# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 165
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2015, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3282 "2015-11-26T18:58:08Z")
Vince bought GCW (I.e. the Solie show) years before Jim Crockett started promoting wrestling on TBS, so presumably they have the rights to the tapes. ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3283 "2015-11-27T00:14:12Z")
> [@That\_Don\_Guy](#): > > I wonder if any of the Gordon Solie era episodes exist (the problem may be, I don’t think they’re Jim Crockett shows), and even if they do, can they get around whatever heat there is between Ole Anderson (Solie’s co-host) and Vince McMahon so they can air? They aired part of one once, but it was clearly a recording of some sort as it had the “Superstation WTBS” tags on it, and Roddy Piper was the co-host at the time. These are the JCP era shows. They start about a month before Starcade 85: The Gathering. The hosts are Tony Schiavone and David Crockett. And man, if you think MAGGLE is a bad announcer, listen to David Crockett some time. You’ll have a new appreciation for Michael Cole. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3284 "2015-11-27T01:39:17Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Were you at this taping STC? I only saw one guy in the front row with a green shirt, and it wasn’t you. We were on the floor during the Vaudevillians match before we were moved, so that’s the only one during the tapings we’ll be visible. We didn’t see the show since A. We were there, and B. We are visiting my parents back in Indiana for the holiday (thank you sweet Jesus for a real job!). I’ll look to see if we can see us when I get a sec to watch the match ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2015, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3285 "2015-11-27T01:42:21Z")
In any event, the next taping you go to, would you do me a solid, track down that guy who sits in the front row and looks suspiciously like Tensai/Jason Albert, and tell him I said he’s a total dick for making a big scene out of pretending to read a book during the Bayley/Eva match? I don’t mind the chanting, but that’s just a bit too much on the nose. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3286 "2015-11-30T22:28:10Z")
> [@Cell\_Guy](#): > > These are the JCP era shows. They start about a month before Starcade 85: The Gathering. The hosts are Tony Schiavone and David Crockett. And man, if you think MAGGLE is a bad announcer, listen to David Crockett some time. You’ll have a new appreciation for Michael Cole. God, me and my friends hated him, despite us being native Southerners. His hick accent was embarrassing and he acted like he was 5. The only reason he had that job was because his brother was the owner. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3287 "2015-11-30T22:28:52Z")
News to hold you over: Dolph Ziggler and Dana Brooke are apparently dating in real life. I 1000% believe this. Discuss ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3288 "2015-12-01T00:10:25Z")
“WWE says Stone Cold retired” NO FUCKING SHIT??? I still bet $20 that there will be morons in the dirt sheets talking about how he might do one more match, and/or calling for him to come back and wrestle some other guy who either did or should have retired 15 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3289 "2015-12-01T02:33:58Z")
Lol Tommy Dreamer. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3290 "2015-12-01T11:09:43Z")
I’m beginning to suspect that somewhere in Titan Towers there’s a bulletin board with pictures of every current or former WWE wrestler, and then once every three months Vince throws a fast at it to decide who Bray Wyatt is feuding with. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3291 "2015-12-01T14:09:25Z")
> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#): > > News to hold you over: > > Dolph Ziggler and Dana Brooke are apparently dating in real life. I 1000% believe this. Discuss Amy Schumer used to date him as well. [Broke up with him](http://www.ibtimes.com/amy-schumer-said-she-broke-wwe-superstar-dolph-ziggler-because-their-sex-was-too-athletic-video) because he rag-dolled her too much in bed. Maybe Dana can handle him better. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3292 "2015-12-01T14:15:12Z")
> [@Cell\_Guy](#): > > These are the JCP era shows. They start about a month before Starcade 85: The Gathering. The hosts are Tony Schiavone and David Crockett. And man, if you think MAGGLE is a bad announcer, listen to David Crockett some time. You’ll have a new appreciation for Michael Cole. I realize this. I can even tell you the date of the first episode; April 6, 1985 - six days after the first WrestleMania. (One of my admitted mark-out moments was turning on WTBS that day at 3:05 Pacific that day, expecting to see the WWF show and possibly some mention of what happened at WrestleMania;I think WWF was using the old “Georgia Championship Wrestling” title for the show, as I seem to remember thinking that Vince had let WrestleMania get to his head when “World Championship Wrestling” appeared on the screen…and then I saw the NWA logo.) ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3293 "2015-12-01T19:29:31Z")
Ted Turner did show WWF in place of GCW on TBS, but went back to the previous show after a few weeks, supposedly because Vince complained about his comp seats for Atlanta Braves games or something. They used the same studio as GCW, and it looked so weird to see Gorilla Monsoon doing the announcing instead of Gordon Solie. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3294 "2015-12-01T20:00:12Z")
The book “The Death of WCW” (which is a great read about the history of wrestling over the last 30 years in general) goes over that chapter in history in deeper detail, if you’re interested in learning more. ---
**Author:** ![Cell\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/df705f/32.png) [@Cell\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cell_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3295 "2015-12-01T22:21:24Z")
Oh man, the Network has started uploading episodes of Mid South from 1984 and Smoky Mountain from 1994. It’s like Christmas in December! Hopefully they’ll start loading more episodes of WCCW. Regardless they’ve earned my money this month! ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3296 "2015-12-01T22:26:14Z")
WWE’s website has just announced that Smackdown is coming to Portland in February, with tickets going on sale this Friday. They haven’t, however, announced the Raw taping for the night before, which should, if history is any indication, be emanating from somewhere in the greater Seattle area. Hopefully I’ll be able to snag tickets to both - the last time I went to Raw, we hijacked the show and helped make Daniel Bryan world champion, so naturally the next time around can only be better, right? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 1, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3297 "2015-12-01T23:26:40Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Amy Schumer used to date him as well. [Broke up with him](http://www.ibtimes.com/amy-schumer-said-she-broke-wwe-superstar-dolph-ziggler-because-their-sex-was-too-athletic-video) because he rag-dolled her too much in bed. Maybe Dana can handle him better. I hesitate to believe this only because I don’t really believe a thing Amy Schumer says. Don’t get me wrong, she’s funny, but when your act is basically “lol I’m a trashy slut lol lol” I hesitate to believe something is true when it’s about sex ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3298 "2015-12-02T13:20:03Z")
> [@Cell\_Guy](#): > > Oh man, the Network has started uploading episodes of Mid South from 1984 and Smoky Mountain from 1994. It’s like Christmas in December! Would that be UWF? They had some great talent that got raided by both WWF and NWA before they folded, like Hacksaw Jim Duggan, Junkyard Dog, The Freebirds, One Man Gang, Kamala, Sting, and Terry Taylor before he committed career suicide as the Red Rooster. Jim Ross cut his announcing teeth there, and they had some nice ladies talent such as Sunshine, Dark Journey, and Missy Hyatt. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3299 "2015-12-02T13:27:17Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > The book “The Death of WCW” (which is a great read about the history of wrestling over the last 30 years in general) goes over that chapter in history in deeper detail, if you’re interested in learning more. Excellent book. Revealed how WCW had pretty much been flying by the seat of their pants the entire time. They had no long-range goals and pretty much called it by ear every show. There was no real authority figure because Eric Bischoff had his head so far up Hulk Hogan’s ass and could just tap the Ted Turner cash reserve to spend his way out of trouble. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3300 "2015-12-02T14:49:15Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > Excellent book. Revealed how WCW had pretty much been flying by the seat of their pants the entire time. They had no long-range goals and pretty much called it by ear every show. There was no real authority figure because Eric Bischoff had his head so far up Hulk Hogan’s ass and could just tap the Ted Turner cash reserve to spend his way out of trouble. Well, giving Hogan complete creative control over his own booking was incredibly stupid. And yeah, that’s why we got all those Kidman matches at the beginning of the show. Because they still hadn’t finished writing the damned show, so they were sent out, week after week, to buy time. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2015, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3301 "2015-12-02T15:13:31Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Well, giving Hogan complete creative control over his own booking was incredibly stupid. Didn’t he have that in WWE? Or is there another explanation as to why Hogan never wrestled Andre before WM 3 (at least in WWWhatever) - and even then, they had to turn Andre heel, because God forbid that Hogan doesn’t get far more cheers than his opponent? Yes, he did drop the belt a year later, but wasn’t that just before he needed time off to make _No Holds Barred_ - er, before Earthquake literally squashed him and they spent the next few months showing shots of Hogan in a hospital bed and Gorilla Monsoon asking the fans to send Hogan get well cards? I think the real problem was, Hogan had some control over other WCW matches as well. I seriously doubt that it was Eric Bischoff’s idea to have Stunning Steve Austin be handed the belt (by Ricky Steamboat, IIRC), only to lose it a minute later in a title match to Jim Duggan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=164) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=166)