# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2142 "2015-05-28T16:40:09Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Alexa is trying a bit too hard to be heel. She needs to attack more random divas (or just Carmella maybe) to get some genuine heat on her vs. just cheap heat
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> Last random thought: Why is Alex Reilly not doing commentary? I know he’s hurt, but he broke his body not his voice, why can’t he just sit there in his sling or whatever and do commentary still?

I was actually impressed with a half-way decent promo out of Alexa. I honestly cannot remember a single one of her promos before this.

And Alex can’t go back on commentary for story line reasons. He quit being a commentator to wrestle again.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I don’t know who’s coaching him on the mike, but he’s nailing it.

Dusty Rhodes, of course.

You’ll know during the PPV when he says “If you weeeeeeel…”

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2143 "2015-05-28T16:47:12Z")

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You’ll know during the PPV when he says “If you weeeeel”. 😛

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2144 "2015-05-28T17:04:02Z")

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I have to say I do enjoy the Brennan/Saxton/Graves commentary team a lot more than the main roster team, if only because Corey Graves is a lot more _intelligent_ about how he plays a heel commentator than JBL is.

Honestly, I’m surprised that JBL didn’t overload and melt like an evil Star Trek TOS computer when he found himself having to defend an evil Russian who was United States Champion.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2145 "2015-05-28T17:07:25Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> Honestly, I’m surprised that JBL didn’t overload and melt like an evil Star Trek TOS computer when he found himself having to defend an evil Russian who was United States Champion.

I remember Bobby the Brain Heenan going through a similar dilemma on commentary when Hulk Hogan turned heel in WCW. He had made a career of being Hogan’s mortal enemy, and largely kept mum whenever Hogan was on.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2146 "2015-05-28T17:56:06Z")

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It’s been announced this morning that Paul Heyman’s client, **BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWK LEZZZZZZZZZZZZNURRRRRR** , will be making his return for the June 22nd episode of Raw and is scheduled for Battleground in July as well as several other Raws in between.

I’d say it’s pretty much a given that we’ll be seeing Brock in the main event of Summerslam for his world title rematch. The big question is whether or not they want to keep the babyface heat he picked up at 'Mania - I hope he does, because nothing would please me more than to see him win _completely and utterly beat the everloving shit out of Seth Rollins and each and every single other member of his goon squad_ and win back the world title in the process.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2147 "2015-05-28T18:33:04Z")

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I hope to god they give the MitB briefcase to Ambrose this year.

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2148 "2015-05-28T20:15:20Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> I don’t think the old NWA really exists in any meaningful sense. (You may be able to trace the NWA title up through TNA, but… well… LoL. tNa.)

The NWA still exists, but a few years ago the people who owned the rights to the name switched from a territorial system to a licensing system. None of its current member promotions are currently running major TV shows so far as I’m aware, and the NWA world title is currently being defended in New Japan - after the NWA/TNA split, it was defended in Ring of Honor, then in NWA Hollywood (now Championship Wrestling From Hollywood after they split with NWA during the switch mentioned above). Blue Demon Jr. of LU/AAA fame was NWA champion for a record 505 days during ROH’s control of the title.

There’s a new organization called the United Wrestling Network that CWfH spearheaded the creation of as a spiritual successor to the old NWA, that several of the modern territories are members of, though I don’t believe they’ve established any titles yet.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2149 "2015-05-28T20:48:50Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I hope to god they give the MitB briefcase to Ambrose this year.

I’ve been calling that for about 3 months now, it’s gonna happen

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2150 "2015-05-28T21:51:25Z")

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While I hate to out myself as less of a smark than the other fine denizens of this thread, I have to ask.

WTF does “Based Haitch” mean???

I mean, I know what “Haitch” means, but “Based?”

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**Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2151 "2015-05-28T23:08:04Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I have to say I do enjoy the Brennan/Saxton/Graves commentary team a lot more than the main roster team, if only because Corey Graves is a lot more _intelligent_ about how he plays a heel commentator than JBL is.

He’s doing a lot better and I prefer him over Saxton. One of the stupid things he did for a while was making up shit about the match that I’m sure people backstage didn’t appreciate. Such as in one of the Hideo Itami matches saying Itami had to prove himself or go home. If he didn’t win the match, that was it for him, he had to go home. Obvious bullshit. Vince would have had his head. Then he started to repeat this same line in someone else’s match a couple of weeks later and caught himself.

JBL is just “I’ve made my fortune and I really don’t give a fuck anymore”

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2152 "2015-05-29T01:42:26Z")

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> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#):
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> While I hate to out myself as less of a smark than the other fine denizens of this thread, I have to ask.
> 
> WTF does “Based Haitch” mean???

Near as I can tell, it’s a nickname for HHH, but I have no idea how it came to be.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2153 "2015-05-29T01:45:07Z")

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Hmmmm… Kane said he had a plan, and they made a point of having Ambrose come out while KO was heading back, so is KO going to be the Authority’s secret weapon? They’re calling him up! Shortest NXT tenure ever!

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2154 "2015-05-29T01:47:38Z")

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What would have been perfect a while ago… when Jamie Noble was yapping about his inbred relatives, Seth should have said “OK, stop talking” before pushing him back.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2155 "2015-05-29T01:59:59Z")

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Aw poop… it’s Noohoo Dayhee instead. Yes, I don’t read spoilers.

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**Author:** ![LawMonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@LawMonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LawMonkey)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2156 "2015-05-29T02:00:04Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Last random thought: Why is Alex Reilly not doing commentary? I know he’s hurt, but he broke his body not his voice, why can’t he just sit there in his sling or whatever and do commentary still?

Why on earth are you questioning this? He’s not in the ring, he’s not on the mic; the Gods have smiled on us, but they will become angry if you do not appreciate their gift. That is the shoot answer to your question. The kayfabe answer is that he gave up being an announcer for the chance to be murdered by Kevin Owens. The deal wasn’t, “Ok, Alex, you can fight Owens but you have to take a break from announcing while you do it,” it was, “You have to make a decision, Alex; you are a fighter or you are an announcer. You can’t do both.” Alex chose… foolishly. And nearly turned Kevin Owens face by doing so, and granted us all a gift of the Gods.

Incidentally, you should pay more attention to the jobbers. A) it’s pretty disrespectful not to, and B) in NXT at least, today’s jobbers are tomorrow’s stars. See, e.g., Wesley Blake and Buddy Murphy.

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Sexy comments without making any points on her rivalry with Pentagon Jr and the fallout of her mask vs mask match with Super Fly. If she ever learns English, she wins ladies wrestling, ALL promotions. She’s so used to working with men, it’d be easy.

Sexy is the babiest of faces, and I love it. That comment about inspiring any girls/women… Fantastic stuff. I want her to team up with Bayley. Though… a Bayley that wins stuff, and isn’t Sting levels of dumb.

> [@](#):
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> Some day, LU’s going to have to do some kind of retrospective on why Vampiro hates Konnan so much. … Puma does the 630 Splash 3 or 4 times, and finally connects at the end to score the victory.

Agreed. There’s a brief paragraph or so about the feud on Vampiro’s wikipedia page, but it doesn’t really offer much detail or color beyond “These guys had a feud, and they’re actually good buddies now.” This surfaced biefly on the LLWC, when Konnan had to book on the fly to cover up a ref botch and came down to tell Vampiro what was going on; Matt Striker got a quick line in about the unlikelihood of Vampiro and Konnan getting along for an evening.

And I think it was only 2 splashes. I may be mistaken, but I _think_ that may be the first time someone has kicked out of the 630 splash. LU doesn’t go for the “spamming finishers” approach that certain other promotions have been criticized for; to the extent guys have a recognized finisher, they mostly keep it protected.

> [@](#):
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> Cueto’s office is demolished every week!

Possible nitpick: I’m not 100% sure that was Cueto’s office. IIRC, Cueto’s door has a glass window in it (that somehow hasn’t been broken yet) with the stencilled “Dario Cueto – Proprietor”. The door that Senior Official Marty Elias was pounding on (and that the DoD later blew down like three Big Bad Wolves) didn’t have that. Also, when they busted through, it looked like a hallway, not the familiar (and quickly becoming iconic) Cueto office set.

> [@Smapti](#):
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> The NWA still exists…

Oh yeah, I’d forgotten about that–i’m pretty sure that the two AXS NJPW World shows I watched before deciding that lots of non-wrestling elements of NJPW made it not for me mentioned that they had the NWA title over there now, or else I just picked it up by IWC osmosis. I’m not sure that an old-fashioned territorial system makes a lot of sense today–ISTR reading somewhere that it originally had something to do w/ mafia links. But more importantly, it just doesn’t reflect the modern world. The loose network of indies that share talent and cooperate to put on megashows grew up in this post-territory world, and has naturally evolved for it.

Besides that, as a blog post I saw earlier pointed out, we’ve got our own informal territory network growing up on an international level, with Mexico, Japan, and the US all playing host to top-level independent promotions. (There’s some good stuff going on in the UK as well; I wouldn’t be surprised to see them moving into this top rank as well soon.) For me, this system, and the copromotions we’re seeing with NJPW/RoH, AAA/RoH, AAA/TNA/RoH/NOAH/AJPW/LU, etc., is the way forward for wrestling outside of WWE. And maybe, just maybe, with NXT signing Samoa Joe on a non-exclusive deal, we might see WWE starting to dip its toe into this pool a little bit. More wrestling is what’s REALLY best for business, and you don’t get that by refusing to admit other promotions exist (or ruthlessly gobbling them out of existence).

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2157 "2015-05-29T02:44:07Z")

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I wouldn’t put it past them, but unless they’re kayfabing the shit out of Rusev’s injury he seems to have legitimately injured himself during Smackdown.

The injury happened over commercial break (a bit TOO coincidentally) and no replay was shown, but a picture of him was released of him in a wheelchair whilst in the airport. I would hate for him to miss Elimination chamber because of it, but if it’s a sprain and he stays off of it til Sunday he should be pretty good no?

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Near as I can tell, it’s a nickname for HHH, but I have no idea how it came to be.

It is indeed a nickname for HHH.

But I have no clue WHY, and it’s KILLING me.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2159 "2015-05-29T03:43:04Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> I wouldn’t put it past them, but unless they’re kayfabing the shit out of Rusev’s injury he seems to have legitimately injured himself during Smackdown.
> 
> The injury happened over commercial break (a bit TOO coincidentally) and no replay was shown…

Hey, it’s SmackDown. They can edit it however they want.

Apparently they’re talking about putting Bray into his place, because god knows the one thing Bray needs is another pointless loss.

In other news, Sasha Banks either is injured (per the dirt sheets) or not (per her own instagram).

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2160 "2015-05-29T12:27:44Z")

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> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#):
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> It is indeed a nickname for HHH.
> 
> But I have no clue WHY, and it’s KILLING me.

It seems to originate from reddit, and it’s probably a product of their own inside joke.

Like how hasty typers kept posting “pwn” instead of “own,” so “pwn” became the word to use.

I’ve seen a few macros with “Thank you, Baise Haitch!” Maybe the last part is H + Aitch. Maybe it’s a drunk pronunciation of “Boss H.”

I read where the NXT girls call him Papa H. The man’s had a slew of monickers.

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**Post date:** [May 29, 2015, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2161 "2015-05-29T12:41:35Z")

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> [@LawMonkey](#):
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> In other news, Sasha Banks either is injured (per the dirt sheets) or not (per her own instagram).

The thing I read, which may require salt, is that the guy who was kicked in the head and completely knocked the fuck out by one of the Vaudevillains was her boyfriend. That she was at the tapings and was scheduled to wrestle on that very show, but she left with him in the ambulance when he was taken to the hospital.

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