# Any "Superman" fans in the house?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 24, 2002, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524 "2002-09-24T21:44:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/1 "2002-09-24T21:44:32Z")

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Because you’ll want to see what Warner Brothers is planning for their new film.

I’m not going to comment, because, well, you should just read it for yourself. And besides, [words fail me](http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=13350).

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [September 24, 2002, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/2 "2002-09-24T23:36:07Z")

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I got as far as Lex Luthor’s introduction before I stopped reading. BLECH!

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**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/3 "2002-09-25T00:04:40Z")

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NOOOO! NNNNNOOOO!!! ☹☹☹☹☹☹

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**Author:** ![kitarak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kitarak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kitarak)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/4 "2002-09-25T00:11:40Z")

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Oh… my… god. I just can’t stop laughing. That script is so bad that it’s hilarious.

I’m not even particularily fond of Superman and I hate the script.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/5 "2002-09-25T00:16:06Z")

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i saw that. still puking. The second pod…brain melting…

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**Author:** ![ResIpsaLoquitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b3f665/32.png) [@ResIpsaLoquitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ResIpsaLoquitor)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/6 "2002-09-25T00:32:20Z")

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I don’t buy it. Early scripts like this tend to be subject to heavy rewrites, particularly when fan criticism goes berserk.

Either that, or the author came across a dud. (Ever see any of the supposed _Episode II_ scripts floating around before May? They’re laughable since they’re so far removed from the actual film.)

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/7 "2002-09-25T00:34:22Z")

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Ultrafilter, go back. It gets worse. Much, much, much worse. Worse beyond the wildest dreams of fanboys panicking over how the “suits” were going to screw up “their” movie. You’ve only hit the tip of the Lex Luthor iceberg.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/8 "2002-09-25T00:43:32Z")

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**ResIpsa:** Sadly, this isn’t just an early draft, and it isn’t a forgery. It’s an actual professional screenplay sent to the website (which specializes in studio monitoring) by an insider. And what’s more, it’s a screenplay that caused the studio to abandon their pending _Superman v. Batman_ project, or at least shelve it temporarily. They’ve already signed Brett Ratner (_Rush Hour_ 1 & 2, and the upcoming Hannibal Lecter prequel _Red Dragon_) to direct this new project. Early drafts don’t get big-ticket directors to sign contracts. “Attached,” maybe. Signed, no.

There’s a _remote_ possibility that this is an “official fake script” used by the studio to smoke out employees who don’t honor their confidentiality agreements, but it becomes less and less likely with each passing hour. Normally, if it were fake, the truth would have come out by now. It’s been a couple of days, and no such information has surfaced.

No, this is, with 99% probability, totally legit.

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**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/9 "2002-09-25T00:49:37Z")

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[More details here](http://corona.bc.ca/films/details/superman5.html), including some very illuminating information about the power struggle currently being waged in the halls of the studio.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/10 "2002-09-25T19:11:08Z")

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Ugh! This one sucks. We’ve got to prevent this movie from being made!

sigh…I was afraid I’d have to do this.

SHAZAM!

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Damn. Didn’t work.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/11 "2002-09-25T19:14:08Z")

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Hmmm…how about a massive fanboy boycott and protests, and any normal who wants to see the film has to walk past 30 Comic Book Guys with signs and eggs!! that’ll show AOL!!

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**Author:** ![kingpengvin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kingpengvin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kingpengvin)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/12 "2002-09-25T19:49:36Z")

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CRAP CRAP CRAP!

I don’t mind little tweaks or interesting additions but The ending makes no fricken sense! “It was mine!” (?!?!?!?!)

I’ve been trying to figure the best way to submit a Batman script and now I know It would have to be total crap to get through to WB

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**Author:** ![Menocchio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de053/32.png) [@Menocchio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Menocchio)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/13 "2002-09-25T21:25:17Z")

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My God, it’s full of crap.

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**Author:** ![Doubting\_Robert](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@Doubting\_Robert](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doubting_Robert)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2002, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/14 "2002-09-25T21:37:19Z")

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“Jor-El argues him out of being dead.”

As opposed to the way it went in the comics, in which Pa Kent has a heart attack and while his heart is stopped, he argues Superman out of being dead. (Adventures of Superman # 500, I think.)

But Krypton not destroyed? Well, I haven’t read any of the Return to Krypton story arc yet, but that doesn’t sound right to me.

And that final revelation regarding Lex? No, no, no. What they have done to him on Smallville is bad enough.

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**Author:** ![SPOOFE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c5a1d2/32.png) [@SPOOFE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SPOOFE)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/15 "2002-09-26T08:29:41Z")

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Didja notice how Superman dies?

He drowns.

He jumps in a pool of water to save Lois, and drowns.

Nevermind that there’s kryptonite in there. Superman drowns. That is the dadgummed dumbest idea this side of giving Batman’s costume nipples. Superman can go into space. He doesn’t need to breath. But he DROWNS.

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**Author:** ![Silentgoldfish](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@Silentgoldfish](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silentgoldfish)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 9:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/16 "2002-09-26T09:43:05Z")

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If you ever read Kevin Smith’s comments on what happened to the other Superman movie you’ll see why this sounds legit. The producer on that didn’t want Supe to fly or wear a cape among other things.

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**Author:** ![photopat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e95f7d/32.png) [@photopat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/photopat)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/17 "2002-09-26T17:01:51Z")

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I don’t mind trying some new ideas with the character, but these people are trying to completely turn the myth on it’s head. No way! If this movie is made I won’t see it. I have my doubts that it’ll be made though.

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**Author:** ![Teelo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@Teelo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teelo)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/18 "2002-09-26T17:17:50Z")

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I like smallville.  
Its cool.  
huh huh huh…  
Heh, just kidding, its a great show. Sometimes there is overacting, but meh.

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/19 "2002-09-26T19:40:50Z")

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Forget the fanboys. This isn’t going to appeal to **anyone**. It’s just plain stupid. Forget the myth and look at the story – just plain lame-and-a-half.

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2002, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-superman-fans-in-the-house/129524/20 "2002-09-26T20:06:08Z")

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Okay, this is what we do: we get about 50 people, all dress up as Superman, and throw thousands of copies of the script into Boston Harbor!!!

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