# Any teams suck as bad as U of I?
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155
**Category:** The Game Room
**Created:** [March 20, 2009, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155 "2009-03-20T13:38:26Z")
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### Author:  [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2009, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/21 "2009-03-21T18:42:23Z")
> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Ohio State lost to Sienna. How do they feel?
Burnt.
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### Author:  [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)
#### Post date: [March 21, 2009, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/22 "2009-03-21T19:39:06Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#):
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> Burnt.
😃
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### Author:  [@Oslo\_Ostragoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oslo_Ostragoth)
#### Post date: [March 22, 2009, 6:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/23 "2009-03-22T06:35:53Z")
Have your second arrange a meeting at dawn. You get to choose weapons.
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### Author:  [@Ponch8](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponch8)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/24 "2009-03-23T02:14:58Z")
It does seem like the U of I pisses away a lot of money on their athletics department. When I was a vet student there earlier this decade, they had some bullshit “athletics fee” (I think it was around 35 or 40 dollars) that we had to pay each semester with our tuition bill. The student tickets to games were also pretty expensive. When I attended the University of Florida as an undergrad, there was no such fee, and students got in free into any sport except football, where a student ticket was only $6 or 8. On top of that, the Gators actually win championships.
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### Author:  [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2009, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/25 "2009-03-23T13:11:43Z")
Probably too late, as this thread has run out of what little steam it ever had - but one hard-to-quantify aspect I was incorporating into my initial assessment was that UofI seems to frequently make it to the tournaments and bowl games, only to find a way to lose when it really counts. In that respect, I distinguish them in my mind from teams who never even make it to the post-season. The difference between getting your hopes up and then dashed, as opposed to never really having any hopes at all.
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### Author:  [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2009, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/26 "2009-03-23T16:45:17Z")
> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Probably too late, as this thread has run out of what little steam it ever had - but one hard-to-quantify aspect I was incorporating into my initial assessment was that UofI seems to frequently make it to the tournaments and bowl games, only to find a way to lose when it really counts. In that respect, I distinguish them in my mind from teams who never even make it to the post-season. The difference between getting your hopes up and then dashed, as opposed to never really having any hopes at all.
In that case, the Missouri Tigers are about as bad as U of I
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### Author:  [@joew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joew)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/27 "2009-03-23T16:57:00Z")
And it is not like Western Kentucky is some horrible podunk basketball team. They have a proud. long and tradition-rich program.
> **[Western Kentucky Hilltoppers basketball](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Kentucky_Hilltoppers_basketball)**
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> The Western Kentucky Hilltoppers men's basketball team is the men's basketball team that represents Western Kentucky University (WKU) in Bowling Green, Kentucky. The Hilltoppers currently compete in Conference USA. The team's most recent appearance in the NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament was in 2013. Steve Lutz was announced as the team's current head coach on March 18, 2023.
> The men's basketball program has the 16th most victories in the history of the NCAA and has attained the eig...
also
> **[List of teams with the most victories in NCAA Division I men's college basketball](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_teams_with_the_most_victories_in_NCAA_Division_I_men's_college_basketball)**
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> This is a list of top NCAA Division I Men's basketball teams ranked by the number of wins through the end of the last completed season, 2022–23.
> Season
Illinois is 13th on that list…look who is right behind them. Should Illinois be better, probably but getting beat by Western is not the end of the world
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### Author:  [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)
#### Post date: [March 23, 2009, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-teams-suck-as-bad-as-u-of-i/490155/28 "2009-03-23T19:23:51Z")
> [@gonzomax](#):
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> Ohio State lost to Sienna. How do they feel?
I think they feel about like Wake Forest right now. Cleveland St.? How do you lose to Cleveland St.? When did Cleveland become a state?
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