# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 134
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2662 "2015-08-24T01:55:36Z")
Meh on the Divas match. Charlotte, Becky, Sasha and Paige should go back to NXT, which knows how to book them better. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2663 "2015-08-24T01:56:11Z")
NXT knows how to book _everyone_ better, considering how this show has been going. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2664 "2015-08-24T02:09:20Z")
As Ms. Cups is following people on twitter… Can someone here explain why the smarks just cream themselves over Kevin Owens? Is it because he’s fat like them? He literally does the exact same moves as a million other wrestlers, yet people think he is the greatest goddamn wrestler in the world. Hey…news flash…he was LITERALLY THE LAST INDY PERSON AVAILABLE. I’m fine with his mic skills, and honestly hes not bad, but ho-ly shit he is no better than, and is actually worse than, about 80% of the roster In other news this is a boring-ass PPV ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2665 "2015-08-24T02:14:15Z")
Cheese, KO took some hard licks that match. Guess it helps that he’s built like a bowling pin. Good match. Hate to see Cesaro kept down, but it’s good to have KO back on the winning track, for however long that lasts. Fuck Reigns. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2666 "2015-08-24T02:16:17Z")
I have to say no matter how the Brock/UT match plays out, NXT Takeover was the better show. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2667 "2015-08-24T02:17:23Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > I have to say no matter how the Brock/UT match plays out, NXT Takeover was the better show. I suppose they _could_ end the show with John Oliver giving a 20-minute monologue about how WWE’s business practices are abhorrent. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2668 "2015-08-24T02:44:53Z")
The Battle of Rest Holds ends in a yawn. What a suckfest of a PPV. I’m out. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2669 "2015-08-24T02:48:59Z")
Wow was THAT a waste of my night Tomorrow better be bonkers because this PPV suuuuuuuuuuucked ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2670 "2015-08-24T02:55:38Z")
Altogether lame. I hope that’s what Taker wants to be remembered for. T-Cups, KO is different, he’s not an over-worked character. But yeah, he’s also fat. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2671 "2015-08-24T03:28:57Z")
So let’s recap that finish. Brock has ‘Taker in a Kimura lock. Brock’s shoulders hit the mat. Lil’ Naitch counts one, and while he’s doing so, 'Taker taps out using the hand that Naitch can’t see. The _timekeeper_ sees the tapout and rings the bell on his own initiative. Naitch starts arguing with the timekeeper, and while he’s doing so, 'Taker punches Brock in the balls and locks in Hell’s Gate. Brock flips 'Taker off, then slowly retracts his finger, and Naitch takes that as a submission, calls for the bell, and declares Brock the winner. 'Taker fucks off to the back, Paul rings the bell again, and declares Brock the winner on his own. They had to put an _awful_ lot of planning into that, and yet, it still comes off looking like a botched clusterfuck. The end result? Nobody gets over, nobody looks good, nothing is established or resolved, and _both_ wrestlers look like losers. Vince Russo couldn’t have booked a finish like that at his best. If Takeover was a demonstration that Hunter is ready to take over the company when Vince retires, then Summerslam was a demonstration that Vince is ready to retire. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2672 "2015-08-24T03:40:50Z")
I like KO’s ring work, but not his mic work. I like Cesaro better, but KO needed the win more than Cesaro. As for Reigns, wild guess is that he’s nursing some nagging minor injury and working while recovering, hence the long sit-down. Otherwise the booking (which, we should all know, RR is not responsible for) makes no sense. The finishes sucked in the two main matches, Cena/Rollins and UT/BL. I would think that UT would have more pull and know that the finish would suck, or maybe he wants to finish a heel. Or maybe they are setting up a rubber match. For a TV super(?)-hero, Amell had the least super physique of the 4. Meanwhile, King Barrett is now Chairman of the J.O.B. Squad. Only thing worse is not even getting on the show. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2673 "2015-08-24T03:54:00Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > As for Reigns, wild guess is that he’s nursing some nagging minor injury and working while recovering, hence the long sit-down. Otherwise the booking (which, we should all know, RR is not responsible for) makes no sense. The thing about Roman Reigns is that he’s best in small doses. He’s fairly limited as a worker - he has a few power moves which are really impressive, but he doesn’t sell very well and he has trouble working long matches on his own. When he was in the Shield, that worked fine because he could spend most of the match on the apron and hit the spear for the win, but it’s problematic when they’re trying to build him as a top contender. He spent about half an hour of the Royal Rumble rolling around on the floor until nearly the end to try and cover the fact that he lacks the stamina to keep going for that long, and they did pretty much the same thing here. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 1:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2674 "2015-08-24T13:59:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > . He spent about half an hour of the Royal Rumble rolling around on the floor until nearly the end to try and cover the fact that he lacks the stamina to keep going for that long, and they did pretty much the same thing here. Unfortunately, his match on the RAW here in Minneapolis was more of the same. Lengthy rest holds and rolling around on the floor. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2675 "2015-08-24T14:02:07Z")
After digesting the last couple matches a little more…they still sucked. I really do wonder what they’re doing with Taker. He’s not even “finishing his career as a heel” as was mentioned above, at this point he’s just being weak and he looks terrible. I actually thought the ending to Cena/Rollins was OK, except Jon Stewart played his hand too early. He was teasing hitting Cena almost right away and never should have done that. He should have done a Rollins and acted face until the berry last second ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2676 "2015-08-24T14:25:08Z")
Was thinking that, other than ‘boys club’, there wasn’t really a compelling reason to have Finn Balor/Kevin Owens as the main event on Takeover. Bayley winning her first championship was so much more emotional and feel good that it SHOULD have been the main event and final match to send people home happy. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2677 "2015-08-24T16:07:18Z")
What’s more, Bayley vs Sasha made the entire SS Diva output look like crap. Well actually, the SS match already looked like crap. The Bellas just don’t have the work ethic of the NXT girls. Bailey & Sasha went back and forth, and it wasn’t this “heel beats up on face until face wins in the last 15 seconds” drek. Bailey & Sasha worked together and worked their tight little buns off. The Bellas just expected the “new girls” to lie there and make them look good. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2678 "2015-08-24T16:28:39Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Was thinking that, other than ‘boys club’, there wasn’t really a compelling reason to have Finn Balor/Kevin Owens as the main event on Takeover. Bayley winning her first championship was so much more emotional and feel good that it SHOULD have been the main event and final match to send people home happy. Normally I would agree with you here, but technically we aren’t supposed to know Bayley is going to win (and aren’t technically supposed to know Finn will retain), so on that grounds the World Title \> Women’t Title, and thus should be the Main Event. Although given how un-kayfabe wrestling has gotten in the recent months it wouldn’t have surprised me if they did let the women go last as a wink-wink-nod-nod kind of thing ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2679 "2015-08-24T16:57:47Z")
I guess the question is whether or not the Bellas really are leaving (or if this isn’t some stupid assed Total Divas swerve) and when their contracts end. That and I’m still waiting for the annual list of releases. Won’t be surprised to see a handful of phony divas on it. ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2680 "2015-08-25T00:40:13Z")
WAAAAASSSSSSSUUUUUUPPPPP?!?!?!?!?!?! I’m not too proud to say I marked out. TESTIFY!!! ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2015, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/2681 "2015-08-25T00:53:27Z")
> [@Cell\_Guy](#): > > WAAAAASSSSSSSUUUUUUPPPPP?!?!?!?!?!?! > > I’m not too proud to say I marked out. > > TESTIFY!!! So did I. But Vince does this all the time - make the champs look weak. Totally destroys the mystique of being a champion. Feed the Dudleys Los Matadores, protect the champions. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=133) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=135)