Any tips for first time trip to Ireland?

A. Gwilliam- if you’ll be drinking in Northern Ireland, just be a wee bit careful. Most pubs are perfectly fine, but some do have a paramilitary connection.

If you’re in Belfast and want somewhere safe to drink I can recommend:

The Errigle on the Ormeau Road- my local, nice atmosphere, no aggro but not in the city centre.

The Duke of York, The Spaniard ,Whites Tavern and The Cloth Ear in the Cathedral Quarter.

They’re all a bit pricey, but DoY and Whites are quite trad in atmosphere. The Cloth Ear is the bar of the super trendy Merchant Hotel and the Spaniard thinks it is in Madrid and serves Tapas and a selection of fine Rums, but are nice if you don’t mind mixing with local yuppies.

The Crown is the quintessential Irish pub, and is a big tourist spot right across the road from the Grand Opera House. Robinsons, right next door is also decent enough.

Further up the north coast, if you’re at the Giant’s Causeway, pop into the Bushmills Distillery. The Bush in Bushmills is a traditional spot for a wee drink.

The Harbour Bar in Portrush has a small traditional lounge with an open fire downstairs, there is a bistro, restaurant and wine bar upstairs and a night club on the top floor at the weekends.

In Dublin, you may be told you need to go out in the Temple Bar. I don’t really think you do, especially if you’re old enough to have been married 25 years. I’m younger than that by a bit and was too old last time (though maybe the crowds of drunk Brits over on stag parties have thinned since the bust?).

Too old ? Yes I have gotten “the welcome to the club” letter from AARP, (I told the guys at work I got a letter for my Dad by mistake:D).
I have fooled people though, with my pony tail and earring, to think I am not in the half century club. Such as the skateboarder I ran across last summer who was supprised when I asked to borrow his ride, and then did 180s.
“Whoa, old school”
Yes, punk I was surfing concrete with Red Rider wheels and Lazer trucks before you were born.:stuck_out_tongue:

I’d add the John Hewitt to the list.

Temple Bar’s a dirty, overpriced kip but it does have a certain buzz to it on a nice summer’s evening. Closest to it I’ll go for a drink though is the Porterhouse or the IFI.

I have always found the Czech Inn pleasent and well-priced.

Oh yeah that too. Although Is Parliament St. and environs really considered Temple Bar? I suppose it’s the western edge of it.

That would be the restaurant we had lunch at off the upper Falls Road, then! :eek:

Got back from my trip on Sunday. Circumstances prevented us from having as good a time as we might have had, but such is life. Anyway, some thoughts for prospective visitors:

I’d highly recommend the Republican walking tour of Belfast’s Falls Road area. It costs £8 for around three hours. The guides are ex-members of the local IRA. You get an interesting insight into things; obviously an insight from one particular viewpoint, but they’re entirely up front about that being the case. You learn something about the area both as it was in the past, and as it is today. You also get a bit of an understanding of the Provos: what made them tick as individuals, and what life was like for them as a “Volunteer”.

So far as I can make out, the Loyalist walking tours of the Shankill Road are no longer running. (This seems oddly typical of Loyalism!) But next time I’m in Belfast I’ll probably go for a wander about there under my own steam.

And for anyone with lingering doubts, my sense of Belfast is that it’s a very safe city for the visitor.

Other recommendations:

If you find yourself in Donegal Town, check out the “Reel Inn”. I was a bit wary because of the name, but it’s a good little pub for some live music and/or conversation.

To partially answer my own question earlier in the thread: bitter drinkers should give Smithwick’s a try if they want an easy drink for a few pints. However, be warned that if you’re someone for whom drinking bitter is an ideological issue, rather than just being a matter of personal taste, I think you’ll be dissatisfied!

And finally, I’d also recommend Newgrange (which has already been mentioned in this thread, I think). In fact, I’d strongly recommend visiting Knowth (rhymes with “mouth”) first, and then visiting Newgrange. Unfortunately for anyone relying on public transport, Bus Éireann in their wisdom are now only running one morning bus to the visitors’ centre, and one afternoon bus back to Drogheda, which just about gives you time to visit Knowth and Newgrange, and no time to poke around the visitors’ centre itself. D’oh! :smack:

I really enjoyed my time in Ireland, and would absolutely go back again. One final word of advice for the visitor, though: bring money! :eek:

We’re back!
Wonderful place, Ireland, it is a shame that they used all the sheetmetal to make beer cans, and had none left for street signs (I kid,I kid). But really, finding our way around Dublin was an adventure. It didn’t help that the Queen was there and the Garda was out in full force.

What’s with a road having three names as you travel along it for a few miles?

Great weather, only one day of pouring rain, other days a few sprinkles and then the sun would shine.

I wonder in what American city a taxi driver would spot a tourist taking a picture, and then stop his car short so not to block the view, which happened to me in Ireland.

The food was great. I am inspired to try to make a seafood chowder again, now that I know how good it can be when done correctly.

I liked the age of the places we saw. Americans seem to think a two or three hundred year old house is a big deal. No comparision to something that is actually old.

I wish I had a place like the English Market to shop. Food heaven.

We made it down the country roads without sideswiping anything. We did leave a little aluminum from the front car rim on a curb in Cork.

We were discussing the narrow roads and the karma of driving.
In America, sometimes it seems it is me, me, me, road rage, get out of my way.
In Ireland you pull over to let people pass through a too narrow road, you back up when the bridge will only let one car pass, you wave people ahead of you when they need to pull out.
I liked it.

Every street in Dublin has several signs like this. I suppose the streets changing names every couple of blocks can be confusing though. :slight_smile:

OK, I blame jet lag and fifty year old eyes then.:smiley:

Seafood chowder- that is enough to go back to Ireland for. Clonakilty had some superb chowder as did Baltimore. Best of all was a small place in Bantry called the Fish Kitchen. Mmmmm.

Despite An Gadaí’s assurance, I also noticed the poor signage in Ireland, although I admittedly don’t recall it being a problem in Dublin city centre. I think Belfast was the worst offender; they must’ve gotten carried away when removing road signs during the war, and never gotten round to putting them back!

Welcome to Europe! :stuck_out_tongue:

Perspective is an interesting thing. I was struck by how few old buildings there were around. Georgian doesn’t count as “old”! :slight_smile:

Belfast reminded me of Victorian industrial cities in the North of England. Dublin of course was very Georgian; there was no sense of it having been a mediaeval city.

Another thing that struck me about Irish towns and cities, even in places like Dublin’s Grafton Street, or Belfast’s Royal Avenue, is that (for the most part) shopping streets aren’t characterless clones; each building tends to be different, and still have character, even if the shop is one of the major British chains.

I was also struck by how very much more courteous Irish drivers are. Apparently even in Dublin the disease hasn’t yet fully taken hold whereby drivers don’t consider other drivers, let alone pedestrians, to be actual human beings.

Whichever way you slice it, from the big to the small, Ireland is a fantastic place! :slight_smile:

Glad that trips enjoyed by all!

Re: Belfast signage- you have to remember that we didn’t have tourists here for 35 years- you don’t need signs if you already know where you’re going! Yes- the signage is absymal.

You may have noticed a distinct lack of picturesque thatched cottages when compared to rural England.

The Irish are remarkably unsentimental when it comes to central heating, indoor plumbing and a waterproof roof that doesn’t need to be replaced every 20 years, and will choose a large Spanish-style Bungalow over a draughty cottage every time.

I’m just back too and I have to agree with A. Gwilliam’s comment about the signage. It was pretty easy to find my way in downtown Dublin (City Center, or An Lar) but I found a lot of places where I couldn’t find a sign, at driving speed, for the life of me. This culminated in a rather more stressful trip to the airport than I expected as the Gardai (police) had the one road I knew blocked off.

However, I stopped for directions twice and people were very helpful and got me where I needed to be.

As an American, I too, was fascinated by the age of the buildings. This is my second trip. St. Patrick’s was OLD before America was even discovered.

Even though it was a business trip I had a good time and found the people as wonderful as last time.

And I too, have just returned. We had a fantastic time, and I think the Irish themselves, more than the sites, get the credit. Everyone we talked to was friendly and inviting, and we could not have had a better time. Really, everyone was fantastic. You’d almost have thought the whole country was trained to make sure we had a good time. (I was surprised by the number of Poles we met. They were all Irish friendly, also, but I was surprised to stop somewhere out of the way, for example, at a cafe in the middle of the Wicklow Mts, and be served by a nice, Polish girl.) For those of you who like to compare these things, I agree that the Irish drivers are very patient, similar to small town America. (The CO mountains also have pull offs, and such, and most people use them. The only problem is the occasional RV driver, who seems convinced that 50 cars piling up behind them is no big deal, and won’t pull over. We blame Texas.)

I was surprised how quickly I got used to driving. It helped that Obama’s visit convinced us to visit Glendalough on our second day, so I got to drive where I am most comfortable: small, relatively untraveled, mountain roads. Third gear was my problem gear. You always think about first gear, and second gear is easy on the way up, but third gear is the first one you hit going the “wrong way”. Fourth is easy from third, and the rest required some kind of highway. The roads are narrow - when they label a road as narrow they mean “you will be driving on something narrower than a lengthy, rural American driveway and it’s two way” - so meeting buses and trucks racing down the road has an impact on your blood pressure.

The suggestion to tank up at breakfast was excellent. I eat more than just about everybody, but even I found that a full Irish breakfast, topped off with what my wife and girls didn’t eat (I liked the bacon more than they did) and lots of toast. We get some bread or scones in the late afternoon, and were good until dinner. We enjoyed the food, bakeries and beer. We stayed clear of Cajun, kebab, and Mexican restaurants. We can find those here after all, but only have one Irish pub in town. We can get great beer here in CO, but that just helped appreciate what was on tap there.

For other tourists, we visited/did:
A two day bus tour of Dublin. Very useful for getting the lay of the land and reducing the amount of walking to get from site to site
Guinness (We spent a lot of time there. Partly because I drank my wife’s and one daughter’s pints and sample glasses, as well as my own. Hey, I really like stouts.)
Glendalough (We went there while Obama was in Dublin, and my one daughter had her last final exam. Ironically, she got waved to by Obama on her return from her final; an experience she probably won’t get here.) The drive alone is worth the price of admission, but get an OPW pass, if you are a history freak like the lot of us.
Back to Dublin now that our pass was still good. Because my daughter was a student, the Book of Kells was free. I did not expect to find it as interesting as I did. I was stunned. I think I went through the exhibit at half the speed of anyone not related to me. But even so, the Long Room for the library was just more moving. Honestly, I was so moved walking up the stairs, smelling the old books and then entering that library, that I almost teared up. I don’t know if it is because my mom was a librarian or what, but it was very emotional.
We also visited St. Patrick’s and Christ Church that day. I tour too slowly to get anything else that day. The crypt under Christ Church was really cool.
Then we headed north to Carrick Fergus, Giant’s Causeway and Derry in Northern Ireland. (Geologists and rock freaks will most appreciate Giant’s Causeway. Carrick Fergus seems most aimed at kids, even so, we really enjoyed it. Derry has the wall, but is not as much of a tourist site as the other places, unless you are a history freak like us.) Very scenic driving, also.
From Derry, we head over to Galway. (The Spanish Arch was a surprisingly affordable overnight spot for us.) From my perspective, it was a tourist shopping spot coupled with a good pub scene at night. My wife met a woman with a knitting shop there, and spent some time talking to her, while I picked up some books and CDs on learning Irish (the language).
From Galway, we drove to the Cliffs of Moher and spent the night in Doolin. The drive was awesome, and so are the Cliffs. I’m not sure the Cliffs are more deserving than the Napali Coast (Kauai) of being in the running for one of the 7 Wonders of the World. No knock there, though. Just an example of why such lists are silly. Doolin has a good traditional Irish music scene, and this old man even managed to stay up for it. Good food and stouts, too. :slight_smile:
From there we headed to the Castle Trim, which is a very impressive castle. We had trouble finding a place to stay because the Kings of Leon were in town. So a Queen, some Kings, and a President created more problems than anything else.
From Trim it was off to the Boyne Valley area. We only had time for Newgrange, the Battle of Boyne site, and a cemetery with some crosses whose names I’d butcher, but were cool to see. (They were covered in our Trinity going girl’s class on the Vikings, so we had to visit them.)

Basically, we enjoyed every place we visited, and couldn’t have had a better time. Strong interests in history, geology, and linguistics within the family were part of that, but so were the Irish themselves. I think I could adopt or marry the whole lot.

Now, I’m trying to learn Irish and get it to where my German is: present, but not quite good enough to be useful for communication.

Oops, I left off the Aran Islands and our ferry ride. We caught a ferry from Doolin, went to Inish More, and went along the cliffs to a bird nesting site. In good weather, it is really pleasant, but I must warn you that you might get seasick, especially if you sit below. Once one person heaves, it seems like everybody does. There was a group celebrating a birthday and drinking very heavily, and smoking. They also rode back from Inish More, and then rode out to the Cliffs. That didn’t help. My wife did get sick, near the Cliffs, but otherwise we all had a fun day.

This is kinda funny: What NOT to do in Dublin - CNN.com

Oh GOD!
Slapper Faced Cracks!

It actually recommends it to single tourists…single tourists who want to catch a hitherto undiscovered STD presumably… actually, no, that would probably mean a visit to the gay sauna by the Liffey with the sign with the sailor… oh yes, the Dock.

CFJs has the dubious honour of being the nightclub in Ireland that goes through the most condoms in their vending machines.

Meatmarket is putting it nicely.

Ah whenever I went there it wasn’t nearly as bad as it had been made out to be. It had a kinda country disco vibe to it.