# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 160
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3182 "2015-11-13T21:23:53Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > [Billy Gunn has been fired for testing positive for PEDs in a powerlifting competition he didn’t tell WWE he was competing in.](http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/1113/603762/billy-gunn-fired-by-wwe/) > > Gotta say I didn’t see that one coming. Have you SEEN Billy Gunn?!? This was coming a mile away ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3183 "2015-11-13T22:32:28Z")
Billy Gunn was still with WWE? ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2015, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3184 "2015-11-13T22:43:14Z")
> [@ekedolphin](#): > > Billy Gunn was still with WWE? As of late he was a coach in NXT and was occasionally refereeing and working tag matches there. Last time he appeared on TV, IIRC, was when he and Road Dogg ran out during the DX vs. nWo brawl during the Sting/Trips match at WrestleMania. You may also recall their brief run as tag champions last year, though I’ll forgive you if you’ve chosen to forget it - it started with them turning heel on CM Punk for no explicable reason and ended with them jobbing to the Usos in a throwaway match on Raw. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3185 "2015-11-14T04:08:41Z")
What a meat head. He already had a career that didn’t require juicing up, and he blows it all to show he can lift heavy things in his fifties. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3186 "2015-11-14T16:04:11Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > You may also recall their brief run as tag champions last year, though I’ll forgive you if you’ve chosen to forget it - it started with them turning heel on CM Punk for no explicable reason and ended with them jobbing to the Usos in a throwaway match on Raw. Didn’t it start with them coming back for a Rumble, then beating Cody/Goldy for the titles? Either way, I remember seeing him from time-to-time at the NXT house shows and was amazed at how huge he still was. Steroids were definitely still in play ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3187 "2015-11-14T16:29:41Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Billy Gunn has been fired for testing positive for PEDs in a powerlifting competition he didn’t tell WWE he was competing in. Why do I have a feeling that the truth is: Billy Gunn has been fired for…a powerlifting competition he didn’t tell WWE he was competing in. (Oh, and he happened to test positive for PEDs as well.) Only names Vince thinks will remain “big” can get away with things like that, and even then, they get Severe Talkings To (case in point: Chris Jericho got one for hosting a game show on ABC, while WWE still had some sort of deal with NBC at the time.) ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3188 "2015-11-14T17:02:20Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > Didn’t it start with them coming back for a Rumble, then beating Cody/Goldy for the titles? It was the turning heel on CM Punk that lead to them getting a title shot at TLC. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3189 "2015-11-15T12:42:01Z")
So then…no Rousey at 'Mania? ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3190 "2015-11-15T13:50:46Z")
Rousey still has some value to WWE. They need someone to take the jobbing duties off Becky Lynch. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3191 "2015-11-15T15:29:21Z")
Why have Rousey, an established MMA fighter, take on a figurehead? They’d have to book Stephanie as dominant for most of the match, which nobody would buy. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3192 "2015-11-15T15:41:48Z")
Rousey is a bigger draw for WWE now. I can’t recall his name right off hand, former MMA champion now big star in WWE… it’s on the tip of my tongue… something some-thing… ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3193 "2015-11-15T16:22:27Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Rousey is a bigger draw for WWE now. I can’t recall his name right off hand, former MMA champion now big star in WWE… it’s on the tip of my tongue… something some-thing… Ken Shamrock? Did he re-sign with WWE? 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3194 "2015-11-15T17:24:22Z")
Hall of Famer, world champion, and NWA/AWA legend Nick Bockwinkel [has passed away at age 80.](http://www.wwe.com/inside/nick-bockwinkel-passes-away-28215026) He was before my time, but I know enough about wrestling history to know he was one of the greats - one of the biggest heels of his era, a pioneer in the art of cutting promos, and he went from working with Lou Thesz at the beginning of his career to Hulk Hogan at its end. He left a lasting mark on the business and he will surely be missed. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3195 "2015-11-15T20:06:24Z")
Bockwinkel was an incredible athlete as well as a great performer. I caught a couple of AWA shows in the 70s when he was still a credible wrestler. He and Verne Gagne were the mainstays of the AWA (Gagne’s promotion). A lot of entertaining wrestlers passed through the AWA, even though Gagne was a successful promoter I think it was Bockwinkel’s influence that developed some of the greats that passed through, Curt Hennig (Mr. Perfect), Sean Michaels, Iron Sheik, to name a few, and some famous but less great in my book guys like Hogan and Scott Hall. There’s gonna be a great match in wrestling heaven tonight, Bockwinkle and Gagne will go at it once more. Odds are Bockwinkel cheats to win. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3196 "2015-11-15T20:59:48Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > There’s gonna be a great match in wrestling heaven tonight, Bockwinkle and Gagne will go at it once more. Odds are Bockwinkel cheats to win. Odds are that there’ll be a Dusty finish where Verne Gagne and Vince McMahon Sr. disagree on who should have won. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3197 "2015-11-15T21:19:42Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Odds are that there’ll be a Dusty finish where Verne Gagne and Vince McMahon Sr. disagree on who should have won. 😃 Yeah right, like Vince Sr. is up there. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3198 "2015-11-15T21:44:21Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Yeah right, like Vince Sr. is up there. 😉 Well, I guess there couldn’t be a Wrestling Heaven without a Wrestling Hell. I guess that’s where they sent Baron von Raschke, and Chris Benoit, and one of the Sin Caras. You know, the evil one. The one that bladed Alberto. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3199 "2015-11-16T22:59:32Z")
Memo to **Sir T-Cups** ; NXT will be holding a special TV taping in Orlando, at the University of Central Florida, on January 22nd, two days before the Royal Rumble. Tickets go on sale Saturday. It’s an arena-sized venue that’s expected to seat 8,000 or so, so it shouldn’t be too difficult for you to get in if you’re so inclined. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3200 "2015-11-16T23:08:40Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Rousey is a bigger draw for WWE now. Actually, the last time something like this happened - when Buster Douglas beat Mike Tyson just before Tyson was supposed to show on a WWE show - Vince dropped Tyson like a hot potato and put Douglas in Tyson’s place. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3201 "2015-11-16T23:17:36Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > Memo to **Sir T-Cups** ; NXT will be holding a special TV taping in Orlando, at the University of Central Florida, on January 22nd, two days before the Royal Rumble. Tickets go on sale Saturday. It’s an arena-sized venue that’s expected to seat 8,000 or so, so it shouldn’t be too difficult for you to get in if you’re so inclined. 🙂 Don’t know how you found this out, but Ms. Cups just got very excited. Are they selling the tickets through .com? Or will we have to go through UCF? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=159) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=161)