# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/561 "2014-10-24T14:01:44Z")

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You are pretty close actually, it does pain me deep inside when my girl loses, but if you need to turn heel, hitting a poor defeated defenseless Bayley is certainly the way to do it. From a personal investment (re: my love for Bayley) standpoint I hate it. From a storyline standpoint I liked it (although I did meet/talk to Becky before the house show I went to and she was quite nice)

I thought of you **Knowed Out** (omg…I literally just now realized your username is a play off “no doubt” ha…) during the Enzo/Cass segment because you did indeed call it. I hope that they DON’T kill that team because they are both Gold together, and I can’t imagine they’d be very good apart.

I thought it was so so stupid for Itami to come out and do what he did. It didn’t even establish anything! Ascension squashed some jobbers (two more guys I saw at the house show albeit apart) then beat up one guy. Who’s supposed to look impressive here? The dominant team being nobodies? who then beat up one guy? The one guy who stupidly ran in to get his ass kicked? It’s like they had him run out so that we didn’t forget they were feuding. Itami shoudl have either cost the boys a victory, or The Ascension should have beating a REAL team (Enzo/Cass, Vaudevillians) to establish dominance again.

I can’t imagine they’re doign a face turn for Breeze. I think it just LOOKS that way because STAY HYPED was being a creepy stalker, and Breeze is pretty over with the fans. I mean, Breeze hurt the guy…what’s more heel than that? (other than attacking my future wife Bayley)

Lastly, I’m gonna cuz Neville a little slack on his moveset and I think it’s far from stale. Why everyone thinks he’s stale right now is because he plays to his competition, and a failing Titus O’Neal isn’t that. Remember how good the triple threat was with Tyson and Zayn? Once the Zayn rivalry hits, I think we’ll be more impressed with his high-flying antics since the falls that lead up to them will look more organic.

Whew this was long…I still have a whole day to go today. I’ll be back later this afternoon to do my HIAC picks (That will be SO much more accurate than others on this thread hehe)

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> I would like to see Alex Riley become more of a egotistical heel than straddle the fence on commentary. He’s got the upper crust preppie vibe, and Albert Tensai was setting him up for some heelish barbs, but Riley wouldn’t take the bait. He seems to be more concerned about towing the line for WWE and not making waves.

Kinda hard for Riley to be egotistical when like on the last PPV they were making jokes at his expense about how he has never held gold. (“I’ve held the Intercontinental Belt, how about you?” “Yes, I’ve held the IC title too. How about you, Alex? No? lol”) If he was a repeat champion of some level, I might take his egotism seriously, but he’s not.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/563 "2014-10-24T16:51:09Z")

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Was last night’s episode the first time they’ve had Byron Saxton as ring announcer? Because he’s _good_. Howard Finkel good. Considering that Justin Roberts isn’t with the company anymore, I can see him getting fast-tracked to announcing for the main roster if he’s capable of delivering on a consistent basis like he did on this episode.

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Saxon’s been the ring announcer for house tours, so he’s got the experience. I remember he was doing his part to get the audience to make noise.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/565 "2014-10-24T18:13:38Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> So, as of last night’s Smackdown tapings, we have a fairly solid eight-match card booked, and that means it’s time again for _Smapti’s Completely 100% Accurate Match Predictions_\*;
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> - Cena vs. Orton in the Hell In A Cell, winner gets a title shot against Brock Lesnar on a future PPV. I really don’t see the need to have Cena and Orton fight _again_ - this will, in fact, be [the 22nd time](http://www.profightdb.com/wrestler_search/john-cena-350.html?opp=384) they’ve had a singles match against each other on TV over the years, and their second HIAC showdown. Making this a #1 contenders match at least allows it to advance the storylines, though. I have a feeling Randy Orton is going to turn face soon and feud with Rollins, so having him lose here to take him out of the title picture makes sense, and sets the stage for [Cena vs. Lesnar, Part 6](http://www.profightdb.com/wrestler_search/john-cena-350.html?opp=346).
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> - Dean Ambrose vs. Seth Rollins in the Hell In A Cell. This is a match they’ve been teasing since the Shield broke up, and I expect it to run away with the show. Ambrose is a world-class hardcore wrestler (just go on Youtube and look up some of his matches from CZW as Jon Moxley) and while I doubt anyone is going to get choke-slammed off the top of the cage or thrown face first into a pile of nails, this match is definitely going to get as hardcore as WWE’s broadcast standards these days will allow. As I’ve said before, Ambrose is basically in the position now that Daniel Bryan was last year where he’s getting bigger pops than anyone and he’s second only to Cena in who the company is putting over, so I expect him to win here.
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> - Sheamus vs. the Miz for the US title. Miz is one of my favorite heels right now, whereas Sheamus has been pretty directionless as US champion. I’d like to see him win, but I suspect the long-term plan is to have Rusev become US champion at some point, and Miz vs. Rusev wouldn’t be a very viable program. Either Sheamus retains, or they do another Dusty switcheroo (which seems to be becoming Miz’s thing) and have him win the belt on the PPV, then drop it back to Sheamus on Raw the next night.
> 
> - Cesaro vs. Dolph Ziggler for the Intercontinental title, two out of three falls. Best-of-threes matches have always been one of Cesaro’s strong points - he had a great one with Miz last year during his US championship run, and he worked several with Sami Zayn in NXT which I haven’t seen but have been told were classics. This should be another one of the best matches of the show. I’d like to see Cesaro win, but my fear here is that Cesaro has been in a position for awhile where he’s more popular than WWE _wants_ him to be, and every time he starts getting too popular they sabotage the character somehow (losing Paul Heyman, not being allowed to do the giant swing, that period last year where he became a yodeler, etc.) It could go either way, but I’m leaning towards Ziggler retaining.
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> - Big Show vs. Rusev. Easy call - Rusev either makes Big Show tap or pass out.
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> - Nikki Bella vs. Brie Bella, winner has to either quit WWE or become the loser’s “bitch” for 30 days. Is this the worst feud of the year or what? Did Vince Russo book this? I don’t even. Prediction: Nikki wins, gets a shot at the Divas title exactly 30 days later (which would be the right night for a Smackdown taping), and the time that Brie has to be Nikki’s slave for runs out right in the middle of the match, allowing her to interfere and cost Nikki the title.
> 
> - Goldust and Stardust vs. the Usos for the tag titles. Should be a pretty solid match, though I don’t expect anything we haven’t seen before. Prediction; The Usos win the belts back just in time to have to put them on the line against Bray Wyatt’s newest brothers in the name of cause, the Ascension.
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> - AJ Lee vs. Paige for the Divas title. This’ll be their sixth showdown in six months, and though I think Paige is one of the better women wrestlers in the company, this feud is getting pretty old, and I can hardly tell whether she’s supposed to be a face or a heel or what. As for AJ, WWE seems to be protecting her in the hopes of keeping a line of communication open with her husband (what was his name? BN Metal?) - in terms of statistics she’s second only to the Fabulous Moolah in WWE history, but she’s not that great a wrestler, her finisher is silly, and she looks and acts like she’s in junior high and the Total Divas got to go to homecoming with John Cena instead of her. She’ll likely retain, but I think her character needs to become more viscious and evil and less bubbly - ditch the theme song for, say, “Black Widow” by Iggy Azalea, and have her completely wrecking girls in the ring instead of getting into slapfights and having “frenemies”.
> 
> I haven’t heard about any pre-show matches being scheduled, but it’d be nice if they got an NXT match or two in - this could be a good place to show off Hideo Itami or Finn Balor to the larger fanbase and get them interested in watching NXT, or even to introduce Kevin Steen to WWE.
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> \*Your definition of "completely 100% accurate may differ from that used by Smapti, his subsidiaries, and affiliated organizations

Me Vs. Smapti! Head-to-head! TO THE DEATH! (or just for bragging rites)  
**Cena/Orton In Hell In A Cell** : I agree with my rival here for basically the same reasons. I think there is going to be a split in The Authority, and both Rollins and RKO are going to split off and face each other. Leaving the Authority as Trips, Steph, Kane, Nikki, and someone new they’ll adopt who I can only hope and pray is Reigns. Cena wins to send him Brrrrrrrrrock’s way and RKO goes on to face Rollins. Also gonna say Rollins interferes in this.

**Ambrose/Rollins in Hell in a Cell** : This is gonna be a barnburner. Ambrose wins, RKO and maybe even the whole Authority interfere and really all hell is gonna break loose. Someone is jumping from the top of the cell. Count it.

**Sheamus/Miz for the US title** : This is gonna be a good match because of one Damien Mizdow. Look for Mizdow to get in the match in some form or fashion, pin Sheamus, and win the title for himself/Miz. Then he’s gonna wanna keep it, and we have a new Rivalry.

**Cesaro/Ziggler for the IC title** : This is going to be a fun match that has a pretty dumb gimmick. This is a two-out-of-three falls match. Which means it’s a someone gets a pin, the other gets a pin, and then the match actually starts. The only way I can maybe see this NOT happening is if they stick this in the middle of the card for time. Need less time? Boom two in a row. Need more time? Use all three. Unfortunately for Zigs/IWC, I think he loses

**Big Show/Rusev** : A winner for Rusev (bru ha-ha). I don’t know when he’s going to lose, but I think it won’t be for a while although…DISSENTING OPINION ALERT…I think it should be soon. His gimmick is getting stale to me because he’s doing the same thing every week and his motivation is lacking now. Lose it to Show? Doubt it (although I wouldn’t hate it) I don’t know who he would lose it to though at this rate it’s probably gonna be Reigns

**Bella vs. Bella** : Obvious winner is Nikki because there is no way that Brie is in her character to be mean enough to have this “sister-is-my-bitch” thing. I think this will be a clean finish and will have oh so many repercussions (re: total divas BS)

**Cosmic Weirdos vs Usos** : Really…I just don’t care. I love Goldy, and Stardust is fun, but I miss “The Brotherhood” honestly and I don’t like the guys as heels. The Usos are fine for who they are, and I know that this is really match due to lack of anyone else. But I want to know why? Why kill Rybaxel? (who actually looked good for a bit) Why kill the Wyatts? So for sake of storyline I saw the Brothers win and retain.

**Paige vs Aj** : I don’t care about this one really either because right now this feud is Cena/Orton with boobs. These girls are feuding a lot, they keep trading the belts, this match won’t be the end of their feud so I’m not putting much credence in the end. I say AJ wins because she’s a bit more over now. I’ll chalk this up to another lack of talent. They have two divas divisions now that they have the “Total Divas” division and the “Champions” division, and apparently want to keep them separate.

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> **Sheamus/Miz for the US title** : This is gonna be a good match because of one Damien Mizdow. Look for Mizdow to get in the match in some form or fashion, pin Sheamus, and win the title for himself/Miz. Then he’s gonna wanna keep it, and we have a new Rivalry.

That is a possibility I had not considered. The idea of Sandow stealing the pin and proclaiming _himself_ the new US Champion is both absolutely hilarious and completely in character for him, and it would definitely make for an interesting feud if he and Miz continued dressing the same and using the same moves.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> That is a possibility I had not considered. The idea of Sandow stealing the pin and proclaiming _himself_ the new US Champion is both absolutely hilarious and completely in character for him, and it would definitely make for an interesting feud if he and Miz continued dressing the same and using the same moves.

Then you need each guy to have feuds with other also-rans/midcarders (Bo Dallas, Big E etc.) and they go to each other’s respective feuds because they think it’s THEIR feud.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/568 "2014-10-24T18:28:45Z")

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I dunno, I don’t see Ambrose winning just yet. Shenanigans will happen somehow. It’s like someone said in one of those WWE Network shows I was watching about some of the 80’s and 90’s stuff. You wait until everyone is demanding that the face win, then you wait some more. That way it really means something when it finally happens. That’s pretty much what they did with DBD, even when it went way too long and pissed everyone off.

We get Survivor Series next, then TLC. I see that feud continuing through those events.

Yes, even if that means more stupidity on RAW.

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**Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/569 "2014-10-24T18:49:51Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> I dunno, I don’t see Ambrose winning just yet. Shenanigans will happen somehow. It’s like someone said in one of those WWE Network shows I was watching about some of the 80’s and 90’s stuff. You wait until everyone is demanding that the face win, then you wait some more. That way it really means something when it finally happens. That’s pretty much what they did with DBD, even when it went way too long and pissed everyone off.
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> We get Survivor Series next, then TLC. I see that feud continuing through those events.
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> Yes, even if that means more stupidity on RAW.

Daniel Bryan wasn’t genius booking by WWE, they legitimately thought that he couldn’t carry the torch and it was really only after Punk left that they realized they had nothing there and had to do something.

Here’s an interesting take on DB that I personally realized a couple weeks ago. DB has been gone from TV for a while, and I really just do not miss him. I loved him at the time and was rooting for him, but I don’t see that much of a gap now that he’s gone.

Punk on the other hand? I miss him. I had berry berry little time with Punk before he quit, but I think that he really is needed now and that the Authority/Vince was right with DB. He wasn’t fit enough to carry the load

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Daniel Bryan wasn’t genius booking by WWE, they legitimately thought that he couldn’t carry the torch and it was really only after Punk left that they realized they had nothing there and had to do something.

It wasn’t even that, so much as it was that their attempting to put Batista over as a face completely and utterly failed. He was supposed to be the returning hero who won the Royal Rumble and took the belt back from Orton and the Authority, but the crowd utterly refused to accept him after he basically waltzed in and got handed the victory over Punk and Reigns (and Bryan who didn’t even appear in the match), and his acting like a total douchebag to the crowd after the cameras went dead and on social media afterward didn’t help.

With Punk gone, and Batista flailing to the point that Alberto Del Rio got the biggest pop of his career for giving him a chairshot at Elimination Chamber, they had no choice but to go with Plan C.

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Kinda hard for Riley to be egotistical when like on the last PPV they were making jokes at his expense about how he has never held gold. (“I’ve held the Intercontinental Belt, how about you?” “Yes, I’ve held the IC title too. How about you, Alex? No? lol”) If he was a repeat champion of some level, I might take his egotism seriously, but he’s not.

His wrestling career only lasted 5 minutes, so he doesn’t have that kind of cred anyway. I’m thinking he’s got the looks and the personality to pull off being an arrogant and annoying know-it-all commentator, kind of like Maggle Cole when he was a heel announcer, but less whiny.

I think he and Matt Bloom would be perfect foils for each other. Bloom would crack one of his corny jokes, and Riley would tell him “Oh my god, shut up you stupid fat disgusting pig!” But, I’m just an armchair booker. 😃

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Ok, watched Smackdown for the first time in a while. Never get to see much of RAW because I game that night. First shot at a review;

Ambrose cut a good promo, and I like the Dean Ambrose/Anarchy symbol. Don’t need to change it as he switches between face and heel. Rollins was ok. Standard “it was all ME!!!” promo telling the story of the villain who pretended to be a brother to get what he wanted before stabbing the hero in the back. They are actually telling a story, so I give WWE credit for that, I just wish the mid-card had more stories.

While the original plan with Damien Mizdow was probably to help Miz gain heel heat, as JBL said, Mizdow is overshadowing Miz and getting over with the audience. If this isn’t leading to a Sandow face turn and feud with Miz, then Vince is senile.

Ok, the Bo Dallas promo with the Dust brothers worked for me.

And I missed AJ’s face turn somewhere. Decent enough match with AJ selling until the sudden face victory finish.

I like the Bray Wyatt clip. He really does benefit from being away and the tweak to his character. Always an awesome character, but feuding with Cena and Jericho did him no favors and the promos were getting monotonous. They damn well better put him on the winning side of a couple of feuds in a row leading to some kind of gold. Imagine him holding the IC or US title for upwards of a year, defeating all comers with mind games and trickery. It would mean something when someone took it away from him, and those belts need that. You can’t do that with a year long Kofi Kingston or even Shaemus run. I think you could do it with Bray. Oh hell, give him both belts if you intend to unify them (maybe a couple of months apart), and let him hold them separately until the face finally takes them away, when you go to the single belt.

Big Show soldier promo. Ugh. I like Show, but this story is crap and that went on too long. I switched over to X-Men: First Class.

Wait, roughly a minute into the match and that generic announcer guy is saying Ziggler can’t put Cesaro away? WTF? Dumber in hindsight when the match was given 10 minutes. Anyway, it was a good match and I’m glad both guys are wrestling for gold, even if there isn’t a lot of story to it.

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All those awesome female wrestlers and we get the Divas. Natty, Charlotte, Paige, Emma, Baylee, AJ… Ok, I guess we did get the AJ/Paige story earlier tonight, but any other company could build an entire division on those six women and never look back.

Bo Dallas gets his fourth win over Mark Henry. Pretty good of him to be putting Bo over. Wish I could trust it was leading somewhere.

Two out of three falls for Cesaro-Ziggler at the PPV. Only if they give that enough time.

Rollins promo was ok for what it was, but way too slow paced. Unexpected Ambrose was expected. You know, if they just let Ambrose be Ambrose and not try to make him be Piper or Austin, he can end up as iconic as those two. But any way, Holy Fuck are they putting over Ambrose, and that is a good thing.

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> All those awesome female wrestlers and we get the Divas. Natty, Charlotte, Paige, Emma, Baylee, AJ…

Great news! Paige is joining Total Divas. So is Alicia Fox! Isn’t that great?

> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Neville’s matches need to have a better ending than having the heel run into his boots then LOOK EVERYBODY HERE COMES THE RED ARROW! When the heel falls to the mat, he usually shifts around to get in the proper prone position for Neville’s finish. The Red Arrow looks impressive now, but its novelty will eventually fade. Who was it who used to do the 450 Splash and is now a jobber? That’s right.

You’ve got to cut Neville some slack on this one–man was wrestling Titus O’Neill. I know great wrestlers can often get good matches out of shite opposition, but I don’t think you can hold it against a guy when he can’t. Anyway, that feud’s blown off (I hope) and we’re moving on.

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Geez, if you’re only just noticing now that the fallen guy shifts to be in the right position to take the move…

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Geez, if you’re only just noticing now that the fallen guy shifts to be in the right position to take the move…

Where did I say that?

And yes, I know it’s fake.

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**Post date:** [October 25, 2014, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/577 "2014-10-25T14:23:16Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Big Show soldier promo. Ugh. I like Show, but this story is crap and that went on too long. I switched over to X-Men: First Class.

Argh, that was painful to watch. Just because Big Show appeared in a couple other shows and a straight-to-DVD doesn’t mean he should be allowed to _act_.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/578 "2014-10-27T03:09:32Z")

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No spoilers til later on tomorrow (in case network users wanna catch up) but for those of us who saw.

I dunno guys…not liking this direction

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/579 "2014-10-27T03:19:24Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> No spoilers til later on tomorrow (in case network users wanna catch up) but for those of us who saw.
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> I dunno guys…not liking this direction

B-/C+ PPV in general. Going forward, depends entirely on where they take things.

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**Post date:** [October 27, 2014, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/580 "2014-10-27T12:10:55Z")

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I liked most of it, but hated the ending. Beyond his creepy videos, I don’t care for that character. All I care about is matches, and none of his have impressed me.

The Main Event reminded me of the first HIAC. The fall from the side, the monster ruining the finish, etc.

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