# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\ **Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 171
**Author:** ![RVD420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RVD420](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RVD420)\ **Post date:** [December 24, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3402 "2015-12-24T18:23:13Z")
To be fair, the shows have always just been house shows designed to make the troops happy. ---
**Author:** ![RVD420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RVD420](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RVD420)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3403 "2015-12-26T12:16:03Z")
Anyone get any wrestling merch for Xmas? I got the Ultimate Warrior book. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3404 "2015-12-26T15:34:30Z")
What, no ganja? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2015, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3405 "2015-12-26T18:38:59Z")
My Xmas present to myself was tickets to Raw and Smackdown when they roll through in February. My ticket for Raw is in the 5th row facing the hard camera, so you just might see me. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2015, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3406 "2015-12-27T19:01:51Z")
So, according to Forbes’ latest WWE column, Vince has someone special in mind to fight Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania; [Bill Goldberg.](http://www.forbes.com/sites/blakeoestriecher/2015/12/26/this-week-in-wwe-biz-brock-lesnar-vs-goldberg-at-wrestlemania-32-roman-reigns-reputation-more/) If this is true, allow me to be the first to say _oh hell no, what the hell is wrong with you you crazy old man, it’s time for Steph and Hunter to put you in a home before you insist on destroying your own company from the inside_. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3407 "2015-12-27T19:31:05Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > So, according to Forbes’ latest WWE column, Vince has someone special in mind to fight Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania; > > [Bill Goldberg.](http://www.forbes.com/sites/blakeoestriecher/2015/12/26/this-week-in-wwe-biz-brock-lesnar-vs-goldberg-at-wrestlemania-32-roman-reigns-reputation-more/) > > If this is true, allow me to be the first to say _oh hell no, what the hell is wrong with you you crazy old man, it’s time for Steph and Hunter to put you in a home before you insist on destroying your own company from the inside_. What the heck, they’re paying Lesnar to show up, who cares who he fights? Better to have Goldberg part of a lame match than someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3408 "2015-12-28T03:15:18Z")
I would absolutely mark out if Goldberg came back, but I think a Rumble appearance would make more sense. Besides, if Goldberg came for some actual matches I would want him to give the rub to someone like Neville or Kallisto or someone who could contrast his style ---
**Author:** ![RVD420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RVD420](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RVD420)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3409 "2015-12-28T08:14:12Z")
I would seriously mark for a Goldberg return against Lesnar. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3410 "2015-12-28T15:53:13Z")
Oh God no. The man was never that special, just booked that way, seriously hurt people and has been out of the business for too many damned years. No desire to see WWE give that man another dime. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3411 "2015-12-28T16:39:36Z")
> [@RVD420](#): > > I would seriously mark for a Goldberg return against Lesnar. …you guys _do_ remember what happened the last time Brock fought Goldberg, right? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3412 "2015-12-28T17:52:32Z")
> [@Smapti](#): > > …you guys _do_ remember what happened the last time Brock fought Goldberg, right? That was 12 years ago and Goldberg’s last match as far as I know. The only cheers either of them got was when Special Guest referee Stone Steve Cold Austin put the Stunner on them both. Goldberg would have some serious ring rust. Brock’s not really a roster member these days, so he’s only going to be booked for “special occasions.” The first few moments of the match would be the two of them staring at each other while the audience goes vocal. So far the event promises to be underwhelming. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3413 "2015-12-28T18:45:02Z")
It’s like some of these people have zero grasp of the passage of time and completely forget the reality of what happened back then. Keep yearning for Goldberg, keep crying for ‘one more match’ out of Stone Cold, keep thinking that none of the current guys are ‘stars’ because only (hopeless midcarder from 20 years ago) and guys like that are STARS. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3414 "2015-12-29T01:17:43Z")
Well, I admit, they had me. They played the tired old ‘Evil Boss has Top Face Arrested for Assault’ chestnut, then turned it on it’s head by having Vince arrested for being a dick to the cops. ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3415 "2015-12-29T03:51:32Z")
Keep in mind that I want Goldberg back for the Rumble, not for a run. Although I know it’s now famous he ended Bret’s career, who else did he hurt? ---
**Author:** ![RVD420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RVD420](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RVD420)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3416 "2015-12-29T11:14:24Z")
I think he hurt Meng, which must take some doing. ---
**Author:** ![RVD420](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/9d8465/32.png) [@RVD420](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RVD420)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3417 "2015-12-29T11:15:27Z")
Vince getting arrested on Raw and Steph’s carny acting was poor poor television. Why do I watch this shit sometimes? ---
**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3418 "2015-12-29T15:04:26Z")
> [@RVD420](#): > > Vince getting arrested on Raw and Steph’s carny acting was poor poor television. Why do I watch this shit sometimes? Because it’s hilarious. It’s a soap opera with play-fighting. Bad acting and stupid cheesy arrest plot lines are what makes wrestling fun. Maybe it’s because I’m still a (relatively) new fan, but stuff like that doesn’t bother me and I seem to be much happier as a fan than most because I just take it as fun and dumb and at the end of the day…it’s wrestling. ---
**Author:** ![That\_Don\_Guy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/that_don_guy/32/538_2.png) [@That\_Don\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/That_Don_Guy)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3419 "2015-12-29T16:53:55Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Well, I admit, they had me. They played the tired old ‘Evil Boss has Top Face Arrested for Assault’ chestnut, then turned it on it’s head by having Vince arrested for being a dick to the cops. You mean, they played the tired old “Try to have the top face arrested for something, only for the boss to be arrested (or threatened to be arrested) for being a dick to the cops” storyline. Yes, it has happened before. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3420 "2015-12-29T17:49:17Z")
> [@RVD420](#): > > I think he hurt Meng, which must take some doing. Actually, Meng/Haku was a legitimate beast. From his [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonga_Fifita): > [@](#): > > In an article on their website, WWE said “Haku has the reputation of being, perhaps, the toughest man to step in the ring. Just the mention of his name would send a chill up the spine of his foes, and some of his friends, too.” In 1987, Haku had a backstage fight with Jesse Barr (who wrestled in the WWF as Jimmy Jack Funk) which allegedly resulted in Fifita gouging one of Barr’s eyeballs out, causing Barr to later wear a glass eye. After this fight, Fifita had a reputation that steered wrestlers away from backstage confrontations. Regarding the rumor, Fifita, in a 2011 interview, stated “I didn’t take his eyeballs off. I was ready to, my hands were in there, ready to take his eye off, but then I realized how stupid we were. Here we are brothers on the road together. I told Jim after all these things, and he got fired for it, and all these things here, and I feel bad for him, Jim. It was something that happened at that moment.” > > In a radio interview, Goldberg said “I guarantee you the Steiner Brothers and Meng and the Barbarian would have made a huge splash in the MMA world. I don’t know of a human being alive that could take out Meng in his prime. I really don’t. One story I remember was when it took like 13 guys to get him out of a bar with Ric Flair. He was pepper sprayed and laughed at the cops and broke the cuffs right in front of them. This was a totally different human being.” > > On March 3, 1989, Fifita got into an altercation with some men at the Baltimore Airport bar who called wrestling “fake”, and during the fight, Fifita bit off the nose of one of the men. Fifita stated, “Yeah. It was in Baltimore Airport. There was a hotel there. We were staying at another hotel – the Marriott or something. There was another hotel there, though. It was hopping at the time. The music was playing and it was packed. It was during the week I believe. Me and Siva Afi went over and there were lots of babyfaces there at the bar. So we went and sat in the other corner away from them. When they were ready to close, we had a few drinks, and on our way out there were five guys just sitting there. Of course, the same thing came out. The ‘fake’ stuff. ‘Hey, are you guys with those guys – wrestlers? The fake wrestlers on TV?’ You know. I said, ‘Yeah. I’ll show you.’ And I reached over without thinking – there are four other guys there (laughs) – grabbed his face, and bit his nose off. Then the fight started. Me and Siva kind of cleaned house there and left. I’ll never forget it (laughs).” ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/3421 "2015-12-29T17:55:28Z")
TMZ is reporting that the NYPD fielded a large number of phone calls about Vince’s “arrest”. I guess there _are_ still a few people to whom it’s real, dammit. In other news, Corey Graves apparently taped a two-hour interview with Lemmy several weeks ago which might be airing on the Network sometime soon. I have a feeling we’ll be seeing him in the Hall of Fame this year. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=170) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124.md?page=172)