkyard Dog, Ron Simmons, and Tony Atlas into stars. He also made Ernie Ladd his right-hand man to book road events. Show business has a way of breaking barriers. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1344 "2024-02-27T15:11:34Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Show business has a way of breaking barriers. Money over racism. I don’t think barriers were broken, simply that they (Anderson, Watts, and even McMahon) valued dollars over hatred. > [@Smapti](#): > > It’ll be amusing to see such a legit tough-as-nails fighter in a comedy match with a girl group singer, but I hope Jim Cornette’s heart can handle the stress that knowing about this is gonna put on it. This won’t be Suzuki’s first, or probably even 10th, comedy match. I recently watched one versus Mei Suruga (I hoped I spelled that right as I’m not looking it up now). He knows his role at his age, and is willing to take nearly any payday. Far cry from ~15 years ago when joshi were begging to be brutalized by him to prove their toughness. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1345 "2024-02-27T15:48:56Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Money over racism. I don’t think barriers were broken, simply that they (Anderson, Watts, and even McMahon) valued dollars over hatred. Some promoters wouldn’t. I don’t say that to give credit to Ole, Watts, or Vince for not being as racist as possible, just to point out it was worse that that in some territories. ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2024, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1346 "2024-02-27T20:00:21Z")
someone in jims Facebook group posted Ole’s obituary from oles local paper the one you know your family sends in … it was the most perfunctory thing ever … and acknowledged his career with one line… ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1347 "2024-02-28T17:01:04Z")
Virgil has passed away at the age of 61. > **[Virgil Has Passed Away At The Age Of 61](https://stillrealtous.com/virgil-has-passed-away-at-the-age-of-61/)** > > The wrestling world is mourning at the moment as Virgil (real name Michael Jones) has passed away at the age of 61. Mark Charles III shared the unfortunate news on Wednesday morning when he posted the following on Facebook: “My dear friends, it is... ---
**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1348 "2024-02-28T18:56:30Z")
damn… i met the guy at Halloween Havoc 95 when i went…it was a paid thing organized by a wrestling call-in show on the old “cable radio network” (which was a thing that played the music and various shows on things like public events channels some local systems used to have ) We were going to breakfast at the Imperial Palace buffet and ran into him and the host invited him along and he talked to us for about an hour in a half…there wasn’t much he could tell us but they talked about one of their infamous tours in Germany that no one wanted to be on …a the accommodations were horrible the bood awful…they were going by bus everywhere … and some of the local skinhead hooligans were causing problems to the point they were avoiding whole areas … I actually met a bunch of people from WCW that weekend so it was fun… ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2024, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1349 "2024-02-28T18:59:43Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Virgil has passed away at the age of 61. Who? Oh, _ **Vincent** _… Seriously, “Virgil” is named for Virgil Runnels, the longtime producer of WCW’s Saturday evening wrestling shows on TBS during the Jim Crockett years…oh, and I think he wrestled a little as well, under the name Dusty something-or-other. When he moved from WWE to WCW, his name changed to “Vincent”, named for Vince McMahon. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [March 2, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1350 "2024-03-02T15:19:40Z")
I’m wondering how long before Rock acknowledges Roman by laying the smackdown on his candy ass. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2024, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1351 "2024-03-10T01:51:17Z")
We’ve got stipulations galore for our Wrestlemania main events. If Cody and Seth beat Rock and Roman on night 1, then the Bloodline is banned from ringside (not that that ever stopped them from showing up anyway), and if Cody loses on Night 2, he can never challenge for the world title again because I guess we’re rehashing AEW angles from 2019 now. I’m sticking with my prediction from upthread - Rock pins Seth for the win on night 1, then turns on the Bloodline on night 2 allowing Cody to get the win. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1352 "2024-03-12T00:33:29Z")
TMZ reports that Miro and CJ Perry have called it quits, which I guess means Vince finally got his wish. > **[AEW Wrestling Stars CJ Perry And Miro Split, Marriage Over After 7 Years](https://www.tmz.com/2024/03/11/aew-stars-cj-perry-miro-split-marriage-over-rusev-lana-divorce-pro-wrestling-wwe/?adid=social-tw)** > > AEW wrestling stars C.J. Perry and Miro have called it quits on their marriage 7 years after tying the knot. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1353 "2024-03-12T03:17:26Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > I’m sticking with my prediction from upthread - Rock pins Seth for the win on night 1, then turns on the Bloodline on night 2 allowing Cody to get the win. As I kind of figured upthread, I think it’d be a more entertaining payoff to the whole ‘bloodline’ thing if Cody gets the win in Night 2 via the ‘bloodlne’ tactic of having his own wrecking crew show up to run interference by, y’know, beating the shit out of people. I mean, on the one hand, it’d be funny for that to happen in Night 2 after Night 1 sparks an agreed-upon all-hands-on-deck brawl, and both sides say, _uh, okay_ — but, on the other hand, it could also be pretty funny for Night 1 to spark a no-outside-help match on Night 2, and for Cody to bring in outside help _anyway,_ because, seriously, what’s the only reason he didn’t already become the champ? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1354 "2024-03-12T03:49:13Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > what’s the only reason he didn’t already become the champ? [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/AQunC9jniqw/maxresdefault.jpg "Evil Will Always Triumph, Because Good Is Dumb - Dark Helmet") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQunC9jniqw) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1355 "2024-03-12T04:13:59Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > As I kind of figured upthread, I think it’d be a more entertaining payoff to the whole ‘bloodline’ thing if Cody gets the win in Night 2 via the ‘bloodlne’ tactic of having his own wrecking crew show up to run interference by, y’know, beating the shit out of people. I don’t think they’re gonna end the Bloodline angle just yet - they’re probably gonna drag it out to next year so they can finally do Rock vs. Roman. Plus, there’s reports that Tama Tonga is coming to WWE now that he’s finished with New Japan and that they might be adding him to the Bloodline in some capacity. (He’s not a blood relation of the Anoa’is, but he’s Haku’s stepson and Dwayne refers to Haku as his uncle which is probably close enough.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2024, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1356 "2024-03-14T05:14:42Z")
Mercedes Mone is all elite! The former Sasha Banks made her debut on Dynamite - and interestingly enough, her new theme music is a hip-hop-ified version of Dvorak’s 9th, 4th movement, which was WALTER’s music before he got called up. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/UttbtQQPcVs/maxresdefault.jpg ""The CEO” Mercedes Moné has ARRIVED in AEW! | 3/13/24, AEW Dynamite") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UttbtQQPcVs) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1357 "2024-03-16T01:37:19Z")
Darby Allin legit broke his foot on Wednesday night, so his Mt. Everest trip is off until next year. > **[Darby Allin Injured In AEW Dynamite: Big Business Match, Mt. Everest Climb...](https://www.wrestlinginc.com/1541154/darby-allin-injured-aew-dynamite-big-business-match-mt-everest-climb-postponed/)** > > Over 6,000 people have climbed Mount Everest, but AEW's Darby Allin will not be joining that club any time soon after suffering an injury on "Dynamite." ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2024, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1358 "2024-03-16T18:54:13Z")
Just as well. He’d probably film himself surfing an avalanche while Nepal is evacuated. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2024, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1359 "2024-03-25T16:53:02Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > We’ve got stipulations galore for our Wrestlemania main events. If Cody and Seth beat Rock and Roman on night 1, then the Bloodline is banned from ringside (not that that ever stopped them from showing up anyway), and if Cody loses on Night 2, he can never challenge for the world title again because I guess we’re rehashing AEW angles from 2019 now. Just to revisit this: doesn’t the showdown this past Friday make this — even for pro wrestling — even sillier? This week, Cody got solemnly promised that the Bloodline wouldn’t show up ringside for Roman; it could be just Cody and Roman, one on one. And, as you say, that of course _didn’t_ stop Roman from having the Bloodline show up ringside. And, of course, Cody had guys show up ringside as well, since he (a) of course figured that the stipulation didn’t actually mean anything and he (b) was, of course, right. So — now — what the heck is the point of that Night 1 match at Wrestlemania? If it ends with a solemn promise that the Bloodline won’t show up ringside for Roman, it’s not just that _fans_ will roll their eyes and set their expectations while snidely replying with a “not that that ever stopped them from showing up anyway”; it’s that, in kayfabe, _Cody_ is already disregarding that. Cody _canonically_ knows that, no matter what happens on Night 1, it’d be foolish to expect anything other than More Of The Same from the usual suspects, and foolish not to have other Guys In Tights there to do likewise; that’s, y’know, what he already did. They didn’t save this to be some kind of big reveal at Wrestlemania; they just, like, showcased, in prime time, on national television, that, hey, the match on Night 1 _changes nothing_; the audience could’ve been wondering right up until halfway through the main event whether Cody is gullible enough to think Night 1 mattered, or babyface enough to keep from responding in kind on Night 2, but: haven’t we now seen that the answer is _nope?_ ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1360 "2024-04-02T00:53:36Z")
Tonight on the 4/1/24 RAW, there was an _excellent_ segment in which Chad Gable helps Sami Zayn prepare for Gunther. Real _Rocky_ vibes. It was brilliant and if you missed this show, you need to look it up. ---
**Author:** ![dorvann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/df705f/32.png) [@dorvann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dorvann)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2024, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374/1361 "2024-04-02T03:33:26Z")
I am so cynical watching it I expect either Gable or Zayn to turn on the other… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=67) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-pro-wrestling-fans-in-the-audience-multiple-promotions-part-2/964374.md?page=69)