# Any World War I Flight Sims on the way? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 21, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847 "2009-02-21T14:05:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/1 "2009-02-21T14:05:49Z")
I’ve been in the mood for a flight sim lately, and frankly I’ve bombed Berlin and shot down Luftwaffe fighters over Normandy so often that I can almost navigate from London to Berlin in my sleep and if I ever fall through a wormhole in the Time-Space Continuum I could probably end up as the highest scoring Flying Ace of all time. Anyway, years ago I used to have _Red Baron_ on my computer, and it was one of my favourite flight sims; simple, addictive, surprisingly realistic flight models, and it covered one of my favourite historical periods: World War I. I found a copy a year or so ago and managed to get it running on my PC, but it was just too polygonal to enjoy anymore; I half expected to find Ignignokt and Err flying past in a blocky German biplane whilst giving me the finger as hard as they could before attempting to shoot my plane down with the Quad Laser. 😛 Apparently _Red Baron II_ was pretty good (especially after being updated to _Red Baron 3D_) but I haven’t seen any copies available around here for quite some time, and the only other World War I flight sims that I recall as being any good were _Knights Of The Sky_ (Kicking it Old, Old School way back in 1990!) and _Wings Of Glory_, which was _Wing Commander_ set during World War I and was quite a fun game, IIRC. Anyway, I was thinking, what with the 100th anniversary of World War I’s kick-off approaching, if there were any World War I flight sims in the works? I’m not talking about two Russian guys in a basement in Vladivostok working on a mod for _IL-2 Sturmovik_; but rather an actual, properly developed and released, _realistic_ World War I flight sim, preferably with a coherent campaign and not just a bunch of random missions strung together. (I mean, that would be fine, but at least make it _feel_ like part of a cohesive campaign, as _European Air War_ managed so well.) Anyone heard anything or got any suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/2 "2009-02-21T17:38:34Z")
I would love it if someone was involved in creating said sim, but it’s probably yet another dead PC game genre by now. IIRC the online sims _Aces High!_ & _Warbirds_ both have WWI arenas, FWIW. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/3 "2009-02-21T17:45:58Z")
You might like [Wings of War](http://xbox.ign.com/objects/693/693334.html), although it is to “realistic flight physics” what _Rocky IV_ is to “realistic hand-to-hand combat”. Very arcadey, but also a lot of fun. ---
**Author:** ![mambocrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc348/32.png) [@mambocrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mambocrow)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/4 "2009-02-21T18:09:39Z")
Here’s a link to one that’s scheduled for release in April 2009 (Rise of Flight): > **[wwiaircombat.com](http://ww38.wwiaircombat.com/games/rise-of-flight)** > > This domain may be for sale! Screenies and videos look good. ---
**Author:** ![Martini\_Enfield](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/martini_enfield/32/11123_2.png) [@Martini\_Enfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martini_Enfield)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/5 "2009-02-22T01:14:44Z")
> [@mambocrow](#): > > Here’s a link to one that’s scheduled for release in April 2009 (Rise of Flight): > [wwiaircombat.com](http://wwiaircombat.com/games/rise-of-flight) > Screenies and videos look good. They do, but it’s been in development for a while and the release date outside Russia is “TBA”. Also, it’s set in 1917-1918, thus missing out on the entire early years of flight in WWI, which included a lot of interesting stuff such as the Fokker Scourge. Still, the demo videos look good and I’m hopeful it will get a release in this part of the world! ---
**Author:** ![Tixenfleaz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9a140/32.png) [@Tixenfleaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tixenfleaz)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/6 "2009-02-22T07:00:15Z")
Man, I miss playing RB2. The dynamic campaign really ruined me for most other sims, flight or otherwise. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [February 22, 2009, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/7 "2009-02-22T19:44:06Z")
I spent many, many hour playing Red Baron back in 1994, as well as Red Baron 3D back in 1999. What I liked most was the immersion they provided; both got me into reading all I could on WWI. Anyway, I’m keeping my eye on this thread in hopes of an answer. ---
**Author:** ![Battle\_Pope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@Battle\_Pope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Battle_Pope)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2009, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-world-war-i-flight-sims-on-the-way/486847/8 "2009-03-06T06:12:23Z")
[First Eagles](http://www.thirdwire.com/project_wwi_combo.htm)? It will run under Vista (despite what that page says), it needs to be installed to a directory other than the default. As released its not as hard-core as some but there are a ton of add-ons available at [CombatAce](http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?autocom=downloads&showcat=70). The [forum](http://forum.combatace.com/index.php?showforum=101) is a good place to start. _Shameless plug_ I’ve [built](http://asimpson.site.net.au/) a few things for it 🙂 - that page needs an update - all the Fokker Eindekkers are done. 🙂