# Any Situation You Might Use Chick Tracts?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [December 9, 2009, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549 "2009-12-09T02:06:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2009, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/41 "2009-12-13T06:04:57Z")

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Using it as a makeshift bookmark to mark my place in The Satanic Bible or _The Encyclopedia of the Homosexual Lovers of King James I._ Hey, I’m not disproving or mocking the ideas in the tract - a book is a book.

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/42 "2009-12-14T18:21:47Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> There’s a different Lovecraftian Chick Tract ( Lovechickian? ) [here](http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/pages/) I also found amusing.

THANK YOU!

The great thing is- No plagiarized Chick artwork that he might sic his lawyer after, as has happened with “Will You Be Eaten First?”

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/43 "2009-12-14T18:41:11Z")

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I finally came up with one 🙂

> **[For the LAST TIME...](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=543794)**
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> Keep your damned kid from roaming the halls of our apartment building late at night running, screaming and playing with her other friends. Pitted this a couple of months ago, and it’s not only started up again, it’s gotten worse. I moved into this...

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 6:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/44 "2009-12-15T06:02:13Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> THANK YOU!
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> The great thing is- No plagiarized Chick artwork that he might sic his lawyer after, as has happened with “Will You Be Eaten First?”

Technically though, wouldn’t that be protected, since it was a parody?

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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/45 "2009-12-15T10:34:16Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> Technically though, wouldn’t that be protected, since it was a parody?

Yeah, but if someone puts up a parody that uses Chick’s/Disney’s/whoever’s art & gets a “Cease & Desist” legal letter, then unless that someone has some money or oneriness to launch a legal defense, they’ll pretty likely just take it down.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/46 "2009-12-15T10:53:28Z")

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> [@FriarTed](#):
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> Yeah, but if someone puts up a parody that uses Chick’s/Disney’s/whoever’s art & gets a “Cease & Desist” legal letter, then unless that someone has some money or oneriness to launch a legal defense, they’ll pretty likely just take it down.

I’m not sure it would be protected if they use the actual art. It always seems like the art itself also has to be parodied for that defense to work.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/47 "2009-12-15T11:10:37Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> Are there any situation you might use Chick Tracts in? RULE: It must be to support the argument of whatever Chick is saying not to mock him, disprove him, etc.

You say not to mock or disprove him. So I hope this counts. I would attempt to use them “against” him to show him how he’s NOT HELPING!

Trying to use those things to show people what God is, is like…Taking someone to a slaughterhouse to show how yummy steak is.

Okay, not the best analogy, but…being crazy, not to mention dead wrong, is not a good way to bring people into the church…and Chick is bonkers.

I dunno, the only other way I can think of is a sort of “no, this is NOT what it means to be a Christian, here’s what it really means”. The comparison would, I hope, make the person so relieved that it’s not nutsville, as so many Chick types try to make it, that they might give it a chance?

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**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/48 "2009-12-15T15:59:00Z")

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> [@dhkendall](#):
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> I’m a devout Christian and I see absolutley no uses for those pieces of trash either, aside from mockery and the stuff **Lynn Bodoni** and **pedescribe** mention.
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> Even my wife’s ultra-religious friend who is intent on converting everyone within a 50 foot radius of her I wouldn’t even recommend those tracts to, as I know she’ll use them against my fellow human beings.

I agree with this 125%. I don’t want to scare people away…

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**Author:** ![SMullen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@SMullen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SMullen)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/49 "2009-12-15T17:50:42Z")

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I’ve read Chick Tracts. I have a few that I like to re-read. I haven’t ever handed any out. My favorite is “Somebody Loves Me”.

I’m personally interested in anything that will strengthen my spiritual life. Sometimes when I am feeling very bad about something, a really basic approach like the Chick Tracts use is just what I need.

However, I treat the Chick Tracts the way I treat everything else these days – I take what I can use and I leave what I can’t use. Their anti-gay and anti-Catholic rants totally leave me cold. And I don’t like the idea of telling anyone that they’re going to hell unless they do everything exactly like I do. Brrr.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/50 "2009-12-15T18:09:35Z")

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> [@Curtis LeMay](#):
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> Are there any situation you might use Chick Tracts in? RULE: It must be to support the argument of whatever Chick is saying not to mock him, disprove him, etc.

I got my first Chick tract, around the eighth grade, which would place me right about your age at the time (unless you’re lying to us about that Mr. LeMay?.. and then you will likely feel the flames of HELL! Jesus hates liars.). The son of some pastor of a crazy offshoot of protestantism “Church of Jesus”, gave it to me. Wish I knew which tract it was… but it featured a very cartoonish and typical red devil on it somewhere and showed the hell that awaits the non-believer. It did nothing for me except make me mad at the supposed Christians who gave it to me. Even at that age I recognized that it was the work of some very disturbed hypocrites trying to scare children into some failed and wrong headed dogma. God existed inside me then… that tract robbed me of him and supplanted it with the worldly devil.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/51 "2009-12-16T00:08:34Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I’m not sure it would be protected if they use the actual art. It always seems like the art itself also has to be parodied for that defense to work.

One of the major factors that is weighed in copyright cases is how much of the original work was copied. Copying a single panel from a Chick tract and adding parody text might fall under fair use, but directly copying the art from an entire tract would almost certainly be considered a copyright violation.

Of course, even if only the art from one panel were copied it would be possible for Chick to sue. I don’t think he’d win if it went to court, but the parodist might not want to have to go to court over it.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [December 16, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/52 "2009-12-16T00:20:11Z")

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I might use one if someone ELSE gave me a Chick tract. Then I’d be like, “Dude, I already have one, so it’s okay. I don’t need another one.” And he’d be like, “Oh, okay then,” and he’d go away.

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**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\
**Post date:** [December 17, 2009, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-situation-you-might-use-chick-tracts/520549/53 "2009-12-17T01:47:38Z")

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The Jack Chick documentary has apparently been deleted as it was illegally posted in violation of copyright laws.

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