# Any rat breeders here? Want to consistently breed the ugliest rat possible. **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 3, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520 "2018-05-03T16:41:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/1 "2018-05-03T16:41:09Z")
Appearance of a typical sewer rat is okay and the cutest allowable threshold. [![](https://getridpests.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Sewer-Rat-min.jpg) ](https://getridpests.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Sewer-Rat-min.jpg) Hairless is okay I suppose, but something patchworky, and looking like it’s somewhat diseased is preferred [![](https://i1.wp.com/understandingpetfancyrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/patchwork.jpg) ](https://i1.wp.com/understandingpetfancyrats.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/patchwork.jpg) The main criteria is that it’d be consistent. Every offspring has to be ugly. I know ugliness is subjective but I think I’ve gotten my point across as to what I consider ugly. How would I go about doing this? What kind of mom and dad would I need that is readily available to buy? ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/2 "2018-05-03T16:45:07Z")
Um … WHY? :eek: ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/3 "2018-05-03T16:56:34Z")
So you have feeders without regrets? ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/4 "2018-05-03T17:01:51Z")
> [@](#): > > So you have feeders without regrets? No, so I can make this silly pun on a regular basis. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WymMLwNiP9A/hqdefault.jpg "Indiana Jones Pun") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WymMLwNiP9A) ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/5 "2018-05-03T17:09:01Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > So you have feeders without regrets? “No Regrats!” ---
**Author:** ![Maastricht](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a88e57/32.png) [@Maastricht](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maastricht)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/6 "2018-05-03T17:09:45Z")
Why would you want to breed a rat that may be uncomfortable, just for shits and giggles? Only recently people have become a[ware of the suffering they inflict on dog breeds.](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pedigree-dogs-exposed/) > [@](#): > > Pedigree dogs are suffering from genetic diseases following years of inbreeding, an investigation has found. A BBC documentary says they are suffering acute problems because looks are emphasised over health when breeding dogs for shows. The programme shows spaniels with brains too big for their skulls and boxers suffering from epilepsy. If you want to make that stupid pun, and yet have any damn heart in you, go to the nearest pound and take home a disabled rescue animal. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/7 "2018-05-03T17:24:52Z")
> [@Maastricht](#): > > Why would you want to breed a rat that may be uncomfortable, just for shits and giggles? Only recently people have become a[ware of the suffering they inflict on dog breeds.](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/pedigree-dogs-exposed/) > > If you want to make that stupid pun, and yet have any damn heart in you, go to the nearest pound and take home a disabled rescue animal. Ah geeze. I forgot where I was . I should have asked why Trump’s skin is orange. I wouldn’t have had my motivations questioned, and a lecture to boot. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/8 "2018-05-03T17:29:48Z")
Not sure what you expect when you say you want to breed an animal which would have uncomfortable, potentially health-threatening genetic traits. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/9 "2018-05-03T17:42:03Z")
A patchwork rat is not diseased. It just kind of looks like it is. And really, if you’re not a rat breeder, or don’t know more about rats than what you googled 5 minutes ago, I’m not really interested. No offense. ---
**Author:** ![Ashtura](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ashtura/32/2963_2.png) [@Ashtura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ashtura)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2018, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-rat-breeders-here-want-to-consistently-breed-the-ugliest-rat-possible/813520/10 "2018-05-03T18:12:25Z")
Perhaps I can re-word this factual question in a way that will get me a factual answer: “In the movies, when CGI is not used, where do they get the swarms of rats intended to gross the audience out? And how does the source produce those rats?”