# Any WWE fans in the audience? (Part 1)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** boxing-wrestling-mma\
**Created:** [June 5, 2014, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124 "2014-06-05T15:34:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7003 "2018-02-13T15:50:47Z")

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So much for the Booker T / Corey Graves feud. Turns out it was a total work.

ETA: Unless both saying it was a work is the real work…

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7004 "2018-02-13T16:48:13Z")

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I don’t know that we’ll ever know, but I wouldn’t be completely surprised if Trips or someone else had a little chat with Booker about how bad that looked for him.

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**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7005 "2018-02-13T17:30:21Z")

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I didn’t know Braun was a fan of dubstep…

…because he really dropped the bass last night!

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7006 "2018-02-13T19:14:37Z")

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> [@dzeiger](#):
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> I didn’t know Braun was a fan of dubstep…
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> …because he really dropped the bass last night!

Hey oh!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7007 "2018-02-14T01:23:50Z")

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I was kinda wondering where they got the obviously broken musical instrument.

Also wondered in Strowman got any heat for hitting him with the string side instead of the back side, even though it clearly impacted the floor on the other side of Elias first.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 14, 2018, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7008 "2018-02-14T14:59:26Z")

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I used to play string bass, and it’s easier to grip the bridge from the underside. The shape of the instrument makes it hard to grip and face it the other way while holding it by the bridge, because the center of gravity is behind the standing peg, thus it naturally has a tendency to spin to the front.

On the other hand, I don’t see it being a problem for somebody like Braun to hold it however the fuck he wants.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7009 "2018-02-15T16:03:57Z")

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Apparently PPVs are going back to co-branded.

A good move from a match perspective, probably not for a time perspective tho. 4-hours PPVs here we come…

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7010 "2018-02-15T16:11:14Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> Apparently PPVs are going back to co-branded.

The real problem with that being that the undercards will now get almost no play on co-branded shows. ☹

Shitshow booking is the reason for this, not the talent themselves.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7011 "2018-02-15T21:21:34Z")

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Rich Swann is no more. The phrasing was “mutually agreed to part ways” to maybe it was more amicable than it seems.

Now he can head over to Impact and just wrestle with his wife.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7012 "2018-02-15T22:01:21Z")

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> [@Sir\_T-Cups](#):
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> just wrestle with his wife.

Are we not doing phrasing anymore? 😃

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**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 7:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7013 "2018-02-16T07:32:41Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Are we not doing phrasing anymore? 😃

His wife, [Su Yung](https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prowrestling/images/b/ba/Su_Yung_I.png), has wrestled in our local indy a few times. She’s a terrifying lady and I certainly wouldn’t lay a hand on her if I was married to her.

In other news, I read today that there were talks for Hulk Hogan to do a one-off appearance at last month’s Wrestle Kingdom, but New Japan backed off when he wanted to be paid $750,000 for the gig. Just as well - he’s in the “Old man trying to convince his grandkids that he’s still cool” stage of his life at this point and would have dragged down the card with his nonsense.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7014 "2018-02-16T13:41:12Z")

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Looks like they’re working a long-term angle for Elias and Bayley. Elias is being driven in a limo in the most recent Ride Along, and Bayley calls him up and asks why he’s been ignoring her calls. He blows her off and says to the camera “she calls me at least four times a day.” Stalker Bayley could be interesting and a little bit disturbing.

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**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7015 "2018-02-16T13:51:16Z")

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When “The Rock” left to pursue what has been a great movie career, I basically stopped watching. I don’t recognize many of the names you mention in this thread. There are a few old veterans still around that I do recognize like “Triple H” and “Cena” and “Baptista”.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7016 "2018-02-16T14:31:06Z")

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> [@Jasmine](#):
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> When “The Rock” left to pursue what has been a great movie career, I basically stopped watching. I don’t recognize many of the names you mention in this thread. There are a few old veterans still around that I do recognize like “Triple H” and “Cena” and “Baptista”.

Baustista 😃

Or “Bluetista if you’re being snarky”

Impact announced the rebirth of a “tentpole PPV” in late April. It’ll be live on a Sunday and back at Universal. Impact still lives in Florida!

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 16, 2018, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7017 "2018-02-16T15:00:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> In other news, I read today that there were talks for Hulk Hogan to do a one-off appearance at last month’s Wrestle Kingdom, but New Japan backed off when he wanted to be paid $750,000 for the gig. Just as well - he’s in the “Old man trying to convince his grandkids that he’s still cool” stage of his life at this point and would have dragged down the card with his nonsense.

Yeah, a laughable amount of money. I expect even Vince would laugh and hang up on him after he asked for that much.

If he was serious about getting back into the biz and realistic about his age and status, he’d have asked for low 5 figures. Just to get back in the door.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2018, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7018 "2018-02-17T02:35:09Z")

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I guess when he sued Gawker out of business all he got was a few servers full of voyeur videos.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7019 "2018-02-19T16:03:16Z")

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Co-branded PPVs became official over the weekend. So did having only one PPV a month (thank God)

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7020 "2018-02-19T17:00:00Z")

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Oh good. 12 is better than howeverthefuckmany they were having.

I honestly didn’t see the business logic to all those PPVs anymore. They get hardly nothing from ‘buys’ lately, so it’s mostly the event income (tickets, merch) and the network these days.

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**Author:** ![Sir\_T-Cups](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Sir\_T-Cups](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sir_T-Cups)\
**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7021 "2018-02-19T17:08:52Z")

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> [@Chimera](#):
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> Oh good. 12 is better than howeverthefuckmany they were having.
> 
> I honestly didn’t see the business logic to all those PPVs anymore. They get hardly nothing from ‘buys’ lately, so it’s mostly the event income (tickets, merch) and the network these days.

Super uneducated guess that also involves literally zero research:

They probably weren’t getting any buys for their PPVs anyway that aren’t the Big 4 (and who gave a shit about survivor series probably anyway). They may have figured getting more people to spend 10 continued bucks a month is worth more than trying to convince a quarter of that to spend 60 bucks every month.

Instead of getting chunks of money once a month they are getting much less money, but sustained over the course of 30 days. It probably equals more. Not to mention they can try and convince advertisers “Hey, you sponsor this PPV and you get this many millions of viewers right now, plus you’ll get views 'til the end of time because this many people view the old PPVs per month…”

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**Post date:** [February 19, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/any-wwe-fans-in-the-audience-part-1/690124/7022 "2018-02-19T17:23:03Z")

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Can you even “buy” the PPVs without subscribing to the Network? And if so, why would you do that? Doesn’t the Network subscription include every PPV?

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