# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\
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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> She did not. Her first opponent actually was
> 
> Tessa Blanchard

Thank god. Kairi’s great, and I’ve loved Mercedes since I first saw her on SHIMMER Vol. 1: she was in the co-main on their first show, and worked a time-limit draw with current WWEPC head women’s trainer Sara Del Rey. Very talented and accomplished worker: there are only three major all-women’s promotions in North America, and Mercedes is the only woman that’s been the champion in all three of them. Really hoping that she goes deep in the tournament. And yeah, I could get my whole life to a Mercedes/Kairi final.

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> … The biggest surprise of the night? Rhonda Rousey! She was there for an MMA girl.

Shayna Bayzler? Yeah, she was part of Rousey’s MMA version of the Four Horsewomen, along with Jessamyn Duke and, uh… the other one, who switched from MMA to 'rasslin, after taking too many L’s. She’s been working in SHIMMER for the last few tapings.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6184 "2017-07-14T16:12:57Z")

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> [@Reluctant\_A](#):
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> Shayna Bayzler? Yeah, she was part of Rousey’s MMA version of the Four Horsewomen, along with Jessamyn Duke and, uh… the other one, who switched from MMA to 'rasslin, after taking too many L’s. She’s been working in SHIMMER for the last few tapings.

Definitely her. RR came out with two other ladies and when the match was over Shayna went over to them and did the 4 on their fingers.

Things and information like that make me torn. Part of me thinks “I should have looked into it more” so that I don’t sound as ignorant/stupid as I probably usually do on here. But another part of me likes the ignorance because I feel like I’m not primed to like someone in advance like I am with Kairi, Crazy Mary and Johnny Garbonzo’s wife.

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**Post date:** [July 14, 2017, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6185 "2017-07-14T19:23:20Z")

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Goddamnitsomuch.

They’re cancelling Talking Smack. :mad:

Sure, put it on an hour later because of 205 Live, and then have it too-frequently co-hosted by Shane McMahon, the least interesting man in the Universe.

I didn’t usually watch it live just because of audience fatigue (they’re really pushing things with 3 hours Monday and 3.5 on Tuesday), but I _always_ watched it at some point.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6186 "2017-07-15T02:21:47Z")

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I’ve had no access to TV or internet for the past week. Sometimes it’s good to get off the grid to recharge. I read the spoilers because I’m lazy.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6187 "2017-07-15T13:29:09Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Goddamnitsomuch.
> 
> They’re cancelling Talking Smack. :mad:
> 
> Sure, put it on an hour later because of 205 Live, and then have it too-frequently co-hosted by Shane McMahon, the least interesting man in the Universe.
> 
> I didn’t usually watch it live just because of audience fatigue (they’re really pushing things with 3 hours Monday and 3.5 on Tuesday), but I _always_ watched it at some point.

There’s a lot of speculation as to why, and time will only tell, but I can think of two reasons:

1. It broke kayfabe too much.
2. DB is slllooowwwwlllyyy trying to get out of WWE and they know people would freak out if they suddenly pulled him from TV, so they’re killing the whole thing. Sinking the ship to drown a rat if you will

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6188 "2017-07-15T14:34:58Z")

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I don’t know that he would try to leave before his contract is up, which is next summer I believe, as he’s making over $1 million a year as I recall. But yeah, he’s in the catbird seat and can pretty much say whatever the fuck he wants and what are they going to do? Release him? 😃

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6189 "2017-07-15T14:36:24Z")

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Broke kayfabe too much? WWE can’t be _that_ concerned with exposing the business, as long as _Total Divas_ continues to exist.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6190 "2017-07-15T14:39:16Z")

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Oh he’s clearly said some things they don’t like. I recall one episode where I think he just straight out removed his ear piece saying someone was screaming in his ear. Smiling as he did so.

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**Post date:** [July 15, 2017, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6191 "2017-07-15T17:11:02Z")

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Petition to keep Talking Smack. Very close to 10,000 signatures already.

> **[Sign the Petition](https://www.change.org/p/wwe-bring-back-talking-smack-5e7157da-eb87-4a61-858f-9f009c39e830?source_location=minibar)**
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> BRING BACK "TALKING SMACK"

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WWE abandoned kayfabe already with all the behind-the-scenes shows like Tough Enough, Travel Tales, Dinner For 3, and sowon.

Maybe the cast was sick of having to stick around for an extra hour after wrapping up SD. It used to air right after SD, before it got humped back by 205 Live.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6193 "2017-07-17T01:04:17Z")

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Story is that Vince was unhappy with the unscripted nature of the show.

Just. Fucking. Stupid.

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> WWE abandoned kayfabe already with all the behind-the-scenes shows like Tough Enough, Travel Tales, Dinner For 3, and sowon.
> 
> Maybe the cast was sick of having to stick around for an extra hour after wrapping up SD. It used to air right after SD, before it got humped back by 205 Live.

> [@Chimera](#):
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> Story is that Vince was unhappy with the unscripted nature of the show.
> 
> Just. Fucking. Stupid.

WWE also cancelled Unfiltered with Renee Young.

I’m telling you, despite kayfabe being dead for years, and the product being more transparent than ever, Vince isn’t liking the shows on his network being so real.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6195 "2017-07-17T17:25:59Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> WWE also cancelled Unfiltered with Renee Young.
> 
> I’m telling you, despite kayfabe being dead for years, and the product being more transparent than ever, Vince isn’t liking the shows on his network being so real.

He’s just taking after his orange-hued buddy. He doesn’t mind the shows being real as long as he controls the narrative. When they stray too far away from what Vince wants, Vince pulls the plug.

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**Post date:** [July 17, 2017, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/6196 "2017-07-17T18:14:31Z")

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Well, the story/rumor is that Vince is so blind now (physical blindness) that he is no longer travelling with shows and overseeing them. But he’s increasingly micromanaging everything by telephone. :smack:

I swear, someday someone is going to find him in his office at Titan Towers, wearing a bathrobe and kleenex boxes on his feet.

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His fingernails will grow to three feet long, and he’ll collect jars of his own urine.

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The man has an entire wellness process. He’ll collect jars of his wrestler’s urine.

_“And here is my prize specimen! A full gallon of the Undertaker’s urine!”_

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> The man has an entire wellness process. He’ll collect jars of his wrestler’s urine.
> 
> _“And here is my prize specimen! A full gallon of the Undertaker’s urine!”_

“…goddammit!”

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So Kurt Angle’s dark secret, that Corey Graves was diligently investigating for months, that could cost him his family and force him to leave WWE… is that Jason Jordan is his son from a relationship he had _before_ he met his first wife? On a scale where 1 equals “I forgot our anniversary” and 10 equals “I killed my father and married my mother”, that’s a 2.5 tops.

A little surprising too, considering [what we know Kurt thinks about the black people.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZszUb5-bA_U)

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I was hoping it’d be that he bumped uglies with Dixie Carter.

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> A little surprising too, considering [what we know Kurt thinks about the black people.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZszUb5-bA_U)

Considering that he’s known to have dated black women in the past, I wouldn’t put too much weight into that as it was a WWE promo.

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